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Title: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on February 11, 2020, 06:50:59 am
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Post by: patrick jane on February 16, 2020, 07:00:57 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on February 16, 2020, 07:05:27 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on February 17, 2020, 08:59:34 am
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Post by: patrick jane on February 24, 2020, 06:42:34 am
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Title: Re: CORONA VIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on February 25, 2020, 11:27:37 am
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Title: Re: CORONA VIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on February 25, 2020, 08:01:15 pm
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There are many that say this pale horse is riding...I do not believe so..WHY... In Rev 4, the Church (body of Christ) is in heaven and the seals are not yet opened as the Pale horse and it's two riders are the fourth and last horse in the seven Seals.

Blade
Title: Re: CORONA VIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on February 26, 2020, 11:09:26 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on February 27, 2020, 03:15:03 am
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Title: Re: CORONA VIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on February 28, 2020, 06:35:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9EWhnFu2Xs&list=WL&index=2&t=23s

no, not really, only routine tribulations.
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Firestarter on March 01, 2020, 11:12:36 am
Last week was the worst week for the Dow Jones since 2008.
Many claim because of the coronavirus “outbreak”.


I’m no good at numerology, but breaking down the name for COVID-19 looks like some genuine “conspiracy” to me...

“Ovid” is the English name for the Latin name “Ovidius” (a famous Roman poet).
“Ovidius” was derived from “ovis”, which means “sheep”.

“C” could refer to 3, representing the trinity of Anu-Enki-Enlil (or maybe C-OVID is 3 sheep)…

If we add up the letters COVID – 3+15+22+9+4 – we get: 54, or 3 * 18; 18 is the number of the Beast 666 (54 = 666 666 666).

If we add up the letters OVID – 15+22+9+4 – we get: 51, or 3 * 17.
The Egyptian God Osiris died/disappeared on the 17th day of the month Athyr and was resurrected on the 19th day of Athyr (COVID-19)…


According to the World Health Organization, every year millions of people around the world get ill from the ordinary flu, causing several hundred thousand deaths (mostly old people).
For the coronavirus deaths in this “outbreak”, 3,000 deaths have been reported...

The patients get treated with toxic antiviral drugs, which can cause disease and death. Of course, when they die, they will be called “deaths from the epidemic”.

The other “solution” is of course a vaccine that couldn’t possibly prevent this “new”, mutated strain of the coronavirus: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/how-to-stage-a-fake-epidemic-and-brainwash-billions-of-people/


According to “leading coronavirus expert” Ralph Baric:
Quote
Coronaviruses in general have a striking age-related disease [pattern]. So the older you are, the more likely you’re going to get severe disease.
Isn’t it a general rule that elderly people have a much higher probability of dying from “natural causes” than the young? If they die, how can anybody know that it coincidentally was because of this “new” coronavirus...

The largest COVID-19 study, describes more than 44,000 “confirmed cases” from China.

Less than 1% (416) were children younger than 10. None of them died.
A little more than 1% (549) were children 9 to 19. One of them died.
By contrast, a reported 20% of the roughly 1,400 people of 80 and older who contracted COVID-19 died.

According to “coronavirus expert” Malik Peiris:
Quote
It’s not that they’re not getting infection. They’re not getting disease. They’re not getting sick.
With the moral of the story that we should be terrified of (Chinese) children without symptoms that could infect us: https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-kids-what-role-transmission/
(http://archive.is/uZq9f)


In a bizarre twist, an airline company reported that “A passenger on the inbound flight [to Wuhan] felt uncomfortable, had trouble breathing, and showed unstable vital signs”.
Two hours later, the Wuhan Emergency Centre reported that the (incoming) patient suffered from a novel coronavirus infection: https://www.jenniferzengblog.com/home/2020/2/20/wuhan-customs-holds-30-days-countdown-to-military-games-and-emergency-response-drill-at-ports-30


(https://3169.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fk65MG%2F831b207051a2e8d4b169cf2af0a5fd54893c862f.jpg&hash=c2adbca1becd1ab33856254c650c44100f477449)

In The Simpsons episode “The fool monty”, TV-executives stage the designer “house cat flu” virus crisis to get more people to watch TV, November 2010.
They provide a vaccine to the gullible public: https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/House_Cat_Flu
https://youtu.be/RVVOS_Y-Jf0


On 2 February 2020, 3,711 passengers and crew on the Diamond Princess cruise ship were quarantined in Japan after a passenger who exited in Hong Kong tested positive for the coronavirus.
Since the quarantine was started, 705 passengers were declared positive for COVID-19.

Diamond Princess is a British-registered cruise ship owned by Carnival Corporation & plc that was founded by Ted Arison (who had co-founded Norwegian Cruise Lines in 1966 with Knut Kloster) in 1972. Its current Chairman is Ted’s son, Micky Arison.
See Ted’s widow Lin Arison with President Barack Obama, receiving the 2012 National Medal of Arts.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Lin_Arison_received_the_National_Medal_of_Arts.jpg)

In 2002, Carnival was ordered to pay $18 million in fines after pleading guilty to illegally dumping oil-contaminated bilge water into the sea.

Since 2017, Carnival Corporation has been on probation, after again deliberately "illegally dumping oil into the ocean from its Princess Cruises ships and lying about the scheme" and fined another $40 million.

In April 2019, Carnival Corporation was accused of violating probation rules after 800 incidents from April 2017 to April 2018. In June 2019, Carnival Corp. made a deal with federal prosecutors to pay $20 million in fines. Carnival’s CEO Arnold Donald promised to “fix” the shortcomings.
In June 2019, Carnival Corporation and its Princess subsidiary also agreed to pay a $20 million penalty for other environmental violations, including dumping plastic waste into the ocean.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, 3 Carnival cruise ships were chartered by the US government for 6 months for $236 million as temporary housing.
The contract was criticised, because the ships weren’t fully utilised, and Carnival received more than it would have earned by using the ships in their normal rotation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Cruise_Line


For more on the coronavirus outbreak hysteria: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1673
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on March 02, 2020, 03:32:39 pm
Last week was the worst week for the Dow Jones since 2008.
Many claim because of the coronavirus “outbreak”.


I’m no good at numerology, but breaking down the name for COVID-19 looks like some genuine “conspiracy” to me...

“Ovid” is the English name for the Latin name “Ovidius” (a famous Roman poet).
“Ovidius” was derived from “ovis”, which means “sheep”.

“C” could refer to 3, representing the trinity of Anu-Enki-Enlil (or maybe C-OVID is 3 sheep)…

If we add up the letters COVID – 3+15+22+9+4 – we get: 54, or 3 * 18; 18 is the number of the Beast 666 (54 = 666 666 666).

If we add up the letters OVID – 15+22+9+4 – we get: 51, or 3 * 17.
The Egyptian God Osiris died/disappeared on the 17th day of the month Athyr and was resurrected on the 19th day of Athyr (COVID-19)…


According to the World Health Organization, every year millions of people around the world get ill from the ordinary flu, causing several hundred thousand deaths (mostly old people).
For the coronavirus deaths in this “outbreak”, 3,000 deaths have been reported...

The patients get treated with toxic antiviral drugs, which can cause disease and death. Of course, when they die, they will be called “deaths from the epidemic”.

The other “solution” is of course a vaccine that couldn’t possibly prevent this “new”, mutated strain of the coronavirus: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/how-to-stage-a-fake-epidemic-and-brainwash-billions-of-people/


According to “leading coronavirus expert” Ralph Baric:
Quote
Coronaviruses in general have a striking age-related disease [pattern]. So the older you are, the more likely you’re going to get severe disease.
Isn’t it a general rule that elderly people have a much higher probability of dying from “natural causes” than the young? If they die, how can anybody know that it coincidentally was because of this “new” coronavirus...

The largest COVID-19 study, describes more than 44,000 “confirmed cases” from China.

Less than 1% (416) were children younger than 10. None of them died.
A little more than 1% (549) were children 9 to 19. One of them died.
By contrast, a reported 20% of the roughly 1,400 people of 80 and older who contracted COVID-19 died.

According to “coronavirus expert” Malik Peiris:
Quote
It’s not that they’re not getting infection. They’re not getting disease. They’re not getting sick.
With the moral of the story that we should be terrified of (Chinese) children without symptoms that could infect us: https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-kids-what-role-transmission/
(http://archive.is/uZq9f)


In a bizarre twist, an airline company reported that “A passenger on the inbound flight [to Wuhan] felt uncomfortable, had trouble breathing, and showed unstable vital signs”.
Two hours later, the Wuhan Emergency Centre reported that the (incoming) patient suffered from a novel coronavirus infection: https://www.jenniferzengblog.com/home/2020/2/20/wuhan-customs-holds-30-days-countdown-to-military-games-and-emergency-response-drill-at-ports-30


(https://3169.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2Fk65MG%2F831b207051a2e8d4b169cf2af0a5fd54893c862f.jpg&hash=c2adbca1becd1ab33856254c650c44100f477449)

In The Simpsons episode “The fool monty”, TV-executives stage the designer “house cat flu” virus crisis to get more people to watch TV, November 2010.
They provide a vaccine to the gullible public: https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/House_Cat_Flu
https://youtu.be/RVVOS_Y-Jf0


On 2 February 2020, 3,711 passengers and crew on the Diamond Princess cruise ship were quarantined in Japan after a passenger who exited in Hong Kong tested positive for the coronavirus.
Since the quarantine was started, 705 passengers were declared positive for COVID-19.

Diamond Princess is a British-registered cruise ship owned by Carnival Corporation & plc that was founded by Ted Arison (who had co-founded Norwegian Cruise Lines in 1966 with Knut Kloster) in 1972. Its current Chairman is Ted’s son, Micky Arison.
See Ted’s widow Lin Arison with President Barack Obama, receiving the 2012 National Medal of Arts.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Lin_Arison_received_the_National_Medal_of_Arts.jpg)

In 2002, Carnival was ordered to pay $18 million in fines after pleading guilty to illegally dumping oil-contaminated bilge water into the sea.

Since 2017, Carnival Corporation has been on probation, after again deliberately "illegally dumping oil into the ocean from its Princess Cruises ships and lying about the scheme" and fined another $40 million.

In April 2019, Carnival Corporation was accused of violating probation rules after 800 incidents from April 2017 to April 2018. In June 2019, Carnival Corp. made a deal with federal prosecutors to pay $20 million in fines. Carnival’s CEO Arnold Donald promised to “fix” the shortcomings.
In June 2019, Carnival Corporation and its Princess subsidiary also agreed to pay a $20 million penalty for other environmental violations, including dumping plastic waste into the ocean.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, 3 Carnival cruise ships were chartered by the US government for 6 months for $236 million as temporary housing.
The contract was criticised, because the ships weren’t fully utilised, and Carnival received more than it would have earned by using the ships in their normal rotation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Cruise_Line


For more on the coronavirus outbreak hysteria: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1673

Again, the tribulations and Daniel's 70th week has not started. This is regular tribulations each of us must bare during our time on this earth,

Blade
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Firestarter on March 03, 2020, 09:12:33 am
Dr. Drew Pinsky tells “the press is overreacting” on the coronavirus “outbreak”, starting 1:16.
https://youtu.be/39A7Tr-H29E
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on March 03, 2020, 09:34:39 pm
Dr. Drew Pinsky tells “the press is overreacting” on the coronavirus “outbreak”, starting 1:16.
https://youtu.be/39A7Tr-H29E

I agree with Him....It is a little overblown....

Blade
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 03, 2020, 11:05:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEi-q9NK0-8
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Mr E on March 09, 2020, 07:03:47 pm
It's doing exactly what it was meant to do. 

Are you unsettled?  The world is.  Look at Italy.  You will never find a more fearful group of people, who lay their hearts upon the stones of the Vatican.

But look at the markets.  On the day I first posted about the Wuhanvirus I took money out and invested instead in an Israeli medical company.  Did you?

You should have.  And if you haven't taken your money out already, don't.  The markets are being manipulated.  The will rise and fall like the sea on a stormy day and for a time those who trade on the sea will get rich and will be mixing doubles and toasting their success.  It won't last.

They can't see what is coming.

Wuhan will fade like all the news that came before it, but it will be back to ring in the New Year.

Wait and see.  And it will strike fear into every man who bears not the seal.
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 09, 2020, 08:11:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJgvqoveKU
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Firestarter on March 11, 2020, 11:22:17 am
As the tests to “confirm” that illness is caused by COVID-19 are dubious to say the least, all numbers on cases and deaths are no more than wild guesses.
I still haven’t seen a single scientific analysis that shows that according to Koch’s postulates the “new” coronavirus has killed any patient...


Today there are an estimated 121,747 COVID-19 cases, of which more than 50% “recovered”, and 4,389 deaths worldwide.

That the deaths can’t be caused by the coronavirus becomes readily apparent, from the figures that show that there is a huge difference in death rate between various countries.

China 80,790 cases – 3158 deaths (3.9% death rate)
Italy 10,149 cases – 631 deaths (6.2%)
US 1016 cases – 31 deaths (3.1%)

Sweden 477 cases – no deaths (0%)
Singapore 178 cases – no deaths (0%)
Malaysia 149 cases – no deaths (0%)
Iraq 71 cases – 7 deaths (9.9% death rate): https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Italy (population 62 million) with an estimated 10,149 cases with 631 deaths is now the “new” epicentre of the “pandemic”...

The Italian government has instructed its citizens to stay home unless they have to work or have to shop for “necessities”, leading to empty streets.
Cops in Rome enforce that people stay 3 feet apart from one another in public and that businesses close by 6 p.m.

The cabinet requested 7.5 billion Euros last week, but today Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced that 25 billion Euros ($28.3 billion), has been awarded to “fight” the outbreak.

