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Why Once Saved Always Saved is Utterly Fallacious
« on: January 26, 2019, 01:01:02 pm »
Why Once Saved Always Saved is Utterly Fallacious



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Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and KJV OSAS Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as having a true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus Christ. We believe that one must be willing to repent from sin to be saved, and that a life following Christ will bear good fruit and will have a repentance from any sin accidentally or ignorantly done in the future. We also seek to reach the lost through evangelism and by telling them that it is impossible to follow God and the forces of evil at the same time; you must pick who this day whom you shall serve. Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 09:07:29 pm »
One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!



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Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and KJV OSAS Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as having a true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus Christ. We believe that one must be willing to repent from sin to be saved, and that a life following Christ will bear good fruit and will have a repentance from any sin accidentally or ignorantly done in the future. We also seek to reach the lost through evangelism and by telling them that it is impossible to follow God and the forces of evil at the same time; you must pick who this day whom you shall serve. Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.


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Jon continues to show his theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses to the Grace of Jesus Christ.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 09:38:48 pm »
One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!



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Jon continues to show his theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses to the Grace of Jesus Christ.

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Yes. I am liking his preaching of repentance because too many people think can hold on to their favorite sins and keep doing them as if they have no choice and can't stop sinning. We are not sinners but saints. That doesn't mean people can watch porn and commit adultery, lie and steal. I like this guy but he is young and confused about a lot of things. That young naive girl's videos I had posted are gone. She deleted her whole channel after tons of negative YouTube comments to her. So I thought this guy was a little better for discussing Works VS Grace. He also hates us dispys but he doesn't crap about it.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 05:26:21 pm »
One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!



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Jon continues to show his theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses to the Grace of Jesus Christ.

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Yes. I am liking his preaching of repentance because too many people think can hold on to their favorite sins and keep doing them as if they have no choice and can't stop sinning. We are not sinners but saints. That doesn't mean people can watch porn and commit adultery, lie and steal. I like this guy but he is young and confused about a lot of things. That young naive girl's videos I had posted are gone. She deleted her whole channel after tons of negative YouTube comments to her. So I thought this guy was a little better for discussing Works VS Grace. He also hates us dispys but he doesn't crap about it.

As unfortunate as it is, there should be no discussion about works vs GRACE. This is a no brainer. Works is a product of Grace.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2019, 08:50:46 pm »
Eternal Security



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8D51HVzBA&list=WL&index=16

The teacher in this video is SPOT ON. He details the the differences between the Law of Moses and the Grace of Jesus Christ.

However He does leave out one point of Calvinism that is one of the major stumbling blocks. OSAS,(Once Saved, Always Saved).

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!

Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved....

 If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict  John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.?

 I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.



 
Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright. 


What do you offer instead?



Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!

Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved....

 If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict  John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

 I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.



 
Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright. 


What do you offer instead?
I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe. He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here for comments and viewing/listening.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2019, 07:47:22 pm »

One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!

Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved....

 If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict  John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

 I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.



 
Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright. 


What do you offer instead?
I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe. He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here for comments and viewing/listening.


will have to listen to the post.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2019, 08:09:06 pm »

One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!

Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved Always Saved....

 If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict  John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

 I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.



 
Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright. 


What do you offer instead?
I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe. He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here for comments and viewing/listening.


will have to listen to the post.

Blade

I listen to it and I diagrees. GOD does NOT make mistakes.. John cannot tell a True Christian from a Christian in name only any better than I can.

John uses the CHurch of Galatian to determine that all who are in it are Christians. Where is there a church that has 100% true Chrisitians other than the church (Body of Christ and Bride to be).

Blade


1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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