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Title: End Times - Tracking The Signs
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Post by: patrick jane on May 14, 2019, 09:58:36 am
Iran-US tensions are reaching new heights – and neither is likely to blink


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/13/iran-us-tensions-rise-crisis-sabotage-two-saudi-tankers



Long-term standoff threatens to turn into crisis after alleged sabotage of two Saudi tankers


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Iranian demonstrators burn a makeshift US flag during a rally in Tehran last week. Photograph: STR/AFP/Getty Images



A festering four-year war, crippling sanctions, threats to maritime oil trade and a US naval battlegroup steaming for the Persian Gulf. Such developments were troubling enough, before two Saudi tankers were reportedly sabotaged off the UAE coast on Sunday – a development set to ratchet tensions between Tehran and Washington to new and combustible highs.

With Riyadh claiming significant hull damage to its ships and the UAE claiming the damage was done inside its territorial waters, what last week was a looming standoff is now a real-time crisis with potent implications for both global energy security and regional stability.

Throughout Donald Trump’s presidency, staring down Iran has been top of the agenda among many to have passed through the revolving door of his inner circle. For the current uber-hawks, the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, and the national security adviser, John Bolton, there has hardly been a higher calling. Both have been pivotal in focusing Trump on Iran, and imposing new comprehensive sanctions on its economy. And both drove the bellicose rhetoric that last week spelled out the same scenario to which the region awoke on Monday.


According to Riyadh, one of the “sabotaged” tankers was en route to a Saudi port to upload oil to be exported to the US. Stopping such a shipment would be consistent with an act of revenge for crippling Iranian exports and for making good on threats to disrupt global energy routes – although on Monday Iran vehemently denied playing a role.

Bolton’s prediction of a “credible threat” from Iran, or its proxies, to the oil interests of Washington, or its allies, however looks prophetic in the royal courts of the Gulf. And what regional officials are calling a “terrorist attack” is certain to similarly energise a White House that has at times appeared to be itching for a confrontation with a foe it now faces in most corners of the Middle East.

Iran has steadily become the sum of all fears in the eyes of the US and its regional allies; its creeping influence across the Arab world, belligerence towards Israel and perceived readiness to act on its threats to a decades old regional order, which – not without irony – was upended by the US invasion of Iraq.

Trump’s backers ignore the Bush administration’s intervention, blaming instead Barack Obama’s pivot towards Iran and his signature nuclear deal for kickstarting Iran’s adventurism. While Obama’s gestures were hardly seen in Tehran as trust-building measures and did nothing to slow a regional consolidation, Iran’s ascendancy started before him and has continued since.


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Members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard arrive for a ceremony marking the 40th anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution in February 2019. Photograph: Abedin Taherkenareh/EPA



Tehran’s view has been rather different. It views the US as a capricious actor whose presence and interventions has destabilised the region for decades. In Trump’s America, it sees a player with the same sort of ideological zeal that it is accused of wielding itself. A self appointed global sheriff not worthy of the badge and to whom it can never bow.

The ill-fated reality of 2003 gave Tehran a bridgehead in Iraq and a springboard into Syria that, nearly eight years into the civil war, has brought the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps to within striking distance of Israel’s north. Iran’s proxies have also helped weigh down Saudi Arabia in Yemen, lay the foundations for a parallel state in Iraq and energise a still rumbling opposition movement in Shia-majority Bahrain.

The loaded geopolitics have rarely strayed far from oil though. And with Iran’s embattled economy dependent on oil exports and the US once again enthusiastic for Saudi crude, a flashpoint in the Strait of Hormuz, through which 35% of the world’s oil is shipped, has long been likely.

Tensions have been boiling since the Trump administration’s decision to lift sanctions waivers from eight countries that import Iranian oil. The stated goal of this was to collapse Iran’s exports to “zero”. Exports had already taken a hit when Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal signed by his predecessor last November – partly in the hope of renegotiating a better deal. Ever since, Iran has prevaricated on its own commitment to a multilateral pact, which delivered revenue streams and global legitimacy, albeit briefly. Last week, Iran said it would no longer honour parts of the deal and had no interest in discussing a revised version.

