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Title: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 19, 2020, 10:19:13 am
The End Purpose Of Marriage | Derek Prince Marriage Course


All the teaching about marriage and home in the Bible is based on two things:
1. The eternal relationships in the Godhead between the Father and the Son.
2. The purposes of God in creation.'

What is the purpose of marriage? The purpose is unity. Bible teacher Derek Prince phrases 'leave, then cleave', when reading Genesis 2:24. You have to leave your family and cleave to your wife/husband. Often there's a loyalty to the parents which stand in the way for a healthy relationship between husband and wife.

Contrary to our present culture, Derek Prince tells us sharply: 'Marriage isn't an experiment. It's a commitment.' You can't make an experiment of commitment. This commitment releases the grace that you need. If you don't make the commitment you can't claim the grace. There's no faith if you don't commit. And without faith it's impossible to please God. Committing to your wife/husband is a risk, a step of faith.


5 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7s-kLU9V-I&t=165s
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 19, 2020, 10:19:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS4bzICUnv0
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 19, 2020, 10:22:53 am
Full Sermon - Husbands & Wives | Derek Prince



Bible teacher Derek Prince explains the Biblical covenants and tells us why marriage is a covenant.
Since it's a covenant, Derek points out that adultery is more serious than fornication—it is a broken covenant. The marriage covenant is based on a life laid down (Ps. 50:5) and only valid through death (Heb. 9:16–17).

The husband as well as the wife enter through the sacrifice of Jesus and each lays down his/her life. Each expresses life through the mate—“What will I give?”—not “get”. The ultimate purpose is unity, according to Derek. Each mate makes a commitment (marriage is not an experiment). This commitment releases grace. Eventually, the husband’s success is seen in his wife—the wife’s success is seen in her husband (1Cor. 11:7; Prov. 31:23).

Derek goes on explaining the husband’s responsibilities in marriage:
1. Love (Eph. 5:25)
2. Be head (1 Cor. 11:3)
3. Provide (1 Tim. 5:8 )
4. Wash with God’s Word (Eph. 5:26)
5. Nourish and cherish (Eph. 5:29)

After that he explains the wife’s responsibilities in marriage:
1. Helper (Gen. 2:18)
2. To submit (Eph. 5:22)
3. To support/uphold
4. To encourage
5. Intercede

Derek concludes by taking the home (or the family) as a model of the Church, that is:
1. Husband—pastor/shepherd (1 Tim. 3:4–5)
2. Wife—deacon/helper
3. Children—flock/congregation (Job 21:11)

In addition, husband & wife have a prophetic responsibility: to portray the relationship between Christ and His Church (Eph. 5:22–23, 32). It's God’s original purpose that:
1. Man and woman together to exercise dominion on behalf of God (Gen. 1:27–28)
2. Two harmonizing in prayer are irresistible (Matt. 18:18–20)
3. Two can walk together only in agreement (Amos 3:3)


Recorded in May 1989, Auckland, New Zealand


1 hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTocDKTxhUk
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 19, 2020, 10:41:09 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zyB854kDYc
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 20, 2020, 09:34:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVsyLbo88fU
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 23, 2020, 08:39:08 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-jyrDY56zE
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Bladerunner on June 23, 2020, 09:11:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-jyrDY56zE

been married 50+ years and my wife is far above the price of rubies.

Blade
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 27, 2020, 08:28:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzWcpbE7cc
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Bladerunner on June 28, 2020, 04:05:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzWcpbE7cc


only one word do I have for this speaker...

AMEN!


Blade
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 29, 2020, 10:40:23 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCkNDD1NkS4
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on July 01, 2020, 09:45:09 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBKZuXK3Qjs
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on August 07, 2020, 07:56:15 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzheHmTfFVQ
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on August 12, 2020, 10:08:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGU3ERbvlNQ
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Bladerunner on August 12, 2020, 10:15:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGU3ERbvlNQ

I thank the Lord each and many times in between for the blessing He has shed on my family and this land we are on. I heard something tonight in my researches that bring meaning to faith.

If you are worrying about what is happening, what is going to happen then you using practical atheism simply because you don't believe that GOD can deliver on His promises.

I also pray each day that if it be my last day, to please take my soul into His loving arms.

Don't worrying, He is in control.


Blade
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on September 21, 2020, 09:07:15 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf-VBTPZMGE
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on October 22, 2020, 06:52:13 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hT8MFCmalc
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on October 25, 2020, 05:59:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oor5VesnP38
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on April 03, 2021, 11:48:46 pm
Reposted at PJ hint

So I had this chance to apply a theory I had wanted to try.  I normally do not do counseling for married couples.  It is just not my area of expertise.   A couple that I have known for about 6 years asked me if I had any suggestions on how they can get their marriage back on track or at least start the communications to do that.   They went into details on what they felt were issues that they felt were causing their problems.   It struck me that there was something under this that they were suppressing.

So here was my solution for them to try.

