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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #104 on: August 22, 2019, 09:35:55 pm »
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Years ago when I underwent recruit training in the US Army, we were processed in alphabetical order; consequently I was at the back of the line for just about everything except chow because my last name begins with W --very few guys' names began with X, Y, or Z.

If perchance the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 is scheduled to be done in alphabetical order, it would quite possibly be centuries before my turn came to face the music were I among those in line to be called forward.

Let's say, for example, that the pop clock update below represents one hour in court per person. No doubt that's an extremely conservative amount of time allotted to evaluate every little detail in peoples' lives but we're just being hypothetical here so it doesn't matter.

Well; 20,102,280 hours equals 837,595 days of twenty-fours hours each; which adds up to 2,295 years if the great white throne event is scheduled to run non-stop, day and night, 24/7


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 330 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 20,102,280 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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don't want to be a part of that White Throne Judgement...Bad vibes

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2019, 10:28:37 am »
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Something I've been curious about for some time now is why the rich man in Luke's narrative arrived in a place of flame and torment while the poor man was taken to a place of comfort.

Well; one thing I strongly suspect is that at the time of the incident recorded in Luke 16:19-31, Christ was not yet born in the land of Israel; so then, there was not yet a gospel to believe in the New Testament.

Abraham mentions the Old Testament's law and its prophets; which apparently the rich man had not studied, nor taken seriously; consequently he was impious and a complete failure at complying with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Well, if so; then that was a fatal error.

Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law by carrying them out.

The grammatical tense of that curse is present tense rather than future, indicating that the curse is instant, i.e. no delay and no waiting period; ergo: scofflaws are walking dead men; and if they cross over into the next life as dead men, then their fate will be just as solidly sealed as the rich man's fate.

Luke 16:27-31 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.

. . . Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them. The man replied: No, father Abraham; but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent. Abraham said to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.

Abraham was a prophet (Gen 20:7) which means he was an inspired man. As such, he would be privy to information that's normally unavailable to the average rank and file pew warmer. However prophets aren't meant to keep what they hear from God to themselves; they're messengers, e.g. Abraham was a teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)

So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that Abraham passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via inspiration; which, if so, means that our reaction to his remarks should be very different than the rich man's. He brushed aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should hope, are wiser than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's teachings are the voice of God.

I think it's pretty safe to assert that if people won't listen to Abraham, then neither will they listen to Christ.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 351 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 21,381,516 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2019, 09:49:37 pm »
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Something I've been curious about for some time now is why the rich man in Luke's narrative arrived in a place of flame and torment while the poor man was taken to a place of comfort.

Well; one thing I strongly suspect is that at the time of the incident recorded in Luke 16:19-31, Christ was not yet born in the land of Israel; so then, there was not yet a gospel to believe in the New Testament.

Abraham mentions the Old Testament's law and its prophets; which apparently the rich man had not studied, nor taken seriously; consequently he was impious and a complete failure at complying with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Well, if so; then that was a fatal error.

Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law by carrying them out.

The grammatical tense of that curse is present tense rather than future, indicating that the curse is instant, i.e. no delay and no waiting period; ergo: scofflaws are walking dead men; and if they cross over into the next life as dead men, then their fate will be just as solidly sealed as the rich man's fate.

Luke 16:27-31 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.

. . . Abraham replied: They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them. The man replied: No, father Abraham; but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent. Abraham said to him: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.

Abraham was a prophet (Gen 20:7) which means he was an inspired man. As such, he would be privy to information that's normally unavailable to the average rank and file pew warmer. However prophets aren't meant to keep what they hear from God to themselves; they're messengers, e.g. Abraham was a teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)

So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that Abraham passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via inspiration; which, if so, means that our reaction to his remarks should be very different than the rich man's. He brushed aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should hope, are wiser than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's teachings are the voice of God.

