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Title: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Olde Tymer on January 18, 2020, 07:49:09 am
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If we're not careful, the time element can become a red herring while the real issue-- the issue that matters most --is Jonah's resurrection.

● Matt 12:40 . . Just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 That should be accompanied by this next passage so there's no mistaking what Jesus was talking about.

● John 2:18-22 . .Then the Jews demanded of him: What miraculous sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?

. . . Jesus answered them: Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days. The Jews replied: It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?

. . . But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the Scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
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Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Olde Tymer on January 18, 2020, 07:49:34 am
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● Jonah 1:17 . . The Lord provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights.


FAQ: Was Jonah alive in the fish?

A: Yes. (Jonah 2:1)

FAQ: The whole time?

A: No; and in point of fact; unless Jonah was deceased at some point, then his adventure tells us little of any real significance.

FAQ: So you think Jonah died in the fish?

A: Jonah 2:5-7 strongly suggests to me that he drowned prior to being swallowed by the big fish; which fits perfectly with the fact that Jesus was dead before his body was entombed; viz: neither man was buried alive.

Jonah's prayer from within the fish speaks of a prayer that he prayed while drowning, and also about a prayer that he prayed while incarcerated in sheol; a total of three prayers; each one prayed from three separate locations and under three different circumstances: in the sea, in sheol, and in the fish.
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Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Olde Tymer on January 18, 2020, 07:50:32 am
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At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place called sheol (Jonah 2:2) which he sited at the roots of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well; the roots of the mountains aren't located in the tummies of fish, no; they're located down deep in the Earth. So, the only way that Jonah could possibly be at the roots of the mountains while in the belly of a fish at the same time was for the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.

And then there's Jesus . . .

● Matt 12:40 . . As Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Now when you think about it; Jesus' corpse was never in the heart of the Earth. It wasn't even in the Earth's soil. His corpse was laid to rest on the surface of the Earth in a rock-hewn tomb.

So the only way that Jesus could possibly be in a tomb on the surface of the Earth while in the heart of the Earth at the same time; was for the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.
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Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Olde Tymer on January 18, 2020, 07:51:13 am
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Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

● Jonah 2:6 . . You brought my life up from the pit, O Lord my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse speaks of putrefaction.

The very same Hebrew word is located in Ps 16:8-10 --which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction; viz: Jonah 2:6 tells of the prophet's flesh just as Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31 tell of Christ's flesh. In other words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's resurrection; which is precisely the sign that Jesus intended.

So then, just as Jonah's soul was not left at the bottoms of the mountains, Christ's soul was not left in the heart of the earth. And just as Jonah's body was not left to decompose in the fish, neither was Christ's body left to decompose in the tomb. And just as Jonah came back from his grave within three days and nights, so Jesus came back from his grave within three days and nights.

If none of this were so, then Jonah's experience would be a pretty useless parallel to Christ's.
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Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Bladerunner on January 18, 2020, 10:00:05 am
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Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

● Jonah 2:6 . . You brought my life up from the pit, O Lord my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse speaks of putrefaction.

The very same Hebrew word is located in Ps 16:8-10 --which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction; viz: Jonah 2:6 tells of the prophet's flesh just as Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31 tell of Christ's flesh. In other words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's resurrection; which is precisely the sign that Jesus intended.

So then, just as Jonah's soul was not left at the bottoms of the mountains, Christ's soul was not left in the heart of the earth. And just as Jonah's body was not left to decompose in the fish, neither was Christ's body left to decompose in the tomb. And just as Jonah came back from his grave within three days and nights, so Jesus came back from his grave within three days and nights.

If none of this were so, then Jonah's experience would be a pretty useless parallel to Christ's.
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BOY, you like to sling that word  resurrection around to everyone.  Jonah was not dead, he was not in a grave. He was in the belly of a Big fish where one might expect putrification of stomach contents to be.., Yes, it was was a hell (of a place) for Jonah to be He was alive to record what he was seeing, hearing, smelling, etc.

Jonah was Not RESURRECTED!.....

BLade
Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Olde Tymer on January 18, 2020, 11:11:13 am
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Jonah was Not RESURRECTED!


Everybody starts off with the wrong idea about Jonah; and it's not an easy error to correct. You don't see his death and resurrection now, but you will; it's just a matter of time.
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Title: Re: Jonah & Christ
Post by: Bladerunner on January 18, 2020, 10:07:47 pm
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Jonah was Not RESURRECTED!


Everybody starts off with the wrong idea about Jonah; and it's not an easy error to correct. You don't see his death and resurrection now, but you will; it's just a matter of time.
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Yes, It is obvious you do.

Blade