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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2018, 08:52:48 am »
Here are some details from ICR on comets yesterday.  The short life of comets is one of the 'direct indications of a recent creation and cataclysm.'  I have a list of those indications, and will try to post it here soon.

1, comets are quite fragile, constantly losing mass.  They will disappear.  Some will or have broken up like in 1994's line-collision with Jupiter. 
2, they are not old.  Almost all of them are 'short period' lifespans even in scientific literature.  The longest period is apparently about 90K years.
3, the current secular theory's 'cloud' source--the Ort cloud-- is said to be located past Neptune but is not very satisfactory.  What would suddenly kick one of these toward the sun?  There is no explanation.  This cloud is also called the Kuyper belt. 
 
It is the short life of comets that supports a recent creation and/or cataclysm. 
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2018, 08:53:12 am »
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Gen 1:9 . . And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

Shaping the earth's mantle in order to form low spots for the seas and high spots for dry ground was a colossal feat of magma convection and volcanism combined with the titanic forces of tectonic plate subduction.

"He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. You covered it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled; at the sound of your thunder they took to flight. The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place that you appointed for them. You set a boundary that they may not pass, so that they might not again cover the earth." (Ps 104:5-9)

The Earth is home to an amazing volume of water. According to an article in the Sept 2013 issue of National Geographic magazine, the amount contained in swamp water, lakes and rivers, ground water, and oceans, seas, and bays adds up to something like 326.6 million cubic miles; and that's not counting the 5.85 million cubic miles tied up in living organisms, soil moisture, ground ice and permafrost, ice sheets, glaciers, and permanent snow. To put that in perspective: a tower 326.6 million miles high would exceed the Sun's distance better than 3˝ times.

At the ocean's deepest surveyed point-- the Challenger Deep; located in the Mariana Islands group, at the southern end of the Mariana Trench --the water's depth is over 11,000 meters; which is about 6.8 statute miles (36,000 feet). That depth corresponds to the cruising altitude of a Boeing 747. At that altitude, probably about all you're going to see of the airliner without straining your eyes is its contrail.

Africa's Mt Kilimanjaro is the tallest free-standing mountain on earth at 19,341 feet above its land base. If Kilimanjaro were placed in the Challenger Deep, it would have about 16,659 feet of water over its peak. Were the tallest point of the Himalayan range-- Mt Everest --to be submerged in the Challenger Deep, it would have about 7,000 feet of water over its peak.
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2018, 09:21:27 am »
Zuno, I see that you have completely embraced science as fact even when cosmology is not science but pure speculation. I will stick to Biblical Cosmology.
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2018, 09:45:12 am »
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Zuno, I see that you have completely embraced science as fact even when cosmology is not science but pure speculation. I will stick to Biblical Cosmology.

The Bible warns against false science (1Tim 6:20). But not all science is false. For example: science discovered that the Earth's orbit around the Sun isn't a perfect circle, rather, it's an ellipse. That's a proven reality. In contrast: the so-called Big Bang isn't a discovery; it's a theory; viz: thus far the Big Bang is not a proven reality.
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2018, 01:24:32 pm »
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Non-human life for the Earth was created on a different scale than human life. Non-human life was created in swarms, while human life was created just one solo individual.

Gen 2:7 . .The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

That one human life has the distinction of being the only human life that God ever created directly from the dust of the ground. All other human life descends from that one human life, including women, because they were formed with material amputated from that first human life's body.

This means that any and all human life made from women are descendants of that first human life that God created from the dust of the ground; whether virgin conceived or naturally conceived makes no difference.

Acts 17:26 . . He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth

The koiné Greek word for "nation" is ethnos (eth'-nos) which basically refers to races, which for brevity's sake I'll just label Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australoid. There's a variety of sub groupings within those major divisions.

Some Christians are adamantly, and sometimes even angrily, opposed to any and all forms of evolution. But if we don't allow for at least a modicum of somatic mutations and adaptations we'll be hard pressed to provide an adequate explanation for the variety of human life on Earth, including Pygmy, that descended from the one and only human life that God created directly from the dust of the ground.
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2018, 07:28:26 pm »
I don't think a feature like a pygmy size is a matter of slow development; it is a one-off break down in transmission of all the DNA and other cellular communication.  Likewise, albinism. 

Giantism, however, is the opposite case.  It was there because of the type of atmosphere and environment before the destruction of the cataclysm, and can't happen now. 

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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2018, 07:38:26 pm »
I don't think a feature like a pygmy size is a matter of slow development; it is a one-off break down in transmission of all the DNA and other cellular communication.  Likewise, albinism. 

Giantism, however, is the opposite case.  It was there because of the type of atmosphere and environment before the destruction of the cataclysm, and can't happen now.
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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 09:28:43 am »
I cant' find how to start a new thread, so this is as close as I can get.

The subject of giantism validates or ruins early Genesis.  So here is the point of this intro video:  giantism and the evil races of pre-Israel Judea are not two topics. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBfMDJUxSA&index=2&t=0s&list=PLE4B30764B2E348E2

Most interesting was the expression 'these individual rocks are so large, they are not weighed...'  There are hundreds of example of this around the world that make uniformitarianism the infantile fantasy explanation that it is. 

Now, I'll try to get back to the thread's discussion.

Everyone is welcome to show me where the NEW TOPIC button is.  I have been here 5 times and I still don't see anything close.  Just MARK READ. 

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Re: The Cosmos
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2018, 08:47:31 am »
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When people reach what is commonly called the age of reasoning; some of their very first questions are: Why am I here? Where did I come from? What is the meaning of life, and is there a purpose for mine? Is there a reason why I exist?

I think it's very normal (or at least very common) for people to seek a justification for their existence; and without it, they can only conclude that the human experience is futile; which can be roughly defined as serving no useful purpose; for example:

Nobel Prize winner, author of several best-selling books, and recipient of at least a dozen honorary degrees, physicist Steven Weinberg (who views religion as an enemy of science), in his book "The First Three Minutes" wrote: The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless. But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some consolation in the research itself . . . the effort to understand the universe is one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of a farce and gives it some of the grace of tragedy.

What a dismal appraisal. In Mr. Weinberg's opinion, the human experience scarce escapes the categories of farce and tragedy; its quest for knowledge seems the only thing that gives humanity any justification to exist at all. The universe? It's just a meaningless void decorated with fascinating objects --a carnival side show of cosmic curiosities, so to speak.

Wouldn't it be sad if we only lived and died like insects and fungi? I mean, what would be the point of it all? They say a mind is a terrible thing to waste. What real advantage is it to have something so useful as a human mind if it's only going to die and stop working after many years of learning and experience? And what real advantage is it for the mind of the present to make the world a better place for the next generation of minds if the mind of the present doesn't live to see it? That's really no more significant an existence than that of the individuals in a bee hive or a termite colony.

I think people find comfort in perceiving themselves part of a grand scheme instead of walking across the stage of their all-too-brief life as an insignificant speck in a pointless cosmos. Belief that there's someone somewhere above themselves gives people's existence meaning and purpose which, in my opinion, is at least one of the reasons why supreme beings are so popular.

Galileo felt that science and religion are allies rather than enemies-- two different languages telling the same story; a story of symmetry and balance: heaven and hell, positive and negative, weak and strong,  right and left, up and down, night and day, hot and cold, God and Satan. Science and religion are not at odds; no, in reality, science is just simply too young to understand.

Dr. Robert Jastow, founder of the Goddard Institute for space studies at NASA, in his book "God And The Astronomers" says: Strange developments are going on in astronomy. One of these is the discovery that the universe had a beginning. And that means there has to be a Beginner. The scientist has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak, and as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
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