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Christian Theology with DOUG and TED T. => Study to Shew Thyself Approved Unto God. . . => Topic started by: doug on September 24, 2019, 07:59:14 am

Title: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: doug on September 24, 2019, 07:59:14 am
John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

 This was spoken to the disciples; there is nothing in this verse that could substantiate applying this to the church, the body of Christ today.

Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 The time frame of this is the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God consists of a heavenly and earthly component (1 Chronicles 29:11). The earthly kingdom is in view here based on Matthew 16:19 saying it is on earth. During the earthly kingdom Peter will be given power to remit sins just as the other disciples.
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: Bladerunner on September 24, 2019, 10:37:56 pm
John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

 This was spoken to the disciples; there is nothing in this verse that could substantiate applying this to the church, the body of Christ today.

Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 The time frame of this is the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God consists of a heavenly and earthly component (1 Chronicles 29:11). The earthly kingdom is in view here based on Matthew 16:19 saying it is on earth. During the earthly kingdom Peter will be given power to remit sins just as the other disciples.

There has been NO earthly Kingdom, YET!

Blade
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: doug on September 25, 2019, 02:07:59 pm
The earthly kingdom will be established in the future; after the tribulation period Christ will come and establish his kingdom on earth.
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: TheWordSmith on November 20, 2019, 07:36:24 am
John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

 This was spoken to the disciples; there is nothing in this verse that could substantiate applying this to the church, the body of Christ today.

Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 The time frame of this is the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God consists of a heavenly and earthly component (1 Chronicles 29:11). The earthly kingdom is in view here based on Matthew 16:19 saying it is on earth. During the earthly kingdom Peter will be given power to remit sins just as the other disciples.
The passage below was written to any man
1 John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: doug on November 21, 2019, 08:18:57 am
It is my understanding that 1 John is written to Israel who in the future will be enduring in the tribulation.
The sin unto death could well be taking the mark of the beast.
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: Bladerunner on November 21, 2019, 07:37:10 pm
It is my understanding that 1 John is written to Israel who in the future will be enduring in the tribulation.
The sin unto death could well be taking the mark of the beast.

John 20:20-23 was Jesus speaking to his disciples about receiving the Holy Spirit. and giving them the ability to forgive sins and to call those who are sinning OUT.

Blade
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: patrick jane on February 24, 2020, 08:16:38 am
Good thread
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: patrick jane on July 16, 2020, 10:30:27 am
Good thread
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Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: Jesus Truth on September 04, 2020, 04:57:17 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH TODAY
Post by: patrick jane on October 22, 2020, 04:55:03 pm
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