Several countries, including the US, have advised against travelling to Italy or even bans.

Again data from the Johns Hopkins University is mentioned: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/486967-10000-coronavirus-cases-now-reported-in-italy


The CDC estimates that 34 million Americans have gotten the flu so far this season, 350,000 have been hospitalized and about 20,000 people have died of the flu.

Again data from the Johns Hopkins University is mentioned, (updated) 31 deaths in the US: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-deaths-20000-americans-this-season-including-136-children-cdc/


Data from “John Hopkins” sure sounds suspicious to me...
On 18 October 2019, about 6 weeks before the first illness from the coronavirus was reported in Wuhan China, high-level pandemic simulation exercise of a coronavirus outbreak was staged in New York.
This simulation, Event 201, was hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation!
https://youtu.be/mx8xKcQMTRs


Some think that the whole charade is very similar to the 2009 swine flu “outbreak”.
It is now known that of the about 60 million people, most of them children, that were poisoned with the Pandemrix vaccine, about one in 16,000 people will suffer from narcolepsy and cataplexy.

The UK government will pay each of the 60 victims about £1 million (approximately £60 million in total).
Across Europe, more than 800 children have gotten severely ill from the vaccine: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brain-damaged-uk-victims-swine-flu-vaccine-get-60-million-compensation-1438572


In the following video is a good analysis of the coronavirus media hysteria and some of the other things happening, brought to us from Australia; like paedophilia, mass surveillance and the police state (frankly I’m surprised that it hasn’t been deleted yet).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riq2e24IG2E
Title: Koch’s postulates
Post by: Firestarter on March 12, 2020, 10:39:24 am
There is only one way to “scientifically” determine whether a virus causes a disease – it must meet the 4 scientific criteria of Koch’s postulates. Of course coronavirus “experts” know about this, but for some reason don’t want the gullible public to know the truth.

As Koch’s postulates haven’t been used to determine whether COVID-19 causes illness, I can only reach the conclusion that the whole media hysteria is a hoax blown up to mythical “pandemic” proportions!

A virus can only be “confirmed” to cause disease or death if it meets the 4 scientific criteria of Koch’s postulates:

1) The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms;
2) The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture;
3) The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism;
4) The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

Because of new and improved detection methods, Koch’s postulates should be handled stricter, instead big pharma replaced these postulates with pseudoscience, so they can invent (causes of) diseases out of thin air: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%27s_postulates


It happened again!
Literally the same day that I called the coronavirus media hysteria a “pandemic”; the WHO declares it a global “pandemic”: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51839944
Title: Re: Koch’s postulates
Post by: Bladerunner on March 12, 2020, 12:58:51 pm
There is only one way to “scientifically” determine whether a virus causes a disease – it must meet the 4 scientific criteria of Koch’s postulates. Of course coronavirus “experts” know about this, but for some reason don’t want the gullible public to know the truth.

As Koch’s postulates haven’t been used to determine whether COVID-19 causes illness, I can only reach the conclusion that the whole media hysteria is a hoax blown up to mythical “pandemic” proportions!

A virus can only be “confirmed” to cause disease or death if it meets the 4 scientific criteria of Koch’s postulates:

1) The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms;
2) The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture;
3) The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism;
4) The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

Because of new and improved detection methods, Koch’s postulates should be handled stricter, instead big pharma replaced these postulates with pseudoscience, so they can invent (causes of) diseases out of thin air: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%27s_postulates


It happened again!
Literally the same day that I called the coronavirus media hysteria a “pandemic”; the WHO declares it a global “pandemic”: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51839944

It would depend on the micro-organism in question. Not all people who get it will become sick....or in some cases show up positive on the test...These are those enigmatic carriers that can spread it without knowing.

Blade
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 13, 2020, 12:05:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFYtgOEggNE
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 16, 2020, 09:16:48 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ48AvOVF5w
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: truthjourney on March 17, 2020, 11:54:53 am
It's doing exactly what it was meant to do. 

Are you unsettled?  The world is.  Look at Italy.  You will never find a more fearful group of people, who lay their hearts upon the stones of the Vatican.

But look at the markets.  On the day I first posted about the Wuhanvirus I took money out and invested instead in an Israeli medical company.  Did you?

You should have.  And if you haven't taken your money out already, don't.  The markets are being manipulated.  The will rise and fall like the sea on a stormy day and for a time those who trade on the sea will get rich and will be mixing doubles and toasting their success.  It won't last.

They can't see what is coming.

Wuhan will fade like all the news that came before it, but it will be back to ring in the New Year.

Wait and see.  And it will strike fear into every man who bears not the seal.
There's too much fearmongering going on. People are overreacting and hoarding toilet paper, hand sanitizer etc. I saw people fighting over toilet paper in a news clip. People are reporting their neighbors if they sneeze or cough. This is bringing out the worst in people. I don't believe a word the so called news says. Fear is a tool used to control people. People are playing right into the hands of those responsible for this and it will lead to the loss of even more rights. What's next, rioting? People need to calm down and stop acting stupid.
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 17, 2020, 12:11:27 pm
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/images/current-situation.jpg)



Bay Area shutdown: 7 million people ordered to shelter-in-place to stop spread of coronavirus



https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/bay-area-shutdown-7-million-people-ordered-to-shelter-in-place-to-stop-spread-of-coronavirus/



by: Alexa Mae Asperin

Posted: Mar 17, 2020 / 04:35 AM PDT / Updated: Mar 17, 2020 / 06:07 AM PDT









SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) – A shelter-in-place mandate is now in effect for nearly 7 million living in 6 Bay Area counties.

The measure was ordered Monday to help reduce the spread of the coronavirus.

The order went into effect at midnight and will last for the next three weeks.

It requires people living in San Francisco, Marin, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Alameda, and Contra Costa Counties to stay at home unless absolutely necessary.

This new health order only limits activity and travel.

Necessary government functions and essential stores will remain open.

You will still be allowed to buy groceries, pick up prescriptions, get gas for your car, and go to the bank.

City and county government services such as police, fire departments and hospitals will also be open.

Your trash will still be picked up.

Public transportation will still run, some with modified service.

Your mail will still be delivered.

Also, plumbers, electricians, hardware stores, and laundromats will still be available.

It’s also important to check on your elderly neighbors, friends and loved ones. Offer to pick up their prescriptions or groceries if you can.

Non-essential functions refer to places like bars, gyms, movie theaters, and dine-in restaurants.

This doesn’t mean restaurants will be closed at this time.

Many are still offering take-out and delivery. Uber Eats announced Monday it was waiving all delivery fees for independent restaurants.




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Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: truthjourney on March 19, 2020, 07:55:52 pm
Fear Is the Mind Killer
Truthstream Media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBi7YHbNdWA
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 20, 2020, 08:02:22 pm
The 5G Virus & Fear Based Programming ▶️️

13 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwTe3vH0R68
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: truthjourney on March 20, 2020, 08:39:56 pm
CoronaVirus Has People Fighting At Grocery Store Over Toilet Tissue!
Explicit language warning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbQhjieOps
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 22, 2020, 11:25:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLiUHABdto
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 23, 2020, 07:51:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75lbjYm0dME
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 23, 2020, 03:42:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgylp3Td1Bw&list=WL&index=3&t=0s
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 25, 2020, 12:03:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeVYFNb4UAs
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 25, 2020, 10:16:42 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiu-6410HOA
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 27, 2020, 05:47:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EQXhViMBdg
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 28, 2020, 12:01:37 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmtIIKsiYtQ
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 29, 2020, 10:56:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPTnW328mug
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 31, 2020, 08:37:30 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3wEZr2Pck
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Post by: patrick jane on April 02, 2020, 10:38:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlN87bea7Xw&list=WL&index=2&t=12s
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Post by: patrick jane on April 06, 2020, 07:41:39 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBmKbZRq_8Y&t=287s
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on April 06, 2020, 11:12:18 pm
I was talking to my wife the other day and said that from a purely apocalyptic viewpoint, CV-19 is like a pale horse.   It is worldwide, it is death to so many and debilitating to many more.  But instead of bringing people together, to find their religion and Christians to become closer to God, they are finding reasons in many cases to split either further. 

If God did not have white hair before this, his children being petty in so many things is making it whiter. 

So maybe the pale horse is deserved but I prefer to believe we are being tested. This is all my humble thoughts.

My mother, rest her soul, would tell me this is not the horsemen, but if we do not handle it right, it soon will be.  That is a chilling thought.
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Post by: patrick jane on April 06, 2020, 11:40:49 pm
I was talking to my wife the other day and said that from a purely apocalyptic viewpoint, CV-19 is like a pale horse.   It is worldwide, it is death to so many and debilitating to many more.  But instead of bringing people together, to find their religion and Christians to become closer to God, they are finding reasons in many cases to split either further. 

If God did not have white hair before this, his children being petty in so many things is making it whiter. 

So maybe the pale horse is deserved but I prefer to believe we are being tested. This is all my humble thoughts.

My mother, rest her soul, would tell me this is not the horsemen, but if we do not handle it right, it soon will be.  That is a chilling thought.
Thank you Mark and I agree.
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Post by: patrick jane on April 07, 2020, 01:21:05 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9zKvfSzA2M
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Post by: truthjourney on April 07, 2020, 02:54:03 pm
I was just sent a link to a video that was deleted by Vimeo and youtube. Yes I know, it's David Icke. I'm still sharing it.

Explosive David Icke coronavirus video now deleted by Vimeo as well as YouTube. What don't they want you to know? Watch here and please share with everyone you know and ask them to do the same

https://www.davidicke.com/article/567418/david-icke-live-london-real-today-330pm-uk?fbclid=IwAR3MQ14JQN2M2nNHiuE1JSuh_GBhJbWfXfW7Tjl5wvfQtilyZxx6YJCwVS4
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Post by: Mr E on April 07, 2020, 03:58:35 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

So where does the bulk of the money go?

Scroll through the list of organizations that they fund and discover how many are "health" related.  They use a lot of acronyms but if you dig a little you'll see how many of these are vaccine related and otherwise channels to send funds for specific population control (depopulation) efforts through organizations like UNICEF and even the Rotary Club, which seem innocent, but are central to immunization/vaccination programs around the globe.

Bill's dad-- Bill Sr, of course was a Planned Parenthood lawyer and board member.

I saw a pic today of him (Sr) with Dr Fauci.
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Post by: patrick jane on April 08, 2020, 02:56:31 am
Folks, I played this David Icke interview on my live stream tonight and my stream was shut down and I got a Warning from YouTube. Censorship is real.
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Post by: patrick jane on April 11, 2020, 01:17:00 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMTeYYOig0
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Post by: patrick jane on April 11, 2020, 06:06:55 am
"The constitution is already unofficially suspended: even the last stimulus bill, (which ended up at four trillion in printed electronic currency), was unconstitutional because the cowards were not actually present for the vote. DC city maintenance gardeners and lawn-mowers are deemed essential workers but congress and senate need not be present because it is too dangerous."

- dakk
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Post by: patrick jane on April 11, 2020, 11:02:48 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jvrPnYXp1c&t=849s
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on April 12, 2020, 07:28:05 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtKVP7WhnyU&list=WL&index=8&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on April 12, 2020, 07:30:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdKOlX5QOQw&list=WL&index=12&t=19s
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on April 13, 2020, 12:55:13 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0TxL087ea0
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Post by: patrick jane on April 16, 2020, 09:19:10 pm
The Great Falling Away: 5G, Vaccines, Mark of the Beast and the Silence in Heaven


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IuxlqK1td4
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Post by: patrick jane on April 21, 2020, 03:36:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXargSbVp7E
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Post by: patrick jane on April 27, 2020, 02:53:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLLU50gnCc&list=WL&index=12&t=12s
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Post by: patrick jane on April 27, 2020, 07:39:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGEuDRv_i4
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Post by: patrick jane on April 30, 2020, 12:50:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5f_6ltv7oI
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Post by: patrick jane on May 06, 2020, 10:02:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4weJmhPVjgo
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Post by: patrick jane on May 06, 2020, 08:17:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXlDL3GjQ_s&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: patrick jane on May 13, 2020, 08:10:19 am
Doctors Speak Out & The Violent Suppression Of Your Rights

5 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTffHgvYF2E&list=WL&index=29&t=200s
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Post by: patrick jane on May 13, 2020, 11:16:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7_VuQ2b9n8&list=WL&index=22&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on May 14, 2020, 12:34:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjilBVYDvU&list=WL&index=28&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on May 19, 2020, 11:46:30 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWsYqDEzKeM
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Post by: patrick jane on May 21, 2020, 04:33:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPEzxGOKVYg&list=WL&index=22&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on May 26, 2020, 09:50:16 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqHXsf3x7HA
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Post by: patrick jane on May 26, 2020, 11:20:40 am
MASS MONDAY: Should Christians Obey Lockdowns? | Louder with Crowder


17 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdELMAps0k
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Post by: patrick jane on May 27, 2020, 10:14:27 pm
The Government is Scarier than COVID! | Louder with Crowder


Steven details his recent experience in Michigan seeing a population of people more afraid of their government than of the coronavirus.


14 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzFnmNeGmc
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Post by: Bladerunner on May 27, 2020, 10:58:32 pm
The Government is Scarier than COVID! | Louder with Crowder


Steven details his recent experience in Michigan seeing a population of people more afraid of their government than of the coronavirus.