 
Several things are abundantly clear though; sanctions, including banking restrictions, are hitting the Iranian economy hard, limiting its capacity to sustain its people, or allies, including Hezbollah in Lebanon, where fighters have taken substantial pay cuts in recent months. More importantly though, Iran cannot let itself be seen to capitulate to the US moves. To do so would risk far more than its post-2003 gains.

Washington appears to be betting on just such a surrender, and has pushed brinkmanship to its limits. On Monday, it warned US citizens in Iraq and elsewhere in the region to be vigilant. The risks of miscalculation on either side are higher than they’ve been in the past 16 years.























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Post by: patrick jane on May 14, 2019, 12:18:40 pm
US B-52 bombers send warning message to Iran


The State Department says Secretary Pompeo is meeting with the NATO secretary general and the foreign ministers from Germany, France and the U.K.; Rich Edson reports. #AmericasNewsroom #FoxNews

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Post by: patrick jane on June 11, 2019, 07:57:56 am
UNLOCKED: The BEAST of Revelation (2019) Documentary - Part 1


So, what is the Image of the Beast? Or his mark?  Rather, even more simply asked, who or what is the Beast?  The answers to these questions have been veiled from the masses and are more important than you know and it’s time they are revealed.   

Part 1 - Identity of The BEAST

Welcome to part one.  This series will be fast-paced and effective, to show you by the scriptures and world history, who or what the Beast of Revelation is, what the mark of the beast is, and related truths, which will help you properly understand the rest of the book of Revelation, so you and your family won’t be caught in the snare of the confusion of the End Times.


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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on June 11, 2019, 11:58:08 pm
UNLOCKED: The BEAST of Revelation (2019) Documentary - Part 1


So, what is the Image of the Beast? Or his mark?  Rather, even more simply asked, who or what is the Beast?  The answers to these questions have been veiled from the masses and are more important than you know and it’s time they are revealed.   

Part 1 - Identity of The BEAST

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This author must have had a Divine revelation to know what is not told to JOHN.   In Rev. 17:12.."And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

Of course if we interpret the Bible so we can make a statement instead of giving GOD's statements out for the recognition....SO SAD

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Post by: patrick jane on June 15, 2019, 12:14:30 pm
Tanker attacks in Gulf of Oman highlight point of leverage for Iran

Tensions are high in the Middle East after attacks on two oil tankers near the Persian Gulf that U.S. officials are blaming on Iran. U.S. sanctions on Iran already had raised the potential risk of a response in the region. Charlie D'Agata reports from along the Gulf of Oman and explains why this area is such a flashpoint.

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LONDON — Explosions crippled two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday in what the United States called “unprovoked attacks” by Iran, raising alarms about immediate security and potential military conflict in a vital passageway for a third of the world’s petroleum.

Iran called the accusations part of a campaign of American disinformation and “warmongering.”

The explosions forced the crews of both vessels to evacuate and left at least one ablaze, and hours later the causes were still under investigation. Yet the backdrop of steeply rising threats between President Trump and Iranian leaders gave the stricken ships a grave significance even before the facts became clear.

[Read: Operator says a ‘flying object’ struck one tanker, not a mine]

By afternoon, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that American intelligence agencies had concluded Tehran was behind the disabling of both ships. He pointed to the weapons used, the expertise and resources required and the similarity to other recent attacks attributed to Iran.

The most compelling evidence to support Mr. Pompeo’s claim was video footage released Thursday night by the United States Central Command. A military spokesman, Capt. Bill Urban, said the video showed an Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps patrol boat pulling up alongside the Kokuka Courageous, one of the stricken ships, several hours after the initial explosion, and removing an unexploded limpet mine in broad daylight.

Also on Thursday night, the United States military released two photographs of the ship’s hull, showing damage and what it said was likely the unexploded mine.

“Taken as a whole, these unprovoked attacks present a clear threat to international peace and security,” Mr. Pompeo told a news conference in Washington.

[More: “Iran did do it,” President Trump said in an interview Friday.]

Senior American officials had already blamed Iran for similar attacks last month against four tankers on the same waterway. Iranian officials, who denied any involvement in those attacks, also rejected assertions they were behind the events on Thursday and said Iran had been framed.

“Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what likely transpired this morning,” Mohammad Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister, wrote on Twitter. Mr. Pompeo, firing back at his news conference, said Mr. Zarif “may think this is funny, but no one else in the world does.”

