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Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2019, 10:01:25 pm »
JW Elders Treatment of Preacher at Watchtower Convention 2018

Jehovah's Witness Convention, San Diego, 2018. Unedited clip of JW Elders practicing this years motto, "Be Courageous".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ex0jwDDTzU

people still go there even though they have been classified a CULT>

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JWs don't believe that they are a cult. There are some who still go there because they don't want to be shunned by their family and friends and may realize that something isn't right with that organization but they feel trapped. Many of them who do leave become atheists. Some of them commit suicide because of being shunned. Others who leave become activists against that organization and try to expose it to JWs and the public.

Yes, I have first hand experience with them.....I had a patient that needed blood to live and she could not take it for they would throw her out of the church...She ask me what my opinion was and I told her the truth......She took the blood and they shunned her out of the Church....It took some time but I think she finally joined a different church where there was support and love.  After her stay in the Hospital, I lost contact with her and still do not know what happened to her...

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Yes, the blood policy is a big issue with JWs. I think they have revised that now somewhat for blood fractions that are acceptable. I'm not sure exactly what that means for JWs. I don't really know what blood fractions are.

Have you ever taken blood.....It can come from anyone, any color...I think this is their problem for the main part.
I've had surgery five times. Yes, I have taken blood.

I've never thought about that being the reason why they have that blood policy. You might be right. They consider taking blood as eating blood even though it's intravenously. They also have a policy against organ transplants.

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Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2019, 10:22:36 am »
I've learned something new about the Watchtower organization called Theocratic Warfare.  Jehovah's Witnesses are told that they are in "theocratic warfare" or "spiritual warfare" with the world. This warfare includes the strategy that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's interests.

"From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain circumstance would justify making an exception to the Christianís obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the following is given: Godís Word commands: ďSpeak truth each of you with his neighbor.Ē ...
There is one exception, however, that the Christian must ever bear in mind. As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with Godís foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of Godís cause, it is proper to hide the truth from Godís enemies...Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351,352 Questions From Readers

"We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive. ... As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies." Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351-352:


Anyone who is not a JW is considered to be a foe, worldly, so JWs are told that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's interests. Anything that reflects badly on the organization is lied about and covered up. Apparently the Governing Body must consider all JWs apart from themselves of course to be foes because they aren't told the truth.
 
"We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive." "We" as in the Governing Body, the ones at the top. The ones below them are not entitled to know so the Governing Body can lie and be evasive to them and feel justified in doing so. A need to know basis. Where have I heard that before.

This is what Theocratic Warfare is according to the Governing Body.


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Re: Experiencing Jehovah's Witnesses
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2019, 08:15:31 pm »
I've learned something new about the Watchtower organization called Theocratic Warfare.  Jehovah's Witnesses are told that they are in "theocratic warfare" or "spiritual warfare" with the world. This warfare includes the strategy that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's interests.

"From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain circumstance would justify making an exception to the Christianís obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the following is given: Godís Word commands: ďSpeak truth each of you with his neighbor.Ē ...
There is one exception, however, that the Christian must ever bear in mind. As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with Godís foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of Godís cause, it is proper to hide the truth from Godís enemies...Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351,352 Questions From Readers

"We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive. ... As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies." Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351-352:


Anyone who is not a JW is considered to be a foe, worldly, so JWs are told that being misleading, or even lying, is acceptable in situations where such dishonesty furthers the organization's interests. Anything that reflects badly on the organization is lied about and covered up. Apparently the Governing Body must consider all JWs apart from themselves of course to be foes because they aren't told the truth.
 
"We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive." "We" as in the Governing Body, the ones at the top. The ones below them are not entitled to know so the Governing Body can lie and be evasive to them and feel justified in doing so. A need to know basis. Where have I heard that before.

This is what Theocratic Warfare is according to the Governing Body.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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