14 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzFnmNeGmc

Death is scarier than the Government? interesting idea!
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Post by: patrick jane on May 28, 2020, 09:32:29 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jwCN80tEHU
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Post by: patrick jane on May 31, 2020, 03:36:58 am
Liberty, License, Lockdowns, and Grace


There is a great myth regarding grace. Many Christians believe grace encourages sin. Therefore, they look to the law to control their flesh. Others, use grace to justify their sin, making sin no longer sin. Either way, both are wrong. One walks in his flesh binding it by the law, the other walks freely after his flesh. However, grace teaches us to walk after the Spirit. Grace replaces the law, produces zeal to do good, changes the inner man, and is the only way to stop sin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ooEb9MIOnM
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Post by: patrick jane on June 20, 2020, 01:08:21 pm
Communion in One Place


Throughout each year, we hold a few communion gatherings. Typically, we teach a lesson about what our communion together with one another in the body of Christ means, and then we eat a meal together. COVID-19 stay at home orders have recently caused churches across the US to hold virtual meetings. We know the church is Christ’s body, not a building. However, can church ministry be done from a distance?



Find the outline here :  https://graceambassadors.com/tradition/communion-in-one-place

Grace Ambassadors Bible Fellowship - June 14th, 2020.


1 hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehLATrqw9uI
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Post by: patrick jane on June 24, 2020, 12:54:20 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA6tSpHbJ4
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Post by: Bladerunner on June 24, 2020, 07:21:16 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA6tSpHbJ4


wow, someone needs to take this video off the air waves. but I digress...need to get back to work.

Blade
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Post by: Jesus Truth on June 28, 2020, 07:40:40 pm
The Coverup of the Century - ZOOMING IN SPECIAL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ74NhEUY-w
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Post by: patrick jane on July 02, 2020, 08:05:51 pm
Ordo Ab Chao: FEMA Camps, Riots, and Deep Underground Military Bases


This video might have been a little more relevant a few weeks ago, but I put it together as quick as possible. It is clear that the ruling does try to bring their own new order out of the chaos that they create. They invent the problem, then sell you the solution.

12 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChP8rNclbow
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Post by: Jesus Truth on July 17, 2020, 07:37:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjdhLriiNbw
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Post by: Bladerunner on July 18, 2020, 09:06:32 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjdhLriiNbw

If you are with the LORD, you need not worry.

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on July 19, 2020, 11:16:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62cXjx-GZWY
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Post by: Bladerunner on July 20, 2020, 07:57:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62cXjx-GZWY

I wore a mask for twenty five years and they protected the person I was helping..Today, I wear a mask again to help another.

Yet you call me a zombie....curious...

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on August 07, 2020, 07:33:36 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VL37kYuB50
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Post by: patrick jane on August 09, 2020, 08:56:15 am
Sad what this has done
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Post by: patrick jane on August 16, 2020, 09:38:48 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vX379EGZ6c&list=WL&index=31&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on August 21, 2020, 01:51:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJsxqyWBtNo
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Post by: patrick jane on August 29, 2020, 10:53:16 am
This will be here for a while
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Post by: patrick jane on August 29, 2020, 11:58:11 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlMpfCJqegE&list=WL&index=45&t=1s
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Post by: patrick jane on September 09, 2020, 09:00:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em4Kcs3xSJs&list=WL&index=39&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on September 26, 2020, 12:17:48 am
What The Abraham Accord Coin REALLY Means (2020)


8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUhCgdhFzg
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Post by: Bladerunner on September 26, 2020, 09:27:26 am
What The Abraham Accord Coin REALLY Means (2020)


8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUhCgdhFzg

God, I believe give us Trump (even with all his failures as a man) for a reason. That reason is displaying itself everyday. Will we get another four years of Him. With Prayer maybe but as we see in the video, the plan of God still marches on.

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on September 28, 2020, 09:26:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGyKnqBvxg
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Post by: patrick jane on September 28, 2020, 09:28:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJBk7XwqsZU
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Post by: patrick jane on October 03, 2020, 10:34:36 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJBk7XwqsZU
Interesting
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Post by: patrick jane on October 03, 2020, 11:12:06 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMvuvbBuXrM
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Post by: patrick jane on October 05, 2020, 11:47:33 am
(https://www-images.christianitytoday.com/images/119650.jpg?w=700)
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/october/pray-for-president-trump-tweet-covid-pastor-prayers-1-tim.html








Christians Call for Prayer After Trump Tests Positive for COVID-19
















Leaders urge Americans to “put aside partisan politics” and pray in the spirit of 1 Timothy 2.


Instructed in Scripture to pray for “all those in authority,” Christians offered their prayers for President Donald Trump after he shared on Twitter late Thursday night that he and First Lady Melania Trump had tested positive for coronavirus.

Many pastors and ministry leaders encouraged Americans that this was a time to pray for the president and the country regardless of political stances.

Trump’s coronavirus infection comes a month before the election and following a busy campaign week that included multiple out-of-state events and the first presidential debate.

Twitter petitioners included pastor and evangelist Greg Laurie of Harvest Christian Fellowship in California. Laurie has previously prayed with the president in the White House and has spoken up about the need for the church to “respond appropriately” to the threat of the coronavirus.

Eugene Cho, a former Seattle pastor who now leads the Christian advocacy organization Bread for the World, asked Twitter followers to “put aside partisan politics and genuinely lift up the President and FLOTUS in prayer.”




Greg Laurie

@greglaurie
Let’s all be praying for God’s intervention and healing for our President and First Lady! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849 …

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!

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Eugene Cho

@EugeneCho
May we put aside partisan politics and genuinely lift up the President and FLOTUS in prayer. Pray that many might be compelled to take this pandemic more seriously. May we also lift up so many in our nation and world that have been impacted by the pandemic. Lord, in your mercy. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849 …

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!

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In their messages on Thursday night, some Christian leaders—like Joe Carter of The Gospel Coalition and McLean Bible Church, outside Washington—quoted from 1 Timothy 2:1–4: “I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”

The passage has long inspired Christians to pray regularly for the president, regardless of who is in office, and has trended online on landmark dates during Trump’s presidency.



Joe Carter
@joecarter
As Paul wrote, “ urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions...” (1 Timothy 2:1-2). Please pray for President Trump, the First Lady, and all people who are suffering because of COVID-19.

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Joel C. Rosenberg
@JoelCRosenberg
The Bible commands believers to “pray for kings and all those in authority” — I join millions of Evangelicals in praying for President @realDonaldTrump and for the First Lady for the Lord to quickly heal them and protect them from harm. Praying for all our leaders today, as well. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1311892190680014849 …

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!

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As CT previously reported, searches for 1 Timothy 2:2 reached 10 times the average on the day after the 2016 presidential election, according to the popular Bible site Bible Gateway, and increased again around the inauguration the following January, according to Google Trends. It was the theme for a 2019 day of prayer for Trump organized by Franklin Graham.

Ronnie Floyd, president and CEO of the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee and president of the National Day of Prayer task force, told CT last year, “As a pastor of Southern Baptist churches for more than 40 years, I do not recall a time when there wasn’t prayer for our nation, our president, and our elected leaders during our Sunday services, regardless of which party was in power. Why? We are instructed in 1 Timothy 2 to pray for those in authority.”

Many of those who pray regularly for the president pray not only for his leadership and policies but also specifically for his health. At a recent Evangelicals for Trump rally, supporters brought up how they have prayed more urgently for the president’s protection as the election nears.




Tony Suarez
@revtonysuarez
Mr. President, @POTUS

I know a name greater than covid, corona, or sars, it’s the name of Jesus and I pray healing in that wonderful name over you and the first lady. Rest and get well sir. See you back on the campaign trail soon.

Blessings and continued prayers!

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Dwight McKissic
@pastordmack
Praying that the God of heaven would grant President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, a merciful, marvelous and miraculous healing from the Corona virus. May The Lord deliver our nation & the world from this dreaded disease, as we seek God’s face, & turn to Him in  humility.

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Another line from Scripture referenced in tweets on Trump’s behalf was 2 Chronicles 7:14: “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

Despite the politicization around the coronavirus response, white evangelicals are as worried about the spread of COVID-19 as the rest of the population (70 percent say they remain concerned) and as likely to know someone infected with the disease, according to a Data for Progress survey.

Back in March, CT shared 20 prayers to pray during the pandemic, asking God to heal and help the sick, protect vulnerable populations, and more.
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Post by: patrick jane on October 08, 2020, 10:11:50 pm
 :o
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Post by: patrick jane on October 09, 2020, 09:55:48 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGBfLH6xIU
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Post by: truthjourney on October 12, 2020, 10:33:18 pm
Coronavirus predictions by Last Man on Earth series 2015-2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIcYotjSgpY
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Post by: patrick jane on October 13, 2020, 10:20:26 am
Coronavirus predictions by Last Man on Earth series 2015-2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIcYotjSgpY
Thanks TJ
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Post by: patrick jane on October 20, 2020, 11:28:43 pm
Coronavirus predictions by Last Man on Earth series 2015-2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIcYotjSgpY
Thanks TJ
👍
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Post by: patrick jane on November 05, 2020, 07:38:50 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDH61WlIad4
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Post by: patrick jane on November 10, 2020, 12:21:15 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_3nA9HZ6g
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Post by: patrick jane on November 18, 2020, 08:43:48 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVnkJJUCQY
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Post by: patrick jane on November 21, 2020, 07:10:54 am
(https://www-images.christianitytoday.com/images/120532.jpg?w=940)
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/coronavirus-as-evidence-of-creation-in-freefall.html








Is The Coronavirus Evidence of a Creation in Freefall?





How does theology explain a pandemic? Basic biology, human sin, or the Devil?


When I first asked whether the coronavirus is evil, the virus was still novel and the panic not quite a pandemic. But as I type now, almost 1.5 million people have died worldwide and the virus proliferates relentlessly, a conflagration with plenty of wood yet to burn as we await a vaccine and its dissemination. What may have seemed to be a controllable fire in the beginning now rages nearly out of control in the United States, India, Brazil, Europe, and elsewhere. Viewing the virus as part of God’s “good creation” presses against our theological sensibilities. Is the coronavirus evil? How can it not be?


“COVID-19 pandemic has wide implications for what Christians mean by the goodness of creation,” wrote theologian Hans Madueme, who leveraged my “hornet’s nest” of a query for an online symposium. As this array of brilliant respondents has written, a virus, no matter how destructive, cannot carry the moral equivalence of human willfulness. But the mere lack of moral willfulness does not make it good.

Viruses are not free agents, but I still wonder about a kind of created freedom in the nature of things—akin to what we know about uncertainty in the quantum realm undergirding the reality we experience. Inasmuch as humans are made from the dust in God’s image (Gen. 2:7), there exists a continuity between Creator, creation, and creature. The free will of God manifests in the moral choices humans make, and is reflected, perhaps, in what we perceive as the random nature of nature.

John Stackhouse labels the virus “a pestilence with no place in the messianic kingdom to come.” Katherine Sonderegger aptly narrated the dreadful landscape wrought by this microscopic legion, a link to Mark 5:9 and to the tyranny of Satan persuasively argued by Gregory Boyd, a virus victim himself. The New Testament easily attributes viral pestilence to the Devil’s work, though God can use it for his own glory. Whether or not we believe this is what we’re witnessing with the pandemic depends on our theology.

As Jim Stump asserted, “science doesn’t get to answer theological questions, but it can certainly prompt us to reconsider whether we’ve done our theology well.” Science prompted me as a pastor to rethink certain aspects of my theology. As Christians, “we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Cor. 5:7), which means there’s more to reality than what we see. But it doesn’t mean we ignore what we can see. Faith is not fantasy. If theology is going to matter, it too must correspond with the way things are rather than with the way we believers want things to be.

I’ve never been fully satisfied by the delineation of labor between science explaining the how and theology the why. As creator of all things, God authored all that science discovers. We know death and viruses preceded humanity’s appearance on earth, and both play an essential part in biological evolution. “A bad thing might be a good thing,” as Stackhouse reminds. Conversely, a good thing can become a bad thing too, as Sonderegger allows with her mention of privatio boni (the absence of good). I wrote a follow-up editorial in praise of St. Augustine’s reasoning of evil as essentially nothing, a basic nonentity with wholly derivative power. Like a virus, evil extracts its life from the goodness it perverts. Thus evil often gets spoken in terms of what it is not: injustice or iniquity or ingratitude, disorder, disobedience, faith lessness, law lessness, god lessness, and the rest.

By laying the pandemic at Satan’s feet, Boyd asserts that to “take the New Testament’s perspective seriously” is to regard creation as “corrupted at some point by an enemy, to one degree or another.” As for how Satan becomes the Devil, science can’t help us. Tradition surmises he mutated through free will of his own. Theology grants moral agency on Satan’s part, a fallen angel before the fall who then provoked the fall of humans. Stackhouse notes the slithering serpent in Eden (and talking, no less, Gen. 3:1) as evidence of evil’s pre-Fall intrusion. Nevertheless, why allow an angel to become a demon? And why allow a snake in Eden’s grass—not to mention physical death and mosquitoes and the biological necessity of bacteria and viruses?

The best I have to affirm remains the free will defense, the logic of love. God so loves the world that he sent his Son to save it (John 3:16), but love can’t be coerced and also be love. Thus God, of his own eternal free will, purposely factors free will into the system for love’s sake and for genuine relationship with people made in his image. Allowing freedom to love means freedom to reject love. Extrapolate this logic to nature as a whole and you have what some see as a hint behind the why of random uncertainty.

Granted, God doesn’t desire a personal relationship with creation the way that he does with people, but the Creator’s relational nature still shows up in the symbiosis of nature. The freedom we experience as humans made from the dust corresponds to the free process wired into dust itself. But just as the free will of people (and angels) can reject God’s love—and do wrong and commit evil—so the free process of creation results in mosquitoes and the diseases they carry—not to mention genetic deformities, hurricanes, and earthquakes, all outcomes of a creation free to evolve and become what it becomes.

