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Re: Chaplain's Chit Chat
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2020, 11:08:42 pm »
You'll probably be seeing me more.  I am liking the atmosphere here.  The members are nice to each other.

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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2020, 09:11:30 am »
What version of the Bible do you use every day?  What version would you recommend if asked to make a recommendation?

There are 7000 know languages of those 7000 the Bible has been translated into 2900 as of 2018.   
There are 531 known versions of the Bible published.  Of those 531 as of 2018, the NIV is the most sold and the KJV is still in the top five depending on where you are at.  The survey in 2018 shows the KJV as number three overall.   An interesting side note was the Evangelicals tend to use the KJV more than other major Christian denominations.

KJV is considered still to be the most eloquent translation. King James had wanted readability and eloquence over truth and accuracy. 

Now to answer my own questions, I used the ESV the most daily.  It was what the seminary I attended used in the main and I am comfortable with it.    If I was buying or gifting someone a Bible it most likely would be giving them the NIV.   The difference if they are a student entering into a religious study course it would be the Oxford Bible with notes, commentaries, and the Apocrypha.  This is by far the best Bible for academic use as it is denomination neutral in the notes. 

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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2020, 09:05:51 pm »
I was sitting in my doctor’s office and picked up a trade magazine that was laying around her office. While waiting for her to show up with test results.  Yes, in her actual office and not an exam room.  There was this article about germs and being human.  It got me thinking about religion.
In the article, the quote that hit me as religious applicable was from Louis Pasteur and a Noble Laureate in medicine recently:  The human body needs to be exposed to germs, virus, and bacteria at some level for the body to be healthy,  As it was an example in as simple terms as I can understand, for the immune system to work, it needs to be exposed to bad things so it can build its immunity to them.   The recent Nobel Laureate explained as your body's immune system is build for war and to fight always.  If it is always supplemented or never fights, the immune systems are weakened.  So, both at different times recommend, fight out a cold now and then, suffer through the mild flu.  Give your immune system something to fight, something to live for.
This got me thinking that religion is much the same.  It is built around faith, belief, and salvation.  But how do we know that we are on the right track unless we encounter sin and despair and other negative life events, temptations?   So, does that mean we need to go out and seek sin, temptations, or the like, No, it doesn’t.  We are exposed to it all the time in small doses.  What I say is it means much like our immune system, our beliefs are a warrior that needs to resist what is thrown at us each day to stay strong and build itself up.  We need to feed our warriors through our prayers, or recognition that we fight temptations every day.   We need to celebrate those wins to help us build up our own immunity to issues of the world around us.  Just my humble opinion and thoughts. 

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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2020, 09:47:26 pm »
I was sitting in my doctor’s office and picked up a trade magazine that was laying around her office. While waiting for her to show up with test results.  Yes, in her actual office and not an exam room.  There was this article about germs and being human.  It got me thinking about religion.
In the article, the quote that hit me as religious applicable was from Louis Pasteur and a Noble Laureate in medicine recently:  The human body needs to be exposed to germs, virus, and bacteria at some level for the body to be healthy,  As it was an example in as simple terms as I can understand, for the immune system to work, it needs to be exposed to bad things so it can build its immunity to them.   The recent Nobel Laureate explained as your body's immune system is build for war and to fight always.  If it is always supplemented or never fights, the immune systems are weakened.  So, both at different times recommend, fight out a cold now and then, suffer through the mild flu.  Give your immune system something to fight, something to live for.
This got me thinking that religion is much the same.  It is built around faith, belief, and salvation.  But how do we know that we are on the right track unless we encounter sin and despair and other negative life events, temptations?   So, does that mean we need to go out and seek sin, temptations, or the like, No, it doesn’t.  We are exposed to it all the time in small doses.  What I say is it means much like our immune system, our beliefs are a warrior that needs to resist what is thrown at us each day to stay strong and build itself up.  We need to feed our warriors through our prayers, or recognition that we fight temptations every day.   We need to celebrate those wins to help us build up our own immunity to issues of the world around us.  Just my humble opinion and thoughts.
I agree Mark. Being aware of satan's devices and deceptions as we encounter them daily is very important.
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2020, 12:48:05 am »
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2020, 12:23:13 am »
A very nice story to think on
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2020, 11:13:08 pm »
I have been reading and studying John Wesley.  What I am struggling with his getting a clear understanding of his philosophy "Grace before Faith".

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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2020, 11:22:54 pm »
I have been reading and studying John Wesley.  What I am struggling with his getting a clear understanding of his philosophy "Grace before Faith".
Does that mean we are saved before we ever believe?
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2020, 11:38:46 pm »
That is what I am struggling with.  In the totality of a cursor reading, it does not seem to be what is meant, but when broken down into his three main points, that is one of his main points of difference from him, Calvin and Luther. 
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2020, 05:29:47 pm »
If all of us are honest as theologians, we must admit we are in the midst of a paradigm shift in the perception, acceptance, and view of the bible, the church, and the Christian religion.  As more of the 20 and 30-year-olds move into leadership positions in religion, they bring a different view that is driving this shift. 

I know many I speak with and when in seminary, spoke with, in that age bracket felt that Christian, as it has been present, is no longer in sync with their faith and belief.  Yet in conversation it was obvious we are speaking about the same things and we have the same beliefs.  It was apparent to me at least that it was in the execution and the understanding.   This shift is forcing all Christian denominations from Catholics to evangelicals to review what they are doing and how they are doing it.

So is religion as we know it facing extinction in its present form, or as my son put it, committing suicide because of its rigid adherence to 500-year-old dogma?  I think we are.  We can present a more current message without sacrificing faith and belief as we believe Jesus was teaching us.    To many of us have strayed from the root messages and teach to further a denominations agenda or a personal agenda that has little to do with faith and belief.  THIS HAS TO CHANGE.  If it does not we will be on the trash heap of history.
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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2020, 02:17:16 pm »
If I said I am a Christian, I am not saying I am a clean living person, I am whispering that I am not, that I was lost, but have been found and forgiven. If I tell you I am a Christian I am not speaking it with pride, I am whispering it, as I know I have to stumble and need Christ in my life as my guide.   I am not trying to be strong if I say I am a Christian, no I am admitting I am weak and need His strength to carry on.  If I told you I am a Christian I am not bragging, no I am stating I have failed, and I have failed many times, and need God to help me clean up my messes.  If I tell you I am a Christian  I am not claiming I perfect, My flaws are far too many and way too visible for that claim,  by God believes I am worth his grace.  When I say I do say I am a Christian  I am not saying it as holier than thou, no I am just a simple everyday sinner who received God’s grace, somehow, and want to share.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2020, 02:31:58 pm »
If I said I am a Christian, I am not saying I am a clean living person, I am whispering that I am not, that I was lost, but have been found and forgiven. If I tell you I am a Christian I am not speaking it with pride, I am whispering it, as I know I have to stumble and need Christ in my life as my guide.   I am not trying to be strong if I say I am a Christian, no I am admitting I am weak and need His strength to carry on.  If I told you I am a Christian I am not bragging, no I am stating I have failed, and I have failed many times, and need God to help me clean up my messes.  If I tell you I am a Christian  I am not claiming I perfect, My flaws are far too many and way too visible for that claim,  by God believes I am worth his grace.  When I say I do say I am a Christian  I am not saying it as holier than thou, no I am just a simple everyday sinner who received God’s grace, somehow, and want to share.
Wow, this is awesome Chaplain Mark !!! Thank you -

 

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