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Re: DEREK PRINCE MINISTRIES
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2020, 11:26:37 pm »
It is always rewarding to have patience to listen to Derek Prince ... powerful ministry.
Charismatic Preaching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=662&v=MQGoSgYgzFw&feature=emb_logo

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You can't just lump people together like that. Derek Prince is not John Hagee or Joel Osteen or anybody else.


There are excellent Charismatic churches and bad charismatic churches just like there are excellent Calvinist churches and piss poor ones. And there have been crooks in all denominations.


I disagree with some of what Derek Prince preached and agree with an awful lot.


I prefer [love above all] his namesake Joseph Prince.


Sheesh, there has never been a PERFECT preacher since Paul ... what do you want?

Billy, someone called me a hardliner the other day. Yes, I guess I am, I try very hard to follow the exact word of GOD....

Anyone who strays away from the word of GOD, Deletes, adds to it, changes, etc. are damned. This includes all the charismatic churches...In fact, Billy after the Harpozo happens, these churches will most likely not need to replace their missing pastors. They will not be missing.

Not everybody will be in heaven....Most will be in the LAKE of FIRE! FOREVER

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Well you won't mind if I take an equally hard line and tell you you are talking rubbish.


The Calvinists add an awful lot to scripture and subtract an awful lot. They will not on account of poor bible knowledge and bad teaching be thrown into hell ... not if they are saved.


What you say actually goes against your own Calvinist teaching.


Salvation depends upon faith ... not knowledge.

Most Calvinist I know do not change, delete, add , etc the word of GOD...The Prosperity/charismatic preachers doe not do that.

Yes Salvation is by Faith and Faith alone but ones works shows me their faith including yours Billy.

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Re: DEREK PRINCE MINISTRIES
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2020, 04:46:52 am »
It is always rewarding to have patience to listen to Derek Prince ... powerful ministry.
Charismatic Preaching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=662&v=MQGoSgYgzFw&feature=emb_logo

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You can't just lump people together like that. Derek Prince is not John Hagee or Joel Osteen or anybody else.


There are excellent Charismatic churches and bad charismatic churches just like there are excellent Calvinist churches and piss poor ones. And there have been crooks in all denominations.


I disagree with some of what Derek Prince preached and agree with an awful lot.


I prefer [love above all] his namesake Joseph Prince.


Sheesh, there has never been a PERFECT preacher since Paul ... what do you want?

Billy, someone called me a hardliner the other day. Yes, I guess I am, I try very hard to follow the exact word of GOD....

Anyone who strays away from the word of GOD, Deletes, adds to it, changes, etc. are damned. This includes all the charismatic churches...In fact, Billy after the Harpozo happens, these churches will most likely not need to replace their missing pastors. They will not be missing.

Not everybody will be in heaven....Most will be in the LAKE of FIRE! FOREVER

Blade


Well you won't mind if I take an equally hard line and tell you you are talking rubbish.


The Calvinists add an awful lot to scripture and subtract an awful lot. They will not on account of poor bible knowledge and bad teaching be thrown into hell ... not if they are saved.


What you say actually goes against your own Calvinist teaching.


Salvation depends upon faith ... not knowledge.

Most Calvinist I know do not change, delete, add , etc the word of GOD...The Prosperity/charismatic preachers doe not do that.

Yes Salvation is by Faith and Faith alone but ones works shows me their faith including yours Billy.

Blade
You know nothing about me Blade.


I was very sorry to learn the demise of Ask Mr Religion last year. Over the years I had become good online friends with Patrick and knew quite a bit about his sorrows. Indeed I have become friends with many Calvinist posters and have shared a great deal of fellowship in Calvinist or reformed assemblies.


I consider C.H.Spurgeon to be my life mentor, his writings and sermons of which I have consumed many volumes.


But I have a quarrel with them, and I have a quarrel with YOU when make blanket charges against Pentecostalism.


One grievance I have and I have Patrick in mind here, is that Calvinists KNOW that God is at work among the Pentecostalist churches [I include Charismatic] just as they acknowledge that God has mightily used men like Billy Graham.


But rather than rolling their sleeves up and getting involved they fold their arms and stand on the sidelines and carp and criticise and throw mud.


If they approached the matter spiritually they would realise that they have the ANSWER to many of the ills and extravagances that occur in the Charismatic movement.


They have the answer in their theology.


Because the ills and extravagances come from Arminian freewill doctrine. And this includes the prosperity doctrines.


God wants YOU to prosper, there's nothing wrong with that "Beloved I willest ABOVE ALL THINGS that thou mayest PROSPER and be in health even as thy soul prospereth"


There is nothing wrong with the doctrine, the problem arises in the MANNER in which they preach this prosperity is to be brought about. They say you must first give.


That is the typical Arminian response, the freewill response. The works based salvation. If they would understand the Grace doctrines the whole matter could be cleaned up.


But the Calvinists have fled the field they have deserted the cause and allowed the crooks to move in.


Well God will sort the crooks out in His own good time and He will clean up the Charismatics but the Calvinists because they fled the field in the day of battle and stood aside and threw mud will continue to decline and wither on the vine as they are doing.


The Calvinists add the doctrine of double predestination to the bible, and they subtract [or limited as they politely say] the atonement. That's why they are stymied.


And if they don't like the way Pentecostals worship I must tell you I don't like the way most Calvinist churches worship.   
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Re: DEREK PRINCE MINISTRIES
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2020, 04:28:25 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mISXljfMVw


BEWARE! your SOUL could be at jeopardy) for Charismatic Preaching= False Preaching. This video and others of this preacher on this thread is exactly that- False Preaching.

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Re: DEREK PRINCE MINISTRIES
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2020, 05:00:44 pm »
I will stop posting his stuff here thanks for the warning Bladerunner
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