To the extent that such explanations remain unsatisfactory, I remind us that theological conjecture at its best remains a sinners’ endeavor. Moreover, as Gerald Bray rightly adds, “God is under no obligation to explain himself to us.” We debate “the problem of evil,” which isn’t really a problem if by problem we mean a puzzle to be rationally solved. Among the factors making evil so evil is its defiance of logic. Even if you blame the Devil, how do you determine what made the Devil decide to become the Devil? Adam and Eve, created as good, had no good reason for choosing badly. They just did it. We do it too. By choosing wrongly, we prove free will exists, but the tyranny of evil is that as soon as we choose it, we are no longer free. As the apostle Paul made clear in Romans 7, our choices set boundaries, and our unavoidably bad choices set inescapably tight boundaries that affect our futures not only in finite time and space but for eternity too. Our freedom constrains to such a severe extent that Paul could only speak of it in terms of enslavement.

Whether due to the wiles of the Devil, the randomness of a very good creation not yet fully free, or the mysterious providence of God, this coronavirus pandemic threatens, constrains, and destroys. It also eventually ends. Immunity and vaccines will take hold. The God who loves us gives us agency and creativity to overcome. But no human-generated immunity or vaccination exists against evil. Sin infects our souls over and over again. That the Son of God had to die to deliver us from evil attests to its truly hideous and destructive nature. Our only hope, thank God, is through Jesus Christ (Rom. 7:25), who starves evil of its power with his own sinless life. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Cor. 5:21). Into this glory, creation groans for its own redemption (Romans 8:21) and one day will have it.







This piece, adapted, was originally published in Sapientia, a periodical of the Henry Center for Theological Understanding, as a rejoinder to a series on the coronavirus and the goodness of creation.




Daniel Harrell is editor in chief at Christianity Today.
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Post by: Bladerunner on November 21, 2020, 05:02:05 pm
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Is The Coronavirus Evidence of a Creation in Freefall?





How does theology explain a pandemic? Basic biology, human sin, or the Devil?


When I first asked whether the coronavirus is evil, the virus was still novel and the panic not quite a pandemic. But as I type now, almost 1.5 million people have died worldwide and the virus proliferates relentlessly, a conflagration with plenty of wood yet to burn as we await a vaccine and its dissemination. What may have seemed to be a controllable fire in the beginning now rages nearly out of control in the United States, India, Brazil, Europe, and elsewhere. Viewing the virus as part of God’s “good creation” presses against our theological sensibilities. Is the coronavirus evil? How can it not be?


“COVID-19 pandemic has wide implications for what Christians mean by the goodness of creation,” wrote theologian Hans Madueme, who leveraged my “hornet’s nest” of a query for an online symposium. As this array of brilliant respondents has written, a virus, no matter how destructive, cannot carry the moral equivalence of human willfulness. But the mere lack of moral willfulness does not make it good.

Viruses are not free agents, but I still wonder about a kind of created freedom in the nature of things—akin to what we know about uncertainty in the quantum realm undergirding the reality we experience. Inasmuch as humans are made from the dust in God’s image (Gen. 2:7), there exists a continuity between Creator, creation, and creature. The free will of God manifests in the moral choices humans make, and is reflected, perhaps, in what we perceive as the random nature of nature.

John Stackhouse labels the virus “a pestilence with no place in the messianic kingdom to come.” Katherine Sonderegger aptly narrated the dreadful landscape wrought by this microscopic legion, a link to Mark 5:9 and to the tyranny of Satan persuasively argued by Gregory Boyd, a virus victim himself. The New Testament easily attributes viral pestilence to the Devil’s work, though God can use it for his own glory. Whether or not we believe this is what we’re witnessing with the pandemic depends on our theology.

As Jim Stump asserted, “science doesn’t get to answer theological questions, but it can certainly prompt us to reconsider whether we’ve done our theology well.” Science prompted me as a pastor to rethink certain aspects of my theology. As Christians, “we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Cor. 5:7), which means there’s more to reality than what we see. But it doesn’t mean we ignore what we can see. Faith is not fantasy. If theology is going to matter, it too must correspond with the way things are rather than with the way we believers want things to be.

I’ve never been fully satisfied by the delineation of labor between science explaining the how and theology the why. As creator of all things, God authored all that science discovers. We know death and viruses preceded humanity’s appearance on earth, and both play an essential part in biological evolution. “A bad thing might be a good thing,” as Stackhouse reminds. Conversely, a good thing can become a bad thing too, as Sonderegger allows with her mention of privatio boni (the absence of good). I wrote a follow-up editorial in praise of St. Augustine’s reasoning of evil as essentially nothing, a basic nonentity with wholly derivative power. Like a virus, evil extracts its life from the goodness it perverts. Thus evil often gets spoken in terms of what it is not: injustice or iniquity or ingratitude, disorder, disobedience, faith lessness, law lessness, god lessness, and the rest.

By laying the pandemic at Satan’s feet, Boyd asserts that to “take the New Testament’s perspective seriously” is to regard creation as “corrupted at some point by an enemy, to one degree or another.” As for how Satan becomes the Devil, science can’t help us. Tradition surmises he mutated through free will of his own. Theology grants moral agency on Satan’s part, a fallen angel before the fall who then provoked the fall of humans. Stackhouse notes the slithering serpent in Eden (and talking, no less, Gen. 3:1) as evidence of evil’s pre-Fall intrusion. Nevertheless, why allow an angel to become a demon? And why allow a snake in Eden’s grass—not to mention physical death and mosquitoes and the biological necessity of bacteria and viruses?

The best I have to affirm remains the free will defense, the logic of love. God so loves the world that he sent his Son to save it (John 3:16), but love can’t be coerced and also be love. Thus God, of his own eternal free will, purposely factors free will into the system for love’s sake and for genuine relationship with people made in his image. Allowing freedom to love means freedom to reject love. Extrapolate this logic to nature as a whole and you have what some see as a hint behind the why of random uncertainty.

Granted, God doesn’t desire a personal relationship with creation the way that he does with people, but the Creator’s relational nature still shows up in the symbiosis of nature. The freedom we experience as humans made from the dust corresponds to the free process wired into dust itself. But just as the free will of people (and angels) can reject God’s love—and do wrong and commit evil—so the free process of creation results in mosquitoes and the diseases they carry—not to mention genetic deformities, hurricanes, and earthquakes, all outcomes of a creation free to evolve and become what it becomes.

To the extent that such explanations remain unsatisfactory, I remind us that theological conjecture at its best remains a sinners’ endeavor. Moreover, as Gerald Bray rightly adds, “God is under no obligation to explain himself to us.” We debate “the problem of evil,” which isn’t really a problem if by problem we mean a puzzle to be rationally solved. Among the factors making evil so evil is its defiance of logic. Even if you blame the Devil, how do you determine what made the Devil decide to become the Devil? Adam and Eve, created as good, had no good reason for choosing badly. They just did it. We do it too. By choosing wrongly, we prove free will exists, but the tyranny of evil is that as soon as we choose it, we are no longer free. As the apostle Paul made clear in Romans 7, our choices set boundaries, and our unavoidably bad choices set inescapably tight boundaries that affect our futures not only in finite time and space but for eternity too. Our freedom constrains to such a severe extent that Paul could only speak of it in terms of enslavement.

Whether due to the wiles of the Devil, the randomness of a very good creation not yet fully free, or the mysterious providence of God, this coronavirus pandemic threatens, constrains, and destroys. It also eventually ends. Immunity and vaccines will take hold. The God who loves us gives us agency and creativity to overcome. But no human-generated immunity or vaccination exists against evil. Sin infects our souls over and over again. That the Son of God had to die to deliver us from evil attests to its truly hideous and destructive nature. Our only hope, thank God, is through Jesus Christ (Rom. 7:25), who starves evil of its power with his own sinless life. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Cor. 5:21). Into this glory, creation groans for its own redemption (Romans 8:21) and one day will have it.







This piece, adapted, was originally published in Sapientia, a periodical of the Henry Center for Theological Understanding, as a rejoinder to a series on the coronavirus and the goodness of creation.




Daniel Harrell is editor in chief at Christianity Today.


touching the title....where do we put the other viruses like Saars that was far more deadlier.

BLade
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Post by: patrick jane on November 21, 2020, 06:43:04 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on November 26, 2020, 05:58:32 pm
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Supreme Court Blocks New York’s Worship Service Restrictions




It’s the first time during the pandemic the high court has sided with churches and synagogues challenging the new rules on religious liberty grounds.


As coronavirus cases surge again nationwide the Supreme Court late Wednesday barred New York from enforcing certain limits on attendance at churches and synagogues in areas designated as hard hit by the virus.

The justices split 5-4 with new Justice Amy Coney Barrett in the majority. It was the conservative’s first publicly discernible vote as a justice. The court’s three liberal justices and Chief Justice John Roberts dissented.

The move was a shift for the court. Earlier this year, when Barrett’s liberal predecessor, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, was still on the court, the justices divided 5-4 to leave in place pandemic-related capacity restrictions affecting churches in California and Nevada.

The court’s action Wednesday could push New York to reevaluate its restrictions on houses of worship in areas designated virus hot spots, though both groups who sued are no longer in zones subject to the strictest attendance restrictions.

The justices acted on an emergency basis, temporarily barring New York from enforcing the restrictions against the groups while their lawsuits continue. In an unsigned opinion the court said the restrictions “single out houses of worship for especially harsh treatment.”

“Members of this Court are not public health experts, and we should respect the judgment of those with special expertise and responsibility in this area. But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten. The restrictions at issue here, by effectively barring many from attending religious services, strike at the very heart of the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty,” the opinion said.

Though the decision addresses the restrictions in New York in particular, religious liberty expert John Inazu said on Twitter, “I think the Court’s conclusion is correct and makes some important observations, including that these orders cause irreparable harm because they involve restrictions of First Amendment freedoms, and that virtual worship is not a constitutionally sufficient alternative.”

“In other words, worship is absolutely an ‘essential activity’ and to say otherwise is constitutionally incorrect and politically unwise,” he added. Inazu, a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis, said it was the first time the high court had sided with houses of worship challenging COVID-19 regulations, but also that as the pandemic has gone on, Americans have learned more about the disproportionate risks of different activities.

The opinion noted that in red zones, while a synagogue or church cannot admit more than 10 people, businesses deemed “essential,” from grocery stores to pet shops, can remain open without capacity limits. And in orange zones, while synagogues and churches are capped at 25 people, “even non-essential businesses may decide for themselves how many persons to admit.”

Roberts, in dissent, wrote that there was “simply no need” for the court’s action. “None of the houses of worship identified in the applications is now subject to any fixed numerical restrictions,” he said, adding that New York’s 10 and 25 person caps “do seem unduly restrictive.”

“The Governor might reinstate the restrictions. But he also might not. And it is a significant matter to override determinations made by public health officials concerning what is necessary for public safety in the midst of a deadly pandemic,” he wrote.

Roberts and four other justices wrote separately to explain their views. Barrett did not.

The court’s action was a victory for the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox Jewish synagogues that had sued to challenge state restrictions announced by Gov. Andrew Cuomo on October 6.

The Diocese of Brooklyn, which covers Brooklyn and Queens, argued houses of worship were being unfairly singled out by the governor’s executive order. The diocese argued it had previously operated safely by capping attendance at 25 percent of a building’s capacity and taking other measures. Parts of Brooklyn and Queens are now in yellow zones where attendance at houses of worship is capped at 50 percent of a building’s capacity, but the church is keeping attendance lower.

“We are extremely grateful that the Supreme Court has acted so swiftly and decisively to protect one of our most fundamental constitutional rights—the free exercise of religion,” said Randy Mastro, an attorney for the diocese, in a statement.

Avi Schick, an attorney for Agudath Israel of America, wrote in an email: “This is an historic victory. This landmark decision will ensure that religious practices and religious institutions will be protected from government edicts that do not treat religion with the respect demanded by the Constitution.”

Two lower courts had sided with New York in allowing the restrictions to remain in place. New York had argued that religious gatherings were being treated less restrictively than secular gatherings that carried the same infection risk, like concerts and theatrical performances. An email sent early Thursday by The Associated Press to the governor’s office seeking comment was not immediately returned.

There are currently several areas in New York designated orange zones but no red zones, according to a state website that tracks areas designated as hot spots.
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Post by: patrick jane on November 26, 2020, 05:59:57 pm
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SCOTUS Gets It Right on Religious Liberty: Church IS Essential





But the right outcome here doesn’t mean all restrictions are invalid or that churches should reopen.



Last night, the Supreme Court issued injunctive relief to houses of worship challenging New York City’s COVID-19 restrictions on in-person gatherings, the first time it has granted such relief during the pandemic. I have mixed views about the decision and early reactions to it.

First, I don’t think this decision is as momentous as commentators are suggesting. It is fairly fact-specific injunctive relief, and the nature and scope of pandemic orders vary greatly around the country. It’s hard to generalize much from this decision, and I’m concerned that public messaging about it will fuel a broader culture wars narrative from religious leaders like John MacArthur who insist “there is no pandemic” and continue to hold services for 7,000 unmasked people. An injunction against a 25-person cap is not a green light to return to regular worship. Given the current state of the pandemic, it’s not even a yellow light.

The dire rates of transmission we’re seeing all around the country, the Thanksgiving holiday travel, and our growing awareness that indoor, in-person gatherings are a major cause of transmission all increase the likelihood that even more restrictions may be coming. That’s another reason it’s best to view this order as limited and fact-specific.

