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Author Topic: Internal Coherence of Christs Divinity  (Read 3785 times)

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Re: Internal Coherence of Christs Divinity
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2019, 04:44:53 pm »
I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school until 5th grade so the trinity has always been ingrained into my mind. Until I started on forums and really just in the last year, I can't believe how many people to not believe that Jesus is GOD !!! It makes me question my own beliefs and all of the false teachers over on TF out doubts in my mind from reading so much of their garbage. Ahh, the life of a Forum-a-Holic.

My Brother P.J. I tell you this not of my own self, for I am no more than what Isaiah 64 wrote:
Isaiah 64:6  (NKJV)
6 But we are all like an unclean thing,
And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;
We all fade as a leaf,
And our iniquities, like the wind,
Have taken us away.

But from the very words written in the Bible that: If you believe that Jesus was God, and that "GOD" died, then my Brother you better question your belief because your faith, your worship, your idea of God, His son Jesus and everything else in the Bible is worthless. You might as well go back to our Religious roots "Catholics" and kneel down before the holiest of fathers, the self claimed god on earth the Pope and kiss his ring, and ask for forgiveness for leaving his Christian church that he is the head of!

Just remember that according to the Bible: God is Infinite and Eternal. He is not some created "being" who lives in eternity, or travels through infinity and beyond, .. but Infinite and Eternal Is God. A Conscious Spirit/Mind who made in Himself the first of all His creations, which is His Word.
Just like all languages, just as words in books can create stories and even "worlds" like in sci-fi fantasy, God's first "language" He also made into His son, whom He properly called "Word".

John 1:1-14 and Colossians, and all the other Bible places I posted explains all this.
Yes, we are constantly bombarded with some really out of this world, or should I say: "Out of this Heaven and earth" ideologies, like we are in your CF and other Christian Forums.

No one so far has Biblically refuted my Biblical step-by-step picture of
1) who God Is
2) who His son Word is
3) how God created all things "though him"
4) who we, .. created in Gods image are
5) what the word "Christian" was originally used for
6) Why and how Satan used that mock word, and taken both the Jewish writings of the Prophets, and the writings of Christs chosen Apostles and created himself as God the old

Isaiah 14:12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’


and uses it again and again in the "son of God". See what he does: son of the morning / son of God all in mans worship of the sun. And there is no way anyone could deny that the creators of this mock Christian Religion, the Roman Catholics don't worship the sun?

To understand God, you will have to understand who you, if you believe you were created in Gods image, are? If we can't understand who we are, then how will we ever understand who our Creator God is? Satan is literally ripping us apart in tens of thousands of denominational pieces!

Don't try to find God in your body, you know how our Creator told Adam: "From dust thou art, to dust you shall return", but there is something else in that body, once you understand what and whose that is, you will understand God and the rest of God's creation enough to get a picture. With this wisdom you will start piecing together the rest of the Bible.

God bless you, and I pray that your Forums will blossom, and that it will remain a place where all walks of life, with all their crazy religious ideologies come together and learn, and finally see the light, that light of men who came into the world to reveal God, our God and his God to us?


Your friend and brother forever!
Arius/Evidence

It has been rebutted point by point several times. Understanding Christ's divinity is an Amazing eye opening Journey into God's character and love but for those that cannot hear it, it is not salvational.  It is edifying but not salvational.

You base your whole argument on several fallacies starting with the false dilemma that because Jesus was a man he couldn't be God.  You seem to have a huge anti-catholic bias that also creates a guilt by association fallacy that states Catholics are bad, Catholics believe in the divinity of Christ, therefore the divinity if Christ must be a bad doctrine.

Yet in the end, if Jesus were not divine, he could not pay for your sins.  Lucky for us he does it anyway whether we understand the truth about Him or not as long as we rely on adhere to and trust in Him.

It is crazy to believe that the one by whom all things exists isn't God.  If the one by whom all things exsist isn't God then who is?

We tend to view Jesus as only the son of Mary begotten of the Holy spirit but that was just the Word's incarnate phase.  Before that he was the great I am, the cloud that lead Israel through the wilderness. the one that parted the sea so that they might cross on dry land.  After He was finished doing what He had to do on the cross He has resumed His glory and complete divine Godhood.  In doing so the Father gave Him back all of the power he had laid aside to come as a babe in Bethlehem.  so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth! Amen
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