I think it's pretty safe to assert that if people won't listen to Abraham, then neither will they listen to Christ.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 351 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 21,381,516 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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I see your still counting lost souls

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #107 on: September 13, 2019, 10:05:54 am »
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Internet forums are a cruel venue. Participants write their academic comments about hell as if we're all members of a Jane Austen book club casually discussing a chapter of Pride And Prejudice.

But the numbers that I post on this thread from time to time are not fiction; they represent real people whose lives have culminated in unspeakable tragedy. I'd much prefer eternity in a looney bin, soling my pants and drooling all over myself like a stroke victim, than be where those unfortunates are in residence now.

Luke 16:27-28 . .The rich man answered: "I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment."

The rich man knew something about hell that apparently many of us online seem unable to fully appreciate. The time to be thinking about the hereafter is while we're in this life, now, before it ends, rather than the next when it will be too late to do anything about it.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 354 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 21,564,264 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2019, 09:06:49 pm »
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Jonah 1:17 . . Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days and three nights

Q: Was Jonah alive in the fish?

A: Yes. (Jonah 2:1)

Q: The whole time?

A: No.

At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place called sheol (Jonah 2:2) which he sited at the bottoms of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well; the bottoms of the mountains aren't located in the tummies of fish, no; they're located down deep in the earth. So, the only way that Jonah could possibly be at the bottoms of the mountains while in the belly of a fish at the same time was for the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.

Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

Jonah 2:6 . .To the bottoms of the mountains I went down. As for the earth, its bars were upon me for time indefinite. But out of the pit you proceeded to bring up my life, O Jehovah my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse is the very same word for pit in Ps 16:8-10; which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction. In other words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's resurrection. (There's reason to believe that Jonah was already dead from drowning in the sea's depths before the fish showed up to swallow him.)

Christ underwent the very same afterlife experience as Jonah's. The only real difference between the two was that Christ's grave was in a rock while Jonah's grave was in a fish.

The key points in their experiences are that both were dead, both went to the bottoms of the mountains while their corpse reposed in a grave, and both were resurrected within three days and three nights. (Matt 12:40)

Q: What does the story of Jonah have to do with hell?

A: It's widely believed that when people die they cease to exist. Well; were that belief a fact; then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross. As a result: he would not have been resurrected back to life, instead, Jesus would've been created back to life. Jonah's experience proves that Jesus continued to exist out of body when he pass away; and if he and Jonah did, then everyone else does too.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 6 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 365,496 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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You comments are wild to say the least.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2019, 08:07:02 am »
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Luke 16:27-28 . .The rich man answered: "I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment."

Luke 16:29 . .But Abraham said: "They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them"

Luke 16:30 . . But he said: "No, Father Abraham"

The Bible says that Abraham himself was a prophet (Gen 20:7). Had the rich man believed the book of Genesis he would've listened to Abraham instead of arguing with him.

What can be supposed ever happened to the five brothers? Well; they believed neither Moses nor the Prophets; so I think it's safe to assume the worst: their fate was the same as the brother who went before them.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 365 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 22,234,340 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #110 on: September 29, 2019, 09:27:31 am »
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At least three Greek words are translated "love" in the New Testament.

There's agape (ag-ah'-pay) which is love as a noun.

There's agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o) which is love as an expression.

And there's phileo (fil-eh'-o) which is love as an emotion.

Just about everybody practices agapao in one form or another. It's an impersonal kind of friendliness exemplified by things like courtesy, sympathy, kindness, tolerance, charity, generosity, and civility.

It's not required to like the people to whom we extend agapao. Even holding doors open for total strangers counts as agapao because it's more an act of the will than of the heart; for example John 3:16.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The love that God feels for His friends is different than John 3:16. It's phileo; for example John 16:27

"The Father Himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came forth from the Father."

Phileo is a personal love; it's tender, sentimental, and close to home; consisting of things like bonding, fondness and affection. God doesn't feel phileo for just anybody; only for people close to his heart.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 370 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 22,538,920 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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