The Kokuka Courageous was about 20 miles off the Iranian coast when it transmitted an emergency call for help after an initial explosion. When the crew surveyed the damage from the first explosion, they saw a second unexploded mine attached to the hull and evacuated the ship, according to the American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive intelligence matter.

The confrontation also played out at the United Nations in a meeting of the Security Council, where the acting United States ambassador, Jonathan Cohen, told other members that Iran was behind the attacks. Iran’s United Nations mission issued a statement afterward denouncing the “inflammatory remarks” by the American representative, calling them part of “another Iranophobic campaign” of disinformation.

“The U.S. and its regional allies must stop warmongering and put an end to mischievous plots as well as false flag operations in the region,” the Iranian statement said.

Earlier Thursday, the United Nations secretary general, António Guterres, expressed “deep concern” that the new episode might lead to a military escalation.

[Read more about the narrow waterway that is the world’s most important oil route.]

Besides its importance as a petroleum highway, the Persian Gulf also divides bitter and heavily armed rivals, with Iran on one side and the American-backed Arab monarchies of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates on the other.

The two sides have fought for years through surrogate forces in neighboring countries, including Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Bahrain. Saudi and Emirati forces have been battling directly for more than four years to roll back a takeover of Yemen by a faction aligned with Iran.

Anxieties over the shared dependence on the vulnerable Persian Gulf shipping lanes have always been central to their animosities, and a commitment to guaranteeing the flow of oil through the same channels is behind the substantial American military presence in the region.

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Iranian officials on Thursday suggested the new attacks might be the product of an elaborate conspiracy by their enemies, seemingly pointing to American allies like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates or Israel, which have long urged Washington to take a more muscular approach to Iran.

But many analysts said there was a growing consensus in the West that Iran had been behind last month’s attacks, which took place near the port of Fujairah in the United Arab Emirates. And they argued that Iran appeared to be seeking to demonstrate it could imperil the world’s oil markets, but without leaving the kind of fingerprints that could trigger American military retaliation.



“As long as there is significant ambiguity the attacks won’t produce a casus belli,” or cause for war, said Jack Watling, a researcher at the Royal United Services Institute in London. “But Iran is demonstrating its capabilities. It is saying, ‘We can impose a cost on our adversaries in this confrontation, and it will be high.’”

Crude oil prices rose more than 3 percent in response to the crippling of the two ships on Thursday, indirectly boosting Iran’s revenue as an oil producer.

The initial White House response on Thursday was measured. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, said Mr. Trump had been briefed and that the “U.S. government is providing assistance and will continue to assess the situation.”

It was only a few hours later that Mr. Pompeo publicly blamed Iran.

The escalation came against the backdrop of a visit to Iran by the prime minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, who was hoping to de-escalate tensions between Tehran and Washington and avert any “accidental clashes.”

Mr. Abe was carrying a note from Mr. Trump to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, who rebuffed the overture. “I do not see Trump as worthy of any message exchange, and I do not have any reply for him, now or in future,” Mr. Khamenei said Thursday after meeting with Mr. Abe, according to the ayatollah’s website.

The animosity between Washington and Tehran began rising a year ago after President Trump withdrew the United States from a 2015 deal with international powers that limited Iran’s nuclear activity in exchange for eased economic sanctions on the country of 80 million people.

Then, laying out sweeping demands for Iran to alter its policies toward the region, Mr. Trump in April ratcheted up the pressure by imposing severe sanctions aimed at cutting off Iran’s exports of oil, the lifeblood of the now-struggling Iranian economy. He also designated Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, a part of the military, as a terrorist group.

In May, citing unspecified warnings of imminent Iranian attacks on American allies or interests, the Trump administration announced it was dispatching an aircraft carrier group to the Persian Gulf as a deterrent.

“If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter last month. “Never threaten the United States again!”




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Iranian leaders, in response, have threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, a potential Persian Gulf chokepoint. After complying with the nuclear pact for a year even after the American withdrawal, Iran has also raised the possibility of breaching the accord by taking initial steps to expand its supply of enriched uranium.

Some Iranian allies around the region have stepped up their attacks on allies of Washington, fueling fears of a wider conflict. The Houthi faction in Yemen, which is backed by Iran, has launched attacks on Saudi oil pipelines and other targets, and this week a Houthi missile hit the arrivals hall of a Saudi airport, injuring 26 people, according to Saudi news reports.

