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Title: What are good works?
Post by: Lori Bolinger on January 16, 2020, 09:31:31 am
I was reviewing my notes this morning for what good works are according to scripture....do you see belief listed as a good work?

The first thing we notice is that God created good works for us to do before hand and we should be walking in those good works. (Ephesians 2:10)  So what then are these good works?  Let’s start with Ephesians 1:4 (HCSB) For He chose us in Him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love.  Notice that here, we are chosen before to be holy and blameless...could this be the works we were created for?  To be holy and blameless.  We are told in Matthew 3:10 to produce good fruits.  (Matthew 7:17-19; Matthew 12:33; Matthew 13:8; Matthew 13:23; Mark 4:8; Luke 3:9; Luke 6:43) Likewise all the works Jesus did were “good works”. (John 10:32; John 10:33)  Romans 7:18 says that there is nothing good in our flesh.  Romans 8:5 (Galatians 5:17) tells us that those who live according to the flesh do the things of the flesh.  Those who live according to the Spirit do the things of the Spirit.  Some of the works of the flesh that we are to avoid include sexual immorality, impurity, idolatry, sorcery, jealousy, fits of anger, strife, divisions, envy, drunkenness, drinking parties, coveting, slander, pride, foolishness, lusts, lies, greed, fortune telling, and swindling. (I Corinthians 6:18; Galatians 5:19-21; I Peter 4:3; Mark 7:21-23; Galatians 5:20-21; Romans 1:24-32; I John 3:4; James 4:1-17; Ephesians 5:18; Galatians 5:16-26; I Timothy 1:10; I Corinthians 6:9-11; II Chronicles 33:6; John 8:44; Matthew 5:28)  Where this is not a complete list of fleshly works, the list of good works is not all the good works either.  The good works include; gentleness, self control, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, serving one another, give without thought of reward, righteousness, praying, truth, compassion, humility, denying the flesh, purity, knowledge, and holiness. (Galatians 5:22-23; Galatians 5:6; Galatians 5:13; Matthew 6:1-34; Romans 5:1; Romans 14:17; Romans 15:30; I Corinthians 13; Ephesians 5:9; Colossians 3:12; I Thessalonians 1:6; Romans 13:14; II Corinthians 6:6; Ephesians 4:24; Ephesians 4:32; Philippians 2:3)
   In Matthew 26:10 (Mark 14:6) we see the woman who anointed Christ’s feet with her tears and dried them with her hair and anointed them with expensive oils.  The KJV calls her actions a good work.  Something that is praiseworthy by virtue of it’s beauty and purity.  We know we are not to grow weary of doing good. (Galatians 6:9)  How can we not grow weary?  When we feel ourselves beginning to grow weary, what can we do?  We can wait on the Lord (Isaiah 40:31) fear God and trust in Him, (Luke 18:18) and renounce the secret and shameful ways of the flesh, allow no deceit or distorting of God’s word, openly proclaim the truth. (II Corinthians 4:1-2)  We can live in the extraordinary power of the indwelling Holy Spirit, allowing Him to renew us from the inside, while focusing our attentions on the things that are eternal and yet to come rather than on the temporal things in the moment. (II Corinthians 4:7-18)  Likewise, when we feel ourselves growing weary we can do the things that please God so that in due time we will reap the eternal rewards that God promises. (Galatians 6:8-10)  We allow Christ to be our example and remember how much He endured.  In this we consider Christ and fix our eyes on Him. (Hebrews 12:2-4)  If we are righteous, we will hold to our right way, the imitation of Christ while cleaning our hands in the truth of Christ. (Job 17:9) Finally we learn that the good things that God gives are satisfying and in that we find strength. (Psalms 103:5; I Timothy 6:6)
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: Bladerunner on January 16, 2020, 10:28:37 am
I was reviewing my notes this morning for what good works are according to scripture....do you see belief listed as a good work?