That said, I think the Court’s decision is correct and offers some important observations. One of the most important is that these shutdown orders cause irreparable harm because they restrict First Amendment freedoms—and that virtual worship is not a constitutionally sufficient alternative. In other words, worship is absolutely an “essential activity” and to say otherwise is constitutionally incorrect and politically unwise. The New York City order and others like it should not be classifying worship as non-essential. Of course worship is essential.

That doesn’t mean worship may not be restricted. Earlier this year, the Court denied injunctive relief to a challenge against California’s restrictions affecting houses of worship. Chief Justice Robert’s concurrence supporting California’s restrictions seemed largely correct to me. In many cases, limitations on houses of worship will be constitutionally permissible policy decisions.

The New York City order is an example of policy overreaching. The constitutionality of other orders will depend upon local context and the degree to which restricted activities share comparable characteristics. Justice Gorsuch’s concurrence in last night’s decision gets too cute, comparing worship services to bike shops and liquor stores:

[T]he Governor has chosen to impose no capacity restrictions on certain businesses he considers “essential.” And it turns out the businesses the Governor considers essential include hardware stores, acupuncturists, and liquor stores. Bicycle repair shops, certain signage companies, accountants, lawyers, and insurance agents are all essential too. So, at least according to the Governor, it may be unsafe to go to church, but it is always fine to pick up another bottle of wine, shop for a new bike, or spend the afternoon exploring your distal points and meridians.

Picking up a bottle of wine and attending a lengthy worship service are not comparable activities when we consider where people are located, how they’re moving, and what they’re doing. We would need to know a lot more before buying into Justice Gorsuch’s closer: “Who knew public health would so perfectly align with secular convenience?”

Justice Gorsuch rightly notes that we are past the pandemic’s early stages and we know much more about the virus today. But it’s not clear which way that cuts. On the one hand, many houses of worship are taking precautions that appear to be effective (as noted by the evidence presented in this case), and certainly better than activities like in-person dining. On the other hand, the pandemic is getting worse.

The elephant in the room is all of the latitude given restaurants and bars, whose gatherings seem far worse for the pandemic than limited-number, masked, indoor worship. As Amanda Mull observes in The Atlantic:

Why can’t a governor or mayor just be honest? There’s no help coming from the Trump administration, the local coffers are bare, and as a result, concessions are being made to business owners who want workers in restaurants and employees in offices in order to white-knuckle it for as long as possible and with as many jobs intact as possible, even if hospitals start to fill up again.

She’s right. That’s bad news for the pandemic, but it also weakens governmental responses to constitutional claims by houses of worship. Keeping Home Depot open while limiting houses of worship might make sense. Keeping restaurants and bars open while restricting houses of worship at the level of NYC’s order is much harder to defend.

Of course, questions of law and governmental policy speak only to what houses of worship may do, not what they should do. At a time when much of the country is sick and suffering and much of the country is partying and dining, many houses of worship continue to comply voluntarily even when orders have exempted them. That’s a tangible sign of loving one’s neighbor, even at great cost.








John Inazu is the Sally D. Danforth Distinguished Professor of Law and Religion at Washington University in St. Louis. He is the author of Liberty’s Refuge: The Forgotten Freedom of Assembly (Yale University Press, 2012) and Confident Pluralism: Surviving and Thriving Through Deep Difference (University of Chicago Press, 2016), and co-editor (with Tim Keller) of Uncommon Ground: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference (Thomas Nelson, 2020).
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Post by: patrick jane on December 08, 2020, 05:24:34 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on December 11, 2020, 10:09:13 am
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Should Pastors Speak Up About the COVID-19 Vaccine?






With Christians split on the issue, some urge vaccination as a form of neighborly love, while other leave it up to conscience.


About half of US Protestant adults don’t plan to receive the new COVID-19 vaccine, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey.

While confidence in the vaccine has actually risen since September—three companies announced viable vaccines last month—50 percent of white evangelicals and 59 percent of black Protestants say they won’t get the vaccine, while the majority of the US population overall (60%) says they will.

For centuries, religion and medicine have collaborated for the prevention of disease, though the relationship at times has been complex. In more recent years, public health professionals have relied on church leaders’ support—particularly in communities of color—to gain trust in promoting health initiatives. The coronavirus pandemic has become another example of the complex relationship between faith and science.

Given the split among Christians, how should pastors engage with their congregants about the COVID-19 vaccine? Should they encourage church attenders to receive the vaccine?

CT heard from five pastors about how factors like race, theology, and congregational makeup affect their approach to the issue.

Jeff Schultz, pastor of preaching and community at Faith Church in Indianapolis


Our church been praying for vaccine research and development, but taking a vaccine is not something we would direct people on.

Our congregation has a number of doctors, nurses, medical researchers, and people in pharmaceutical development. We believe that God works through miraculous intervention, but more commonly through our work, gifts, and wisdom applied in service to others. We’ve encouraged people to wear masks and practice social distancing. We have members who won’t return to in-person worship until a vaccine is available. But I don’t think we would say anything formally about taking a vaccine (except to give thanks for their existence).

At an individual level, I will encourage people to consult with their physician on making that decision. I see masks and social distancing as extremely low-risk interventions that help us love our neighbors. A COVID-19 vaccine is another important way to stop the spread of a deadly disease, but I don’t believe that as a pastor I have the medical qualifications to direct people on medical treatments that may have side effects or long-term health impact. I want to help people see the good of a vaccine while asking us all to respect others’ decisions.

Luke B. Bobo, director of strategic partnerships at Made to Flourish, a pastor’s network based in Kansas, and visiting professor at Covenant Theological Seminary
Abortion, film, music, guns, cartoons, medical science—pastors, as cultural exegetes, must discuss these topics because such things are not benign. These cultural artifacts mediate messages that are often contrary to the Christian life and worldview, so engaging their congregants about the COVID-19 vaccine is no exception. I believe pastors must engage in vaccine discourse biblically, wisely, and Christianly.

Of course, for African American pastors, engaging their congregants about this vaccine will be more complicated, as many abuses have been inflicted on black persons for the sake of medical progress. Who can forget the Tuskegee syphilis experiment and the infamous “HeLa” cells, cancerous cells stolen from Henrietta Lacks without her family’s consent? So pastors must engage this topic historically as well.

Pastors must teach their people how to think critically about this COVID-19 vaccine. If they are asked whether they plan to take the vaccine, they should state their answer and follow with a statement like, “That is my decision; you must do the hard work and make your own decision.” In other words, pastors must not think for their congregants; rather, they must equip their people with the necessary tools so that they can think and decide for themselves.

Mandy Smith, pastor at University Christian Church in Cincinnati
I have no problem with vaccines on a philosophical or theological level and will defer to the medical professionals in my congregation who know more about such things than I know. The church I lead is on what’s sometimes called “Pill Hill”—we have four hospitals in our immediate neighborhood, and so we have quite a few medical professionals. At the same time, since we’re in a diverse community, we also have quite a few folks interested in alternative lifestyles, which leads them to be wary of vaccines.

As Christians, we need to have space for difference of opinions—unity in essentials, liberty in nonessentials, and in all things, love. On a philosophical level, our opinion about vaccines is nonessential—we won’t lose our salvation and shouldn’t split with other Christians over it.

At the same time, on a practical level, with a vaccine the decisions we make affect one another. While we might have differences of opinion where we can agree to disagree, if our children are playing together, and we’re sharing potluck meals and Communion, the choices we make about vaccines are not for our own personal sake but for the sake of our entire community. If there’s one thing that the pandemic has shown us, it’s that our lives, bodies, and health are interwoven.

Stephen Cook, senior pastor of Second Baptist Church in Memphis
COVID-19 has claimed the lives of more than 283,000 of our neighbors in the United States, more than 1.5 million of our neighbors around the world. With the hope of a vaccine on the near horizon, pastors have the opportunity to call Christ’s people in our congregations to neighbor-love in a way that embodies Christ’s command to love one another.

When Jesus is questioned by a lawyer who wants to know who counts as his neighbor (Luke 10), he responds with the story of the Samaritan who stopped to provide for the needs of the one beaten and left for dead. Notably, the Samaritan whom Jesus points to as an exemplar of merciful service lives out the call to neighbor-love through an act of healing.

Encouraging people of faith to be vaccinated against this disease that has devastated so many is a pastoral responsibility. It is an occasion to summon Christ’s followers to consider the role we have to play in promoting the healing of the world. It is an opportunity for us to recall that, at the end of the story, Jesus lifts up the one who acts like a neighbor in response to a desperate need.

Stephanie Lobdell, campus pastor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University in Ohio
The directive of Christ to love our neighbor has informed the life of the university campus I pastor in distinctive ways, from masks to plexiglass dividing diners in the cafeteria. Moving forward, it ought to inform our posture toward the vaccine as well. To receive the vaccine if one is physically able is yet another way to practice love for neighbor.

As a Christian liberal arts university in the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition, we bring an additional impetus to the vaccine conversation. As Wesleyans, we hold steadfastly to the centrality of cooperative grace in Christian practice. God takes the initiative toward us, inviting us into a relationship of love as well as into meaningful partnership in the work of embodying new creation. We seek to inspire our students to view the vocation for which they are studying as an expression of that partnership.

When scientists unravel the DNA of a dangerous virus, when doctors work tirelessly to find more effective treatments, when researchers formulate a shot that protects people against infection, we do not raise a self-righteous fist in the face of science claiming, “Faith over fear!” Rather, we rejoice. We rejoice at the life-giving manifestation of divinely ordained vocation. We proclaim thanks be to God, both for God’s provision and for the holy gift of human capacity.

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Post by: patrick jane on December 13, 2020, 08:08:43 pm
"Viruses of the mind": Fighting for Truth inside this increasingly polluted 'meme-pool'...


Dawkins spreading his memes at Cannes 2007

43 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5IRYbzS-gs
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Post by: patrick jane on December 17, 2020, 06:45:11 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on December 29, 2020, 08:30:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA-5XB2Bqds


Dr Robert Willner, author of the famous book "Deadly Deception", proved that viruses do not cause disease. He supported the Terrain theory and debunked the idea that sex and HIV do not cause AIDS.

 
"The Bubonic plague killed half the population of Europe. The question you must ask and must answer, if you are going to be a rational thinking Human being is why didn't it kill the other half?


In United States, in 1919, 18 million people died of the flu. My question is why didn't it kill the other 92 million die?


The answer to that and every reporter owes it to their readers is very simple, the bugs do not cause the disease, unless there is a suitable terrain.
So the answer to all disease is not to take the shotgun and blow a Human being apart, but to simply prevent the disease to begin with, by living at peace and in harmony, not only with your fellow Human beings, but every organism on this planet."



Video taken from the channel:
UnifyThePeople - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_kvnUusdDPeJgByvgkEFAA
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Post by: Bladerunner on December 29, 2020, 09:02:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA-5XB2Bqds


Dr Robert Willner, author of the famous book "Deadly Deception", proved that viruses do not cause disease. He supported the Terrain theory and debunked the idea that sex and HIV do not cause AIDS.

 
"The Bubonic plague killed half the population of Europe. The question you must ask and must answer, if you are going to be a rational thinking Human being is why didn't it kill the other half?


In United States, in 1919, 18 million people died of the flu. My question is why didn't it kill the other 92 million die?


The answer to that and every reporter owes it to their readers is very simple, the bugs do not cause the disease, unless there is a suitable terrain.
So the answer to all disease is not to take the shotgun and blow a Human being apart, but to simply prevent the disease to begin with, by living at peace and in harmony, not only with your fellow Human beings, but every organism on this planet."



Video taken from the channel:
UnifyThePeople - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_kvnUusdDPeJgByvgkEFAA

He is right...

But I will go one further.....  God is the one being that can allow one to get the virus or not. Rem. He is in control of everything.    He also determines when each of us will die, whether it be from a heart attack, car wreck, war or by a virus........Thank Him for your good health instead of those that will deceive you.l

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on December 31, 2020, 09:41:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnPgCUhLTJE
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on January 13, 2021, 10:51:23 am
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2021/january/vital-information-for-churches-and-christian-leaders.html







Will Churches be Back to Normal by Easter, Summer, or Fall? Vital Information for Churches and Christian Leaders





A brief overview of Ed Stetzer's interview with Dr. Francis Collins, Director of the National Institutes of Health


Ed Stetzer: [Church leaders] are asking questions about when we might be back together. Help us understand the timeline a bit more, knowing thing might not go the way that we expect.

Dr. Francis Collins: I’ve been working from home for almost a year and I expect I’m going to be in my home office for a few more months. Here we are at the beginning of 2021, and this pandemic across our country is the worst it’s been, with 3,000 people or more losing their lives every day.

The bright spot, of course, is the development of vaccines. We do now have two such vaccines that are carefully reviewed, shown to be safe and effective by rigorous means, and authorized by the FDA for emergency use. We’re doing everything we can to get those dosages into people’s arms because that is how we are going to get past this.

I know people may have mixed feelings about the vaccine. For me, as a scientist, it feels to me that God gave us the skills to be able to understand how these things work, to identify this pathogen, and to (in record time) be able to come up with the vaccine, which has 95% efficacy. They’re actually a lot better than most of us dreamed we would have at the present time. So this is a gift from God, and a gift we all need to embrace to get past this.

To be able to immunize 300 million people is not something that can be done in less than a few months. I do think, by June or thereabouts, we might be getting close to that point where 80-85% of the country is immune. At that point, the virus has to start fading away, because there aren’t enough new people to infect.

I don’t think that we’ll be able to bring churches together for an Easter celebration this year, though I would love if that were the case. It is going to take all of us to get there.