The attacks in May on the four tankers near Fujairah were relatively minor, causing only limited damage to the hulls. An international investigation presented to the United Nations later concluded that the damage was done by divers deployed from small “fast boats” who had placed limpet mines against the hulls.

On a visit to the United Arab Emirates about two weeks ago, John R. Bolton, President Trump’s national security adviser, said Iran was “almost certainly” responsible. A few days later, Mr. Pompeo called the attacks “efforts by the Iranians to raise the price of crude oil.”

The explosions that disabled the tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday were far more severe.

Both took place around dawn, with distress calls at 6:12 a.m. and 7 a.m., according to a statement from the United States Fifth Fleet, which said the U.S.S. Bainbridge, a guided missile destroyer, was “rendering assistance.”

A Norwegian company that owns one of the ships, the Front Altair, confirmed that it was on fire. The crews of both vessels — about 23 in one and 21 in the other — were evacuated in lifeboats.

The owners and operators of both vessels described the incidents as deliberate attacks.

The Front Altair, registered in the Marshall Islands, was chartered by the CPC Corporation, the Taiwanese oil company, to carry naphtha, a petroleum product, from the Emirati port of Ruwais to Kaohsiung, Taiwan.

The Kokuka Courageous was carrying methanol, headed from the Saudi port of Al Jubail to Singapore. Yutaka Katada, the president of the ship’s operator, Kokuka Sangyo, told a news conference that its Filipino crew had abandoned ship in lifeboats after what he described as two attacks three hours apart.

Shipping industry representatives underscored the channel’s critical importance. “Some 30 percent of the world’s crude oil passes through the Straits,” Paolo d’Amico, the chairman of the International Association of Independent Tanker Owners, said in a statement. “If the waters are becoming unsafe, the supply to the entire Western world could be at risk.”

Reporting was contributed by Eric Schmitt and Edward Wong from Washington, Ben Dooley and Makiko Inoue from Tokyo, Vivian Yee from Beirut and Rick Gladstone from New York.





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Post by: Bladerunner on June 16, 2019, 06:56:44 pm
Tanker attacks in Gulf of Oman highlight point of leverage for Iran

Tensions are high in the Middle East after attacks on two oil tankers near the Persian Gulf that U.S. officials are blaming on Iran. U.S. sanctions on Iran already had raised the potential risk of a response in the region. Charlie D'Agata reports from along the Gulf of Oman and explains why this area is such a flashpoint.

1 minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRF0TmADtX4




LONDON — Explosions crippled two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday in what the United States called “unprovoked attacks” by Iran, raising alarms about immediate security and potential military conflict in a vital passageway for a third of the world’s petroleum.

Iran called the accusations part of a campaign of American disinformation and “warmongering.”

The explosions forced the crews of both vessels to evacuate and left at least one ablaze, and hours later the causes were still under investigation. Yet the backdrop of steeply rising threats between President Trump and Iranian leaders gave the stricken ships a grave significance even before the facts became clear.

[Read: Operator says a ‘flying object’ struck one tanker, not a mine]

By afternoon, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that American intelligence agencies had concluded Tehran was behind the disabling of both ships. He pointed to the weapons used, the expertise and resources required and the similarity to other recent attacks attributed to Iran.

The most compelling evidence to support Mr. Pompeo’s claim was video footage released Thursday night by the United States Central Command. A military spokesman, Capt. Bill Urban, said the video showed an Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps patrol boat pulling up alongside the Kokuka Courageous, one of the stricken ships, several hours after the initial explosion, and removing an unexploded limpet mine in broad daylight.

Also on Thursday night, the United States military released two photographs of the ship’s hull, showing damage and what it said was likely the unexploded mine.

“Taken as a whole, these unprovoked attacks present a clear threat to international peace and security,” Mr. Pompeo told a news conference in Washington.

[More: “Iran did do it,” President Trump said in an interview Friday.]

Senior American officials had already blamed Iran for similar attacks last month against four tankers on the same waterway. Iranian officials, who denied any involvement in those attacks, also rejected assertions they were behind the events on Thursday and said Iran had been framed.