The first thing we notice is that God created good works for us to do before hand and we should be walking in those good works. (Ephesians 2:10)  So what then are these good works?  Let’s start with Ephesians 1:4 (HCSB) For He chose us in Him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love.  Notice that here, we are chosen before to be holy and blameless...could this be the works we were created for?  To be holy and blameless.  We are told in Matthew 3:10 to produce good fruits.  (Matthew 7:17-19; Matthew 12:33; Matthew 13:8; Matthew 13:23; Mark 4:8; Luke 3:9; Luke 6:43) Likewise all the works Jesus did were “good works”. (John 10:32; John 10:33)  Romans 7:18 says that there is nothing good in our flesh.  Romans 8:5 (Galatians 5:17) tells us that those who live according to the flesh do the things of the flesh.  Those who live according to the Spirit do the things of the Spirit.  Some of the works of the flesh that we are to avoid include sexual immorality, impurity, idolatry, sorcery, jealousy, fits of anger, strife, divisions, envy, drunkenness, drinking parties, coveting, slander, pride, foolishness, lusts, lies, greed, fortune telling, and swindling. (I Corinthians 6:18; Galatians 5:19-21; I Peter 4:3; Mark 7:21-23; Galatians 5:20-21; Romans 1:24-32; I John 3:4; James 4:1-17; Ephesians 5:18; Galatians 5:16-26; I Timothy 1:10; I Corinthians 6:9-11; II Chronicles 33:6; John 8:44; Matthew 5:28)  Where this is not a complete list of fleshly works, the list of good works is not all the good works either.  The good works include; gentleness, self control, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, serving one another, give without thought of reward, righteousness, praying, truth, compassion, humility, denying the flesh, purity, knowledge, and holiness. (Galatians 5:22-23; Galatians 5:6; Galatians 5:13; Matthew 6:1-34; Romans 5:1; Romans 14:17; Romans 15:30; I Corinthians 13; Ephesians 5:9; Colossians 3:12; I Thessalonians 1:6; Romans 13:14; II Corinthians 6:6; Ephesians 4:24; Ephesians 4:32; Philippians 2:3)
   In Matthew 26:10 (Mark 14:6) we see the woman who anointed Christ’s feet with her tears and dried them with her hair and anointed them with expensive oils.  The KJV calls her actions a good work.  Something that is praiseworthy by virtue of it’s beauty and purity.  We know we are not to grow weary of doing good. (Galatians 6:9)  How can we not grow weary?  When we feel ourselves beginning to grow weary, what can we do?  We can wait on the Lord (Isaiah 40:31) fear God and trust in Him, (Luke 18:18) and renounce the secret and shameful ways of the flesh, allow no deceit or distorting of God’s word, openly proclaim the truth. (II Corinthians 4:1-2)  We can live in the extraordinary power of the indwelling Holy Spirit, allowing Him to renew us from the inside, while focusing our attentions on the things that are eternal and yet to come rather than on the temporal things in the moment. (II Corinthians 4:7-18)  Likewise, when we feel ourselves growing weary we can do the things that please God so that in due time we will reap the eternal rewards that God promises. (Galatians 6:8-10)  We allow Christ to be our example and remember how much He endured.  In this we consider Christ and fix our eyes on Him. (Hebrews 12:2-4)  If we are righteous, we will hold to our right way, the imitation of Christ while cleaning our hands in the truth of Christ. (Job 17:9) Finally we learn that the good things that God gives are satisfying and in that we find strength. (Psalms 103:5; I Timothy 6:6)

your question:"do you see belief listed as a good work"

NO,,,,for if belief is listed as a good "WORKS" then Faith is also a good WORKS and the Bible strictly says NO to Works but rather Salvation by Faith(belief) Only. Work comes after Justification.

My question to you..Is this what you are teaching/preaching at your church's congregation?

Blade
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: Lori Bolinger on January 16, 2020, 11:26:48 am
I have repeatedly told you that I don't teach or preach in my church so why would you ask me if this is what I teach/preach?
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: Bladerunner on January 17, 2020, 07:40:16 pm
I have repeatedly told you that I don't teach or preach in my church so why would you ask me if this is what I teach/preach?

Really?

Blade
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on January 17, 2020, 08:40:43 pm
I guess I am slow, but after reading all of this I still have no clue what you are supposed to use to determine if you have done "good work"   

I do have a question of curiosity. If you do not teach or preach at your church, what do you do?
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: patrick jane on January 17, 2020, 10:45:44 pm
Here's one verse of many that contain good works.

1 Corinthians 13:13 KJV - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: truthjourney on January 17, 2020, 11:32:12 pm
I was reviewing my notes this morning for what good works are according to scripture....do you see belief listed as a good work?

I think that belief or believing is a good action that begins in our hearts. It's more an internal action than a good work outwardly. We have a choice whether to believe or not.I think faith and belief are very closely connected. Faith is a gift from God and can increase our belief. Faith is also increased by hearing the word of God. The power of the Holy Spirit can increase our belief and our faith.

I hope what I've said makes sense. I would like to say more but just too tired right now.
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on January 17, 2020, 11:46:29 pm
Ah, okay, I think I am beginning to see the way to read looking for "Good Works"   But if you are in your own journey to faith and believe are you not also on a journey of good works
Title: Re: What are good works?
Post by: patrick jane on October 02, 2020, 11:47:57 am
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