I am concerned that people of faith, in some instances, seem reluctant to embrace this as a gift. If only half of Americans take this vaccine, we will not be past this any time soon. We have to get to the point where most of the population is immune, or we haven’t really ended things.

Stetzer: What would you say to those who think this vaccine was rushed?

Collins: We did move this more quickly than has ever happened. Partly this is because of new technologies that were developed in the last 25 years. Let me assure you, as a physician and scientist who has been in the middle of these vaccine developments for the past year, the only corners that have been cut were the bureaucratic ones.

The science is as rigorous as anything we have ever done, in terms of vaccine development. The ultimate conclusion about safety and efficacy, which is in the public domain, is incredibly compelling. 30,000 people enrolled in these trials, and 95% efficacy showed up with no real evidence of any safety concerns. The data is there! So, ignore the conspiracy theories and look at the evidence. That is what we are all called to do.

[Dr. Collins also addressed question about stem cell lines, the process, and conspiracy theories. Listen to the full interview here]

Stetzer: You’ve said elsewhere that taking the vaccine is not something you do for your just yourself, but as a way to love other people. Can you tell us more about that?

Collins: There are two primary ways.

First, this virus is so hard to manage because you can carry it and spread it without even knowing. Vaccination is a way to reduce that risk.

Second, on a larger scale, if we are all part of a community, we really need all of us engaged in the effort to generate herd immunity.

We need everyone to succeed. This isn’t so different from putting on a seatbelt or not drinking and driving. We don’t want to make the vaccine a law, but it is a moral responsibility.

Stetzer: What do you think the level of mitigation will be at by summer?

Collins: I wish I could be more precise. Some of this depends on whether other vaccines get approved. There are six more being studied. The more that get approved, the quicker we can vaccinate.

We also have to study whether or not the vaccine is safe and effective for children. There is still a lot of uncertainty.

Don’t have your heart set on June, but by the fall we ought to be in a pretty good place. I don’t think it would be totally unrealistic to think that by June or July that we might be in a place to have a lot more public gatherings, including churches, but I can’t promise that.

If 30% or 40% of Americans don’t take it, we don’t get out of this.

Stetzer: When you say it’s going to be different in the fall, what will it look like?

Collins: There is a big unanswered question.

We are intensely investigating whether or not those who have received the vaccine can still spread the virus even if they don’t get sick. If the vaccine means they don’t get sick and they can’t convey the virus, mask wearing won’t be expected. If you can still spread the virus even after the vaccination, you’ll still have to wear a mask.

I don’t think so, but we have to keep the option open.

Stetzer: To close, give us a short vision on why Christians should be engaged with the vaccine, and should advocate for it.

Collins: This is not the first plague that we’ve had to deal with. Christians have always had the courage to figure out how to help. We should do that now.

We won’t help the situation if we don’t get the vaccine and continue to spread the virus or ignore protective measures.

One of the ways we evangelize is through our actions. Are we creating a positive public witness? Are we a group people want to be a part of? Are we helping our neighbors? Are we reaching out to the lonely? Are we being a listening ear, virtually?

Let’s focus on being a part of worldview that others want to be a part of. We can get through this, but we have to get through this together.








Ed Stetzer is executive director of the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center, serves as a dean at Wheaton College, and publishes church leadership resources through Mission Group. The Exchange Team contributed to this article and has updated the article.
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Post by: patrick jane on January 24, 2021, 08:05:29 pm
3rd stimulus checks: GOP congressman suggests $1,400 payment only for those who get COVID-19 vaccine


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https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/3rd-stimulus-checks-gop-lawmaker-suggests-1400-payment-only-for-those-who-get-covid-19-vaccine/

Now that he’s assumed office, President Joe Biden is expected to try to get his $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief plan passed as quickly as possible. The measure includes a $1,400 stimulus checks for most Americans.

With Democrats in control of both the presidency and Congress, the overall plan has a good chance of passage. However, one Republican congressman is throwing up a roadblock of sorts.

Rep. Steve Stivers, a Republican from Ohio, suggested checks go to people who’ve received the coronavirus vaccine.

“I hope the administration will look at that option because we actually buy something with our $1,400 — and that’s herd immunity,” Stivers said in an interview with Yahoo Finance.

He suggested the quickest way to get the economy going is to get people vaccinated and back to work or school.

“While I am not for giving a $1,400 stimulus check for anything, I’d be willing to sign off on a stimulus check of $1,400 for people who take the vaccine,” Stivers said.

While that suggestion is not likely to move forward, Biden’s plan isn’t moving as quickly as some hoped. The checks are part of a complex and layered plan that includes increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, expanding paid leave for workers and increasing tax credits for families with children.


Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 18, 2021, 07:50:37 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ws1gVXbkOk
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on March 18, 2021, 11:50:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ws1gVXbkOk

to believe the pale horse seal is opened, then you donot believe God's wrath starts with the seven seals.

Blade
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on March 30, 2021, 09:54:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4KYgJbVqg
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on March 30, 2021, 10:28:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4KYgJbVqg


Dead On Target.....

Blade
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: truthjourney on March 31, 2021, 02:56:55 am
The Amazon series “Utopia” filmed in 2019 and released September of 2020, involves a created & released virus with a suspicious jab that makes people sterile. Nothing surprising here, just another show revealing the elite and their methods.

“You created a panic and now everybody’s begging for the ‘jab’. – Yes, and we now have exactly what we want. Hundreds of millions of Americans lining up, offering us their arms and letting us give them our creation.”

“We intend to stop human reproduction for three generations. The busy, endless, global assembly line of babies will grind to a halt...In the first 5 years, we’ll start to see major birth rate declines as teenagers today hit their child bearing years”.



https://www.facebook.com/367850210448374/videos/167078761909273
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Post by: patrick jane on May 05, 2021, 11:48:06 am
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/may/bible-reading-study-trauma-ptsd-covid19-mental-health.html








Study: Trauma-Informed Bible Reading Reduces Depression, Anxiety, Anger







Research in Virginia jail could help churches deal with emotional impact of the pandemic.


One day soon the pandemic may be past, and COVID-19, a memory. But the trauma—from the isolation, seeing people die, facing financial stress, and living with loss and the anxiety of the unknown—will continue for a long time to come.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the percentage of American adults with recent symptoms of anxiety and depressive disorders increased more than 5 points between the summer of 2020 and the spring of 2021. One out of every 10 people reports having an unmet mental health care need.

“We’re going to see this level of trauma for many years," said Nicole Martin, executive director of trauma healing at the American Bible Society (ABS). “It’s not just going to go away when everyone is vaccinated and everyone is allowed inside.”

Martin and the American Bible Society want to meet that need with trauma-informed Bible reading, teaching people about healing from trauma using Scripture.

A recent ABS-commissioned study by Baylor University researchers found that combining education about mental health best practices with Bible reading can have a significant benefit. In their study, this reduced the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder and increased forgiveness, compassion, and sense of purpose.

“As America experiences a mental health crisis, this study shows the potential benefits of faith-sensitive care for traumatized people,” said Robert L. Briggs, ABS president and CEO. “The Bible has been shown to be a vital source for emotional, spiritual, physical, and mental healing.”

The study looked at the effectiveness of the ABS curriculum Healing the Wounds of Trauma, taught inside Riverside Regional Jail in North Prince George, Virginia.

A group of 210 incarcerated men and women volunteered to take the five-session program, where trained facilitators read Scripture with participants and walk them through a process of identifying their pain, sharing it, and bringing their trauma to the cross of Christ for healing, so they can be freed to care for themselves and serve others. The participants answered questions about themselves and their mental health before, immediately after, one month after, and three months after finishing the program. Another group of 139 incarcerated people volunteered to take the survey without going through the program.

Comparing the two groups, researchers found that the program showed statistically significant results.

“Whenever someone says that a particular program is remarkably effective based on the success rate of participants, they don’t have an answer to the question, ‘Compared to what?’” said Byron R. Johnson, one of the three researchers at Baylor University's Institute for Studies of Religion who worked on the study. “Having a control group that is comparable to the experimental group allows us to determine if the intervention is having an independent or unique effect.”

The study groups were broken up into 22 cohorts, 10 male and 12 female. Participants were about half white and half Black, and ranged in age from 18 to 65. Most were in the Virginia jail for a parole or probation violation, and they had been to jail, on average, five or six times. The control group was fairly similar, though they were less likely to be Christian, be married, or have committed a violent offense.

The study showed that the group that went through the program saw a drop in feelings of depression, anxiety, and anger, along with “complicated grief,” which includes denial of traumatic events, negative affect, and avoiding activities associated with trauma. They also had less depression and fewer suicidal thoughts.

At the same time, compared to the control group, the people in the study experienced an increase in feelings of forgiveness and compassion, and reported increased rates of resiliency.

Johnson said he and his fellow Baylor researchers, Sung Joon Jang and Matt Bradshaw, expected to see some differences. But they didn’t anticipate how clear it would be, even immediately after the program finished.

“We saw a reduction in PTSD symptoms, an increase in emotional well-being, and an improvement in attitudes toward God and the Bible,” he said.

The impact may not be as clear in the general population as it is for incarcerated people, according to Johnson. People in jail have typically experienced more trauma in their lives, and there are demographic differences and different contexts that make extrapolation from the study uncertain. But Johnson said the curriculum wasn’t designed specifically for prisons, and he would expect to see trauma-informed Bible reading have similar impacts on everyone.

Heath Lambert, the author of numerous books on biblical counseling, said this makes sense if you realize how much the Bible speaks to trauma, isolation, alienation, and crisis.

“That’s just what the Bible was written to address," said Lambert, an associate professor at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Kentucky, and senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida. “The Bible explodes with relevance.”

Lambert has seen firsthand some of the traumatic impact the pandemic has had on people. Some in his church have lost loved ones. Many are dealing with unbearable loneliness—separated from their church and their families.

“That is isolating and hard and wounding,” he said. “I’ve talked to these people on the phone, and they’re in tears.”

Church can be a practical solution to loneliness and isolation, according to Lambert. But with the Bible, Christian ministers can also help people meet a sovereign God who is in control and loves them personally.

“The church addresses the fear problem by talking about a big God who holds the world,” he said.

While it’s still hard to say anything definitively at this point, Lambert said he expects that there will be an increase in the number of people who come to church after the pandemic, because they’re searching for answers and community.

ABS wants to help churches be prepared, with Bible-based material that helps people work through trauma.

“It changes the way you think,” Martin said. “It changes how you think about pain. It changes how you think about suffering.”

And though the immediate suffering of the pandemic may soon be over, the need to address trauma didn’t start with COVID-19 and will continue long after.

“All of us have wounds. All of us have pain,” Martin said. “The invitation to meet the ‘Wounded Healer’ through the Bible has the power to change lives.”
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Post by: patrick jane on May 07, 2021, 03:18:53 pm
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/may/white-evangelical-pastors-covid-vaccine-hesitancy-preach-ch.html








White Evangelical Pastors Hesitant to Preach Vaccines






Advocates say more subtle approaches and one-on-one engagement may actually do more to inform the unvaccinated without further dividing the faithful.


As COVID-19 vaccination rates slowed this spring, Americans’ attention turned toward the groups less likely to get the shot, including white evangelicals.

Black Protestants were initially among the most skeptical toward the vaccine, but they grew significantly more open to it during the first few months of the year, while white evangelicals’ hesitancy held steady.

With African Americans, many credit robust campaigns targeting Black neighborhoods, launching vaccination clinics in Black churches, and convening discussions featuring prominent Black Christian voices for reducing rates of hesitancy. So for those eager to see higher levels of vaccination, the question became: Are white evangelical leaders doing enough to engage their own?

The latest poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit research organization focused on health issues, found that as of the end of April, white evangelicals (54%) were about as likely to have received the COVID-19 vaccine as the country overall (56%).

The difference comes with the attitudes among the unvaccinated. White evangelicals are half as likely as Americans overall to say they plan to get the shot ASAP, and 20 percent say they definitely won’t be getting the shot, 7 percentage points lower than the rest of the country.


Most evangelical churches in the country span a range of perspectives on vaccination, which makes it difficult for pastors to know when or how to address the topic.

“I know pastors who won’t even mention masks because people would leave. I’d say vaccines are even more sensitive,” said Dan DeWitt, who directs the Center for Biblical Apologetics and Public Christianity at Cedarville University. “Pastors feel so constrained. They want to take care of their people, but they know one careless comment could cost them.”

The issues dividing the country in 2020 divided churches too. While pastors tried to adapt worship services and continue to provide spiritual care for the suffering and mourning, congregational disputes over politics, racial issues, and COVID-19 responses spiked. Church leaders fielded complaints for being too cautious or not cautious enough, with members threatening to leave or simply making the move over reopening plans.

After a year like that, some don’t feel comfortable publicly endorsing or rejecting the shot; maybe they would if tensions weren’t so high. Even pastors who personally trust the vaccine and would recommend it may worry that it’s not their topic to preach on or that doing so would unsettle their congregation.

Curtis Chang, the former pastor and Fuller Theological Seminary senior fellow behind ChristiansAndtheVaccine.com, says pastors are in a tough position. “They’re really stuck. They’re feeling paralyzed and muzzled,” he said. He challenges them to think beyond Sunday sermons to other ways to engage the issue.

Chang’s site and campaign offer a slate of informative videos for Christians and for pastors in particular. His message to those leading evangelical congregations: “Don’t feel like you need to preach on this from the pulpit. Look for other subtle ways to exercise your influence.”

That’s what Kentucky minister Carl Canterbury did. He told the Lexington Herald-Leader that he wouldn’t address the vaccine from the pulpit, but, knowing that vaccine misinformation is rampant in his small town in east Kentucky, he would talk to fellow members at Louellen Pentecostal Church about why he went ahead and got the Johnson & Johnson shot.