Many of the local Churches have meditation Labyrinths located on their property.  These are used for many things.  I, myself use them to help me think through issues or to recenter.  When I am writing I use them to help fight through blocks.  So I asked them if they had ever walked a Labyrinth before.  Neither had.  So I told them this is what I wanted them to do.  Go to one of the bigger ones.  I gave them the locations.   Once they get there to get to the starting point.  Face each other, say a prayer together while facing each other and looking into each other eyes.  Then tell each other they love them.  THen ladies first as they start walking the maze patterned, she states something that she has an issue with.  He can not say a word, can not argue or rebut.   Then it's his turn.  The same applies to her.  No rebuttal, just each stating the issues all the way into the center circle.  They have to get it all out the negative.  I suggested they adjust the pace so everything is out of their system by the time they get to the center.   

Once in the center, they were to face each other and hold hands again.  They were to thank each other for the honesty, say they love each other again, then say the same prayer from the start.  Then start the journey out of the maze pattern.  This time though to tell each other all the good things, good memories, and anything positive.  He getting to start this time.   Once they got done again hold hands facing each other, say they love each other then end with the Lord's prayer.

I told them to do all this early in the morning.   Once done go someplace and have a nice breakfast together.  They can not bring up anything said at the maze or discussion in any fashion what was said.  Talk about anything else.   In fact not to say a word on it until the evening so both of them have time to quietly contemplate what was said by the other and reflect on it.   Only then should they have a discussion.

I was afraid this might not work but it was at least a shot at a starting point.

That was ten days ago.  They told me today Good Friday they had done it this morning and followed through and they feel the results were "Fantastic" as they both feel relief and understanding and feel they can now work through things.  The best thing they said this separate from each other in separate text messages.   I hope it does work.
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Bladerunner on April 06, 2021, 10:43:14 pm
Reposted at PJ hint

So I had this chance to apply a theory I had wanted to try.  I normally do not do counseling for married couples.  It is just not my area of expertise.   A couple that I have known for about 6 years asked me if I had any suggestions on how they can get their marriage back on track or at least start the communications to do that.   They went into details on what they felt were issues that they felt were causing their problems.   It struck me that there was something under this that they were suppressing.

So here was my solution for them to try.

Many of the local Churches have meditation Labyrinths located on their property.  These are used for many things.  I, myself use them to help me think through issues or to recenter.  When I am writing I use them to help fight through blocks.  So I asked them if they had ever walked a Labyrinth before.  Neither had.  So I told them this is what I wanted them to do.  Go to one of the bigger ones.  I gave them the locations.   Once they get there to get to the starting point.  Face each other, say a prayer together while facing each other and looking into each other eyes.  Then tell each other they love them.  THen ladies first as they start walking the maze patterned, she states something that she has an issue with.  He can not say a word, can not argue or rebut.   Then it's his turn.  The same applies to her.  No rebuttal, just each stating the issues all the way into the center circle.  They have to get it all out the negative.  I suggested they adjust the pace so everything is out of their system by the time they get to the center.   

Once in the center, they were to face each other and hold hands again.  They were to thank each other for the honesty, say they love each other again, then say the same prayer from the start.  Then start the journey out of the maze pattern.  This time though to tell each other all the good things, good memories, and anything positive.  He getting to start this time.   Once they got done again hold hands facing each other, say they love each other then end with the Lord's prayer.

I told them to do all this early in the morning.   Once done go someplace and have a nice breakfast together.  They can not bring up anything said at the maze or discussion in any fashion what was said.  Talk about anything else.   In fact not to say a word on it until the evening so both of them have time to quietly contemplate what was said by the other and reflect on it.   Only then should they have a discussion.

I was afraid this might not work but it was at least a shot at a starting point.

That was ten days ago.  They told me today Good Friday they had done it this morning and followed through and they feel the results were "Fantastic" as they both feel relief and understanding and feel they can now work through things.  The best thing they said this separate from each other in separate text messages.   I hope it does work.
sounds like if may just work..Pray it does.

Blade
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on April 07, 2021, 12:48:23 pm
I do to and yes they are in my prayers.  They hit a rough patch and are search for a way through it.  Between God, prayers, and hopefully better ways to talk they will make it.
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Bladerunner on April 07, 2021, 08:30:47 pm
I do to and yes they are in my prayers.  They hit a rough patch and are search for a way through it.  Between God, prayers, and hopefully better ways to talk they will make it.

From experience, most all couples that are bonded by GOD seem to have hard places to get past...with a little help from friends and experts like you, they will find again the glue that put them together in the first place.

Blade
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on April 07, 2021, 08:35:46 pm
They for sure get my prayers.  Far from an expert, just experienced is about the best I can do.  Thank you though.
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on May 11, 2021, 04:29:48 pm
Build A Marriage And A Home That Glorifies God


22 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeFkgFPNZjU
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on June 26, 2021, 02:43:54 pm
I really like this one.  Thank you PJ for posting.
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: Lori Bolinger on June 27, 2021, 09:57:00 am
Mark, one of the Love studies I did was marriage...I focused on the roles of husbands and wives, you know, how the husband is to love the wife as Christ loved the church, and how the wife/church should respond.  Anyway, I took Isaiah 53, how Christ loved the church and laid it aside Proverbs 21, the wife of noble character...very powerful study.  I don't know, I may have offered that up already but it was an amazing study to be sure.  I recommend it
Title: Re: Marriage & Family
Post by: patrick jane on June 29, 2021, 06:24:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MccJLQGYyEI