“Suspicious doesn’t begin to describe what likely transpired this morning,” Mohammad Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister, wrote on Twitter. Mr. Pompeo, firing back at his news conference, said Mr. Zarif “may think this is funny, but no one else in the world does.”

The Kokuka Courageous was about 20 miles off the Iranian coast when it transmitted an emergency call for help after an initial explosion. When the crew surveyed the damage from the first explosion, they saw a second unexploded mine attached to the hull and evacuated the ship, according to the American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive intelligence matter.

The confrontation also played out at the United Nations in a meeting of the Security Council, where the acting United States ambassador, Jonathan Cohen, told other members that Iran was behind the attacks. Iran’s United Nations mission issued a statement afterward denouncing the “inflammatory remarks” by the American representative, calling them part of “another Iranophobic campaign” of disinformation.

“The U.S. and its regional allies must stop warmongering and put an end to mischievous plots as well as false flag operations in the region,” the Iranian statement said.

Earlier Thursday, the United Nations secretary general, António Guterres, expressed “deep concern” that the new episode might lead to a military escalation.

[Read more about the narrow waterway that is the world’s most important oil route.]

Besides its importance as a petroleum highway, the Persian Gulf also divides bitter and heavily armed rivals, with Iran on one side and the American-backed Arab monarchies of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates on the other.

The two sides have fought for years through surrogate forces in neighboring countries, including Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Bahrain. Saudi and Emirati forces have been battling directly for more than four years to roll back a takeover of Yemen by a faction aligned with Iran.

Anxieties over the shared dependence on the vulnerable Persian Gulf shipping lanes have always been central to their animosities, and a commitment to guaranteeing the flow of oil through the same channels is behind the substantial American military presence in the region.

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Iranian officials on Thursday suggested the new attacks might be the product of an elaborate conspiracy by their enemies, seemingly pointing to American allies like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates or Israel, which have long urged Washington to take a more muscular approach to Iran.

But many analysts said there was a growing consensus in the West that Iran had been behind last month’s attacks, which took place near the port of Fujairah in the United Arab Emirates. And they argued that Iran appeared to be seeking to demonstrate it could imperil the world’s oil markets, but without leaving the kind of fingerprints that could trigger American military retaliation.



“As long as there is significant ambiguity the attacks won’t produce a casus belli,” or cause for war, said Jack Watling, a researcher at the Royal United Services Institute in London. “But Iran is demonstrating its capabilities. It is saying, ‘We can impose a cost on our adversaries in this confrontation, and it will be high.’”

Crude oil prices rose more than 3 percent in response to the crippling of the two ships on Thursday, indirectly boosting Iran’s revenue as an oil producer.

The initial White House response on Thursday was measured. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, said Mr. Trump had been briefed and that the “U.S. government is providing assistance and will continue to assess the situation.”

It was only a few hours later that Mr. Pompeo publicly blamed Iran.

The escalation came against the backdrop of a visit to Iran by the prime minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, who was hoping to de-escalate tensions between Tehran and Washington and avert any “accidental clashes.”

Mr. Abe was carrying a note from Mr. Trump to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, who rebuffed the overture. “I do not see Trump as worthy of any message exchange, and I do not have any reply for him, now or in future,” Mr. Khamenei said Thursday after meeting with Mr. Abe, according to the ayatollah’s website.

The animosity between Washington and Tehran began rising a year ago after President Trump withdrew the United States from a 2015 deal with international powers that limited Iran’s nuclear activity in exchange for eased economic sanctions on the country of 80 million people.

Then, laying out sweeping demands for Iran to alter its policies toward the region, Mr. Trump in April ratcheted up the pressure by imposing severe sanctions aimed at cutting off Iran’s exports of oil, the lifeblood of the now-struggling Iranian economy. He also designated Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, a part of the military, as a terrorist group.

In May, citing unspecified warnings of imminent Iranian attacks on American allies or interests, the Trump administration announced it was dispatching an aircraft carrier group to the Persian Gulf as a deterrent.

“If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter last month. “Never threaten the United States again!”




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Iranian leaders, in response, have threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, a potential Persian Gulf chokepoint. After complying with the nuclear pact for a year even after the American withdrawal, Iran has also raised the possibility of breaching the accord by taking initial steps to expand its supply of enriched uranium.