“So many people think it’s a conspiracy, and they want to know, are you getting it? The day I had my shot, I had four members in our church to stop by and ask, did I take the shot, and I told them, yes,” Canterbury said, noting that every pastor in the small town of Closplint had also been vaccinated. “Because I did, they did.”

What happened at his Pentecostal church, where people changed their mind after hearing a pastor or church member talk about why they got the shot, is a promising trend.

And it makes sense. Though many people were eager to immediately roll up their sleeves for the COVID-19 jab, having questions about the new vaccines or wanting to wait for others to get the shot is actually a common, natural response, wrote epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz.

“It’s also worth reiterating that most of these hesitant people do eventually get vaccinated. Sometimes they are late, sometimes they take a while to convince, but most of them are reasonable people worried about something they don’t yet fully understand,” he said. “Most can also be reassured with time and adequate information shared by medical providers.”

PRRI found in March that among churchgoers who are waiting to see if they’ll get the vaccine, nearly half of white Protestants said engagement from their faith community—either seeing others get vaccinated or hosting events like forums or clinics—would make them more likely to do so.

The poll also found that white evangelical Protestants who attend church more often are slightly less likely to want to get the vaccine (in March, 43% said they had done so or planned to ASAP) than those who attend less often (48%). Among Black Protestants, it was the opposite; church attendance was correlated with greater openness to the vaccine.

Chang suggested that the Black church tradition has primed them to see health as a community issue, and that Black churchgoers are more likely to trust the model set by their pastors—many of whom signed up for the vaccine early in public-facing vaccination campaigns.

As vaccine access expanded in March and April, many prominent pastors touted their decision to get the vaccine, such as Southern Baptist Convention president J. D. Greear, who posted a #sleeveup selfie on Twitter. Others opened their churches as vaccination sites, such as First Baptist Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress, a former evangelical adviser to President Trump.

But many white evangelicals see vaccination not as a mandate of their faith but as a matter of personal conscience. It’s between them and their families, them and their health care provider, or them and God.

There are a few who embrace conspiracy theories about the vaccine and the coronavirus, of the sort promoted by evangelical leaders such as Eric Metaxas, and some who claim the inoculation is somehow connected to the “mark of the beast.” More commonly, though, evangelicals who are hesitant to receive the vaccine were resisting what they saw as cultural pressure to take away their freedom to make an individual decision.

Chang said that for some the attitude is, “I made my decision. Don’t tell me what to do,” or “I prayed about it, God told me not to take the vaccine, therefore end of discussion.”

Christian messaging around the COVID-19 vaccine has employed a range of theological reasoning: Vaccination is a way to take advantage of the blessings and protections God gives us through science. It’s an expression of love and care for our neighbors, especially those who are medically vulnerable. It allows us to participate in God’s healing of the world.

As stances on masking and vaccination become conflated with ideological positions, evangelicals are also sensitive to how they talk about the issues in faith terms.

At Madison Baptist Church in Georgia, pastor Griffin Gulledge models wearing a mask to church and prays during services to thank God for the vaccine and for effective treatments against the coronavirus—“That sends a message,” he says—but he also believes that he’s not a public health expert, and people may have good reasons for waiting to vaccinate.

“Christ tells us to love your neighbor as yourself, then the apostle Paul tells us to maintain the unity of the Spirit and the bond of peace. I think those are two things we need to balance,” said Gulledge. “I don’t think it is reasonable for people to say in all cases, universally, to love your neighbor you must follow this or that precaution and you must get vaccinated at this time. … These things are complicated. Reasonable people are going to come to different conclusions.”

Despite assumptions about COVID-19 approaches in the rural South, 30-year-old Gulledge said the “vast majority” of his church was eager to get vaccinated, so much that they helped him find an appointment to get the shot.

Being a pastor and being a part of Christian community has always involved designating between matters of gospel importance and individual freedom. Lately, those issues have come up in particularly visible, fraught ways as the country takes sides on pandemic responses and vaccines.

DeWitt at Cedarville points out how much tone and perception matter when it comes to how churches address COVID-19. What some people see as an act of caring, others see as overreach.

“How do we stay committed to the gospel and committed to this message that we care for body and soul?” he asked. “If there is no good evidence that the vaccine is hurtful, and if there is evidence that the vaccine is helpful, then church leaders should be vocal—not for virtue-signaling but because it’s an actual good and leads to flourishing.”

DeWitt also sees the attitudes over coronavirus responses as tied to deeper issues in the American church, where he worries too many people are conflating “scriptural identity” and “political identity.” “We’re in a culture in which things that are superficial are seen as deeper loyalties,” he said.

The fact that American evangelicalism is so fragmented—that the big-name ministry leader who inspires one group of evangelicals may totally turn off another—makes it a challenge to engage the movement as a whole, even when calling on shared beliefs and values.

“The recipe here is information plus trust,” said Chang. “We can provide the information. The trust has to come from a person who’s sending this along and saying to their friend or their church or their family, ‘Hey, would you be willing to take a look?'"
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Post by: patrick jane on May 07, 2021, 04:19:58 pm
[Re-UPLOAD] THREE THREE THREE: Jab Anxiety, Caitlyn for CA, Woke CIA, Watchdog UFOs - CCNT 333


Canary Cry News Talk 333 - 05.05.2021 - THREE THREE THREE: Jab Anxiety, Caitlyn for CA, Woke CIA, Watchdog UFOs - CCNT 333


4 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISuxZ7ESB9U
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on May 07, 2021, 06:02:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm_4CD0zWB4
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on May 22, 2021, 08:26:53 am
The Conditioned...

2 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKC1j8A4yg4
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on May 25, 2021, 12:19:01 pm
WOO HAN, WHO CON: EV Pope Mobile, Freudian Fauci, CDC Heart Problem, Fortress of Zion - CCNT 341


Full Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpO1QXFQ11U



Time Stamps:


Fauci almost slips “Chinese Com…” (Clip) 0:09:17

 FLIPPY 0:16:40
-China space Robot Arm concerns US (SCMP) 
-Flippy makes paella (Clip and Story) 

SPACE POPE REPTILIAN 0:28:55
-Pope Mobiles goes EV! (NBC News) 

WACCINE/PANDEMIC SPECIAL 0:32:45
-Vax-a-Million raises jab 33 percent in Ohio! (33 Headline)
-666 children test positive in 2 districts, India (666 Headline) 
-Fauci flip flop, not convinced Rona formed naturally (DailyMail) 
-Intel on staff members, Wuhan (WSJ) 
-Politifact quietly retracts Rona Lab Origin Theory as “Debunked” (Epoch Times) 
-Why is Anthony Fauci Hedging? Chris Shillzilla (CNN)
-What Bosses Really Think of Remote Workers (Atlantic) 
-CDC Investigates Heart Problem in Young Jabbed (NY Times) 
-Israel ends all restrictions after jab roll out (Reuters) 
-Sentences reduced for getting the Jab (The Sun) 

BREAK (producer party) 2:11:51
 
POLYTICK 2:49:54
-Hour by Hour Biden Behind the scenes, Gaza (Times Israel) 
-Biden faces “crunch moment,” especially with progressives (CNN) 
-A look at the “Fortress of Zion” (NY Times) 

BEAST SYSTEM 3:32:05
-LA Private Police Forces (vice) 

FEWER PEOPLE TO BE BORN 3:57:58
-Declining American Birth rate, Good for Economy (Insider)
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on June 02, 2021, 08:07:56 am
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2021/may/good-samaritan-and-vaccines.html







The Good Samaritan and Vaccines








Quantifying the most vulnerable among us and choosing to not walk by.


Over the past month, I have been burdened by what I’m hearing coming out of some Evangelical circles regarding COVID-19 vaccinations. While I can understand some reasons for vaccination hesitation, I am disturbed by others—some as extreme as the vaccination being the Mark of the Beast, but also just widespread disinformation posted online by evangelicals. Spreading false information is not just unhelpful, but, as far as I’m concerned, harmful. So, to be clear. I am an advocate for COVID-19 vaccinations. That’s why I’m grateful for voices like Dr. Smith and her article below.

I got into the field of epidemiology because I see it as the science of the Good Samaritan – of quantifying the most vulnerable among us, those on the margins, through population-level data, and choosing not to walk by.

For months now, I’ve been writing about the pandemic from the perspective of an epidemiologist, a pastor’s wife, and a Christian on my social media blog called Friendly Neighbor Epidemiologist. “Friendly” because I like to help and talk, maybe too much at times. “Neighbor” because I knew from the beginning that a virus-like COVID-19 would require us to take the notion of ‘love thy neighbor’ seriously. COVID-19’s nasty way of spreading prior to knowing you’re sick and highly contagious nature makes it a key example for an epidemiologist of how an individual’s behaviors impact the population’s health. In other words, we are all connected and depend on one another with this type of virus.

What I have seen over the past year is that dependency becomes marred with messy threads of Christian nationalism cloaked in “faith over fear,” individualistic definitions of freedoms and allegiances, racism, privilege, and power. Although we know who the most vulnerable are to COVID-19, the consequences of what I wrote in the previous sentence have resulted in many simply walking by.

Now, through extraordinary scientific efforts built over decades of work, we finally have life-saving vaccines that enable us to strive for herd immunity and find our way out of this pandemic. Yes, vaccines are about protecting us as individuals. But, more importantly, as Christians, they help protect others. Equivalent to masks, distancing, and other precautions, vaccines are a tangible way to ‘love thy neighbor’ and show solidarity to those around us – especially the vulnerable. That’s the point of herd immunity—of getting to a point with a disease where the masses protect the margins. In our Good Samaritan story, vaccines are another way for us to choose not to walk by. This is where we run into a challenge (or opportunity, depending on your vantage point).

Because of these vaccines, we in the US are starting to feel as if “normalcy” is within reach. That’s not the case everywhere, though. Higher-income countries have gobbled up 80% of the world’s vaccines with only 0.3% going to low-income countries. Global cases are accelerating more than we have seen over the past year. The pandemic is estimated to double the number at risk of starvation and push an additional 42-66 million children into extreme poverty, with the poorest countries impacted the most.

In the United States, food insecurity has doubled from 10% of all US households to 23%, with children being 1.5 times more likely to bear this burden. Why do I bring up stats and numbers? Because they represent the margins. These are the same countries and communities that do not have equitable vaccine access and are being slammed with COVID-19 case rates. And the margins matter to God.

From the beginning, God gave special instructions to His people to not hoard and to leave enough food for sojourners in the land. If you trace that thread through the rest of the story, you’ll hear about the margins again from the prophets in Isaiah’s proclamation that true fasting and obedience is sharing, clothing, providing, not turning away and as Amos’ harkening in the songs of justice rolling down like a river, righteousness like a never-ending stream. Then we finally get to Jesus bursting on the scene in his opening sermon: “For the Spirit of the Lord has anointed me to preach good news to the poor, proclaiming liberty to the captives” (Luke 4:18).

Let’s trace that same freedom sentiment through the Apostle Paul’s words in Galatians, “It is for [that] freedom we have been set free” to do what the entire law can be summed up in – “Love your neighbor as yourself”. And again, to the Corinthian church, “At the present time, your plenty will supply what they need so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality.”

Why is this talked about so much in scripture? If the foot of the Cross is equal ground for all, why talk so much about the margins, about wealth, and sharing? Perhaps because God knew we would need to be continually reminded that His economy works differently than ours does. I think He also probably knew we would have a hard time doing that with our proclivity toward individualistic thinking. “Did God really say?...” is a strong pull for all of us and can easily excuse a me-first mentality for individuals and systems.

In God’s global economy, however, there’s no scarcity or myopic mentalities. There’s not only an equal distribution of provisions, but there’s also more than enough because we have a God who can make all things abound at all times, who can do more than we can ever ask or imagine, and who can send fed people home with a multiplied basket of bread and fish. He is a God of just distribution and overabundance-enoughness. That’s the system He designed. But, in a world that fails to live by these ideals, our God has a particular concern for the margins.

This brings me back to vaccines and the Good Samaritan story. I think Jesus knew we would need a story that forces us to see humanity through the lens of the Cross where all are equal – all nations, countries, people. That Cross now commissions us as ambassadors and His workmanship to make that holy work a reality.

That lens helps us see where that equity is lacking (kind of like an epidemiologist) in the here-and-not-yet. Then we have a choice. Do we walk by? Do we understand when we feed the hungry, clothe the needy, take care of the sick, get our vaccines and advocate for just distribution for our global neighbors, we not only participate in God’s economy of abundance— we say a resounding ‘yes and amen’ to the God of multiplied baskets, rivers of justice, and herd immunity.

We do not walk by.

God has always been about the margins. I want to be too.








Emily R. Smith, Ph.D., MSPH is currently an Assistant Professor of Epidemiology at Baylor University with research areas of epidemiology, global health, global surgery, pediatrics, and health concerns. Dr. Smith has previous professional experience as an Adjunct Professor of Global Health, Duke Global Health Institute, Duke University.
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Post by: patrick jane on June 03, 2021, 11:31:28 am
I'M BACK! The Fight Against Big Tech Continues as Fauci's Emails Drop | Louder with Crowder


Crowder is BACK on YouTube, and Big Tech doesn’t know what’s coming for it. We take another look at Fauci’s emails. These managed to be worse than the day before. Also, we expose the TRUTH on why Democrats want to abolish to filibuster. All while we kick off CULTURAL APPROPRIATION MONTH by saluting Japan!


1 hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzatLgoeAlM
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on June 05, 2021, 05:45:43 pm
How Movies Prepared Us For Coronavirus



In moments of crisis like this one, it helps to look to our favorite stories for ways to cope. Let’s see how film helps us understand what it means to be alone, how to hold leaders accountable, and what we can do to protect one another.


8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoL9uH0XSAY
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: patrick jane on June 17, 2021, 03:10:08 pm
Dr. Fauci Says The Risks From The Delta Variant Underscore The Importance Of Vaccines


https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/06/17/1007493934/the-delta-variant-is-the-most-contagious-of-covid-19-strains



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared that the variant of coronavirus first detected in India is a variant of concern, meaning it poses a significant threat to those who are not vaccinated.

The Delta variant, also known as B.1.617.2, is the most contagious yet. The CDC estimates that it may be responsible for nearly 10% of all new COVID-19 infections in the United States. In some Western U.S. states, the variant may be responsible for nearly 20% of cases.

That risk has public health officials stressing the benefits of vaccines, which have been shown to be highly effective against the Delta variant. In one recent study, researchers in the U.K. found that a two-dose regimen of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease from the Delta variant.

"If you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "If you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease."

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition on Thursday, Fauci elaborated on what led the CDC to designate the Delta variant a variant of concern, what the science says so far about how long protection lasts from vaccines and whether he's worried about a new surge.

Here are highlights of the conversation, edited in parts for clarity and length.

Interview Highlights
On what prompted the CDC to elevate the Delta variant to a new level of concern

Some studies have recently come out essentially documenting that indeed, this particular variant does transmit significantly more readily between people and among people than the virus that is now the dominant virus, which is the Alpha variant, which is the one that's more dominant in the United States. In addition, a very recent data — literally yesterday and the day before — shows that, in fact, it is a more dangerous virus in the sense that it can potentially make people more severely ill. So the combination of more transmissibility and a greater severity of disease appropriately prompted the CDC to elevate it to a variant of concern.

On his concerns that the variant could make people more sick as COVID-19 restrictions are lifted nationwide

I'm not concerned about the people who are vaccinated because the good news about all this among the seriousness of the situation with regard to the variant is that the vaccines work really quite well. A recent study came out showing that against any clinical disease with 617, which is the Delta variant, that the efficacy or the effectiveness is somewhere close to 90% — 88, 89, 90%. Importantly, the protection against severe disease resulting in hospitalization and death is over 90%, 93, 94%. So if you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated, because if you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease. The Brits are having a very difficult time with this. They have about 90 plus percent of their isolates are the Delta. As you mentioned correctly just a moment ago, about 10% of our isolates are Delta. We want to make sure we don't get into the same situation that people in the U.K. did.

On what we know now about how long vaccine protection lasts

We don't know for sure. We certainly know that it's several months up to a year, because people who have been vaccinated early on, the original people who were vaccinated, seemed to continue to have protection. What we do is we monitor cohorts of people who have been in clinical trial, both for laboratory indication of durability, of protection, as well as clinical indication. For example, if we start seeing breakthrough infections, there's a thing called correlate of immunity, which is a laboratory test that you could follow. And as that goes below a certain threshold, then you know you're going to have to give someone a booster. So we're preparing to boost people, but we don't know at exactly what point we will have to do that. But we're doing tests right now, clinical trials to determine various options for boosting people.

The federal government has agreed to buy 200 million more doses of the Moderna vaccine to prepare for necessity for boosters. Can you explain how that will work?

It's going to be a combination of the need — potential need — for boosters, but also for the pediatric population, because as you know now, we've shown that at least with one candidate and likely more to come, that 12 to 15 year olds can be vaccinated. We are doing studies now to determine the proper dosage and the proper regimen for children from 12 to nine, and then nine to six and then six to two. So we have the, I wouldn't say challenge, but at least facing ahead for the likelihood — of more than just the likelihood, I'm sure we'll be doing it — of vaccinating children as well as possibly needing to give people boosters. They'll be a varying requirement for boosters. For example, it is likely that the elderly who have less of a powerful immune system than people who are younger, those people would likely need a booster longer than that. So we're looking at this. Hopefully we'll get the right answer, which I believe we will and will be prepared for it.

Right now, 51% of eligible peaceful people nationwide are fully vaccinated. But we're seeing people traveling. Could we see another surge?

Well, not among vaccinated people. You know, we have a disparity throughout the country. Certain states have low level. They will be at risk.

The audio for this story was produced and edited by Nina Kravinsky and Jill Craig.


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Post by: truthjourney on June 17, 2021, 06:31:22 pm
Dr. Fauci Says The Risks From The Delta Variant Underscore The Importance Of Vaccines


https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/06/17/1007493934/the-delta-variant-is-the-most-contagious-of-covid-19-strains



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared that the variant of coronavirus first detected in India is a variant of concern, meaning it poses a significant threat to those who are not vaccinated.

The Delta variant, also known as B.1.617.2, is the most contagious yet. The CDC estimates that it may be responsible for nearly 10% of all new COVID-19 infections in the United States. In some Western U.S. states, the variant may be responsible for nearly 20% of cases.

That risk has public health officials stressing the benefits of vaccines, which have been shown to be highly effective against the Delta variant. In one recent study, researchers in the U.K. found that a two-dose regimen of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease from the Delta variant.

"If you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "If you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease."

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition on Thursday, Fauci elaborated on what led the CDC to designate the Delta variant a variant of concern, what the science says so far about how long protection lasts from vaccines and whether he's worried about a new surge.

Here are highlights of the conversation, edited in parts for clarity and length.

Interview Highlights
On what prompted the CDC to elevate the Delta variant to a new level of concern

Some studies have recently come out essentially documenting that indeed, this particular variant does transmit significantly more readily between people and among people than the virus that is now the dominant virus, which is the Alpha variant, which is the one that's more dominant in the United States. In addition, a very recent data — literally yesterday and the day before — shows that, in fact, it is a more dangerous virus in the sense that it can potentially make people more severely ill. So the combination of more transmissibility and a greater severity of disease appropriately prompted the CDC to elevate it to a variant of concern.

On his concerns that the variant could make people more sick as COVID-19 restrictions are lifted nationwide

I'm not concerned about the people who are vaccinated because the good news about all this among the seriousness of the situation with regard to the variant is that the vaccines work really quite well. A recent study came out showing that against any clinical disease with 617, which is the Delta variant, that the efficacy or the effectiveness is somewhere close to 90% — 88, 89, 90%. Importantly, the protection against severe disease resulting in hospitalization and death is over 90%, 93, 94%. So if you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated, because if you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease. The Brits are having a very difficult time with this. They have about 90 plus percent of their isolates are the Delta. As you mentioned correctly just a moment ago, about 10% of our isolates are Delta. We want to make sure we don't get into the same situation that people in the U.K. did.

On what we know now about how long vaccine protection lasts

We don't know for sure. We certainly know that it's several months up to a year, because people who have been vaccinated early on, the original people who were vaccinated, seemed to continue to have protection. What we do is we monitor cohorts of people who have been in clinical trial, both for laboratory indication of durability, of protection, as well as clinical indication. For example, if we start seeing breakthrough infections, there's a thing called correlate of immunity, which is a laboratory test that you could follow. And as that goes below a certain threshold, then you know you're going to have to give someone a booster. So we're preparing to boost people, but we don't know at exactly what point we will have to do that. But we're doing tests right now, clinical trials to determine various options for boosting people.

The federal government has agreed to buy 200 million more doses of the Moderna vaccine to prepare for necessity for boosters. Can you explain how that will work?

It's going to be a combination of the need — potential need — for boosters, but also for the pediatric population, because as you know now, we've shown that at least with one candidate and likely more to come, that 12 to 15 year olds can be vaccinated. We are doing studies now to determine the proper dosage and the proper regimen for children from 12 to nine, and then nine to six and then six to two. So we have the, I wouldn't say challenge, but at least facing ahead for the likelihood — of more than just the likelihood, I'm sure we'll be doing it — of vaccinating children as well as possibly needing to give people boosters. They'll be a varying requirement for boosters. For example, it is likely that the elderly who have less of a powerful immune system than people who are younger, those people would likely need a booster longer than that. So we're looking at this. Hopefully we'll get the right answer, which I believe we will and will be prepared for it.

Right now, 51% of eligible peaceful people nationwide are fully vaccinated. But we're seeing people traveling. Could we see another surge?

Well, not among vaccinated people. You know, we have a disparity throughout the country. Certain states have low level. They will be at risk.

The audio for this story was produced and edited by Nina Kravinsky and Jill Craig.

Fauci is a quack. And I've seen him doing the hidden hand Masonic thing. That right there is a huge RED FLAG not to listen to that man or take him seriously and certainly not to trust him. Hidden hand=hidden agenda. Need I say more?
Title: Re: CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE
Post by: Bladerunner on June 18, 2021, 09:24:43 pm
Dr. Fauci Says The Risks From The Delta Variant Underscore The Importance Of Vaccines


https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/06/17/1007493934/the-delta-variant-is-the-most-contagious-of-covid-19-strains



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared that the variant of coronavirus first detected in India is a variant of concern, meaning it poses a significant threat to those who are not vaccinated.

The Delta variant, also known as B.1.617.2, is the most contagious yet. The CDC estimates that it may be responsible for nearly 10% of all new COVID-19 infections in the United States. In some Western U.S. states, the variant may be responsible for nearly 20% of cases.

That risk has public health officials stressing the benefits of vaccines, which have been shown to be highly effective against the Delta variant. In one recent study, researchers in the U.K. found that a two-dose regimen of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease from the Delta variant.

"If you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "If you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease."

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition on Thursday, Fauci elaborated on what led the CDC to designate the Delta variant a variant of concern, what the science says so far about how long protection lasts from vaccines and whether he's worried about a new surge.

Here are highlights of the conversation, edited in parts for clarity and length.

Interview Highlights
On what prompted the CDC to elevate the Delta variant to a new level of concern

Some studies have recently come out essentially documenting that indeed, this particular variant does transmit significantly more readily between people and among people than the virus that is now the dominant virus, which is the Alpha variant, which is the one that's more dominant in the United States. In addition, a very recent data — literally yesterday and the day before — shows that, in fact, it is a more dangerous virus in the sense that it can potentially make people more severely ill. So the combination of more transmissibility and a greater severity of disease appropriately prompted the CDC to elevate it to a variant of concern.

On his concerns that the variant could make people more sick as COVID-19 restrictions are lifted nationwide

I'm not concerned about the people who are vaccinated because the good news about all this among the seriousness of the situation with regard to the variant is that the vaccines work really quite well. A recent study came out showing that against any clinical disease with 617, which is the Delta variant, that the efficacy or the effectiveness is somewhere close to 90% — 88, 89, 90%. Importantly, the protection against severe disease resulting in hospitalization and death is over 90%, 93, 94%. So if you are vaccinated, you're going to be protected, which is another very good reason to encourage people strongly to get vaccinated, because if you are not vaccinated, you are at risk of getting infected with the virus that now spreads more rapidly and gives more serious disease. The Brits are having a very difficult time with this. They have about 90 plus percent of their isolates are the Delta. As you mentioned correctly just a moment ago, about 10% of our isolates are Delta. We want to make sure we don't get into the same situation that people in the U.K. did.

On what we know now about how long vaccine protection lasts

We don't know for sure. We certainly know that it's several months up to a year, because people who have been vaccinated early on, the original people who were vaccinated, seemed to continue to have protection. What we do is we monitor cohorts of people who have been in clinical trial, both for laboratory indication of durability, of protection, as well as clinical indication. For example, if we start seeing breakthrough infections, there's a thing called correlate of immunity, which is a laboratory test that you could follow. And as that goes below a certain threshold, then you know you're going to have to give someone a booster. So we're preparing to boost people, but we don't know at exactly what point we will have to do that. But we're doing tests right now, clinical trials to determine various options for boosting people.

The federal government has agreed to buy 200 million more doses of the Moderna vaccine to prepare for necessity for boosters. Can you explain how that will work?

It's going to be a combination of the need — potential need — for boosters, but also for the pediatric population, because as you know now, we've shown that at least with one candidate and likely more to come, that 12 to 15 year olds can be vaccinated. We are doing studies now to determine the proper dosage and the proper regimen for children from 12 to nine, and then nine to six and then six to two. So we have the, I wouldn't say challenge, but at least facing ahead for the likelihood — of more than just the likelihood, I'm sure we'll be doing it — of vaccinating children as well as possibly needing to give people boosters. They'll be a varying requirement for boosters. For example, it is likely that the elderly who have less of a powerful immune system than people who are younger, those people would likely need a booster longer than that. So we're looking at this. Hopefully we'll get the right answer, which I believe we will and will be prepared for it.

Right now, 51% of eligible peaceful people nationwide are fully vaccinated. But we're seeing people traveling. Could we see another surge?

Well, not among vaccinated people. You know, we have a disparity throughout the country. Certain states have low level. They will be at risk.

The audio for this story was produced and edited by Nina Kravinsky and Jill Craig.

Fauci is a quack. And I've seen him doing the hidden hand Masonic thing. That right there is a huge RED FLAG not to listen to that man or take him seriously and certainly not to trust him. Hidden hand=hidden agenda. Need I say more?

It is good not to trust Him.

Changing the subject.

The Pale Horse is GREEN and represents Death and Hell!.

Death of the Body and Hell for the soul (spirit).

Most of the countries that practice Islam call themselves Muslims and fly a flag with Green in it. Most of the time, the Green is a band. Now, the other day, the BLM flag had a green strip in it and then to cap that all off; the NEW GAY PRIDE Flag also included a Green Stripe.

A little ODD don't you think?

Blade