Some Iranian allies around the region have stepped up their attacks on allies of Washington, fueling fears of a wider conflict. The Houthi faction in Yemen, which is backed by Iran, has launched attacks on Saudi oil pipelines and other targets, and this week a Houthi missile hit the arrivals hall of a Saudi airport, injuring 26 people, according to Saudi news reports.

The attacks in May on the four tankers near Fujairah were relatively minor, causing only limited damage to the hulls. An international investigation presented to the United Nations later concluded that the damage was done by divers deployed from small “fast boats” who had placed limpet mines against the hulls.

On a visit to the United Arab Emirates about two weeks ago, John R. Bolton, President Trump’s national security adviser, said Iran was “almost certainly” responsible. A few days later, Mr. Pompeo called the attacks “efforts by the Iranians to raise the price of crude oil.”

The explosions that disabled the tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday were far more severe.

Both took place around dawn, with distress calls at 6:12 a.m. and 7 a.m., according to a statement from the United States Fifth Fleet, which said the U.S.S. Bainbridge, a guided missile destroyer, was “rendering assistance.”

A Norwegian company that owns one of the ships, the Front Altair, confirmed that it was on fire. The crews of both vessels — about 23 in one and 21 in the other — were evacuated in lifeboats.

The owners and operators of both vessels described the incidents as deliberate attacks.

The Front Altair, registered in the Marshall Islands, was chartered by the CPC Corporation, the Taiwanese oil company, to carry naphtha, a petroleum product, from the Emirati port of Ruwais to Kaohsiung, Taiwan.

The Kokuka Courageous was carrying methanol, headed from the Saudi port of Al Jubail to Singapore. Yutaka Katada, the president of the ship’s operator, Kokuka Sangyo, told a news conference that its Filipino crew had abandoned ship in lifeboats after what he described as two attacks three hours apart.

Shipping industry representatives underscored the channel’s critical importance. “Some 30 percent of the world’s crude oil passes through the Straits,” Paolo d’Amico, the chairman of the International Association of Independent Tanker Owners, said in a statement. “If the waters are becoming unsafe, the supply to the entire Western world could be at risk.”

Reporting was contributed by Eric Schmitt and Edward Wong from Washington, Ben Dooley and Makiko Inoue from Tokyo, Vivian Yee from Beirut and Rick Gladstone from New York.





A version of this article appears in print on June 13, 2019, on Page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: Pompeo Blames Tehran For Blasts on 2 Tankers And Sees ‘Clear Threat’. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

The prophecy of Elam is closer than ever or appears to be.

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Magz on June 23, 2019, 04:30:07 am
Fortunately Donald Trump has not listened to the war mongering s of John Bolton & Mike Pompeo and much to the regret of Israel Trump has declined from gong to war with Iran. :)
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on June 24, 2019, 04:10:44 pm
Fortunately Donald Trump has not listened to the war mongering s of John Bolton & Mike Pompeo and much to the regret of Israel Trump has declined from gong to war with Iran. :)
Good point. That's another reason I love Trump. He isn't pushed or pressured into things if it doesn't feel right. I heard Trump called off a strike because too many innocent people would be killed.
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on June 24, 2019, 04:11:01 pm
The Truth About the Gulf of Oman Attacks and War with Iran


Did Iran really attack a U.S. oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman or was this another false flag event propped up to push for war with Iran, just like the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam? The crew of the oil tanker was rescued by Iran and the crew members thanked Iran for saving them, yet our leaders say Iran attacked the tankers?

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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Magz on June 27, 2019, 04:42:37 am
Iran would have to be complete idiots to attack US Tankers, just look at the map, Iran is surrounded by the Americans.

I reckon God placed Trump in position for these end prophetic times.
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on August 08, 2019, 08:32:16 pm
According to the biblical prophecy, now that the barren Temple has become a walking ground for foxes


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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on September 15, 2019, 10:29:50 am
IS THIS THE FINAL GENERATION?


The FINAL Generation: Psalm 83, God’s Plan for the Future. Prophecy is to point us to Christ who is the author of history, and the theme of Scripture.
God's Word is at its very center prophetic.
The God who recorded the beginning, that no one but Him witnessed in Genesis; is also the God records the ending, that no one but Him could have ever written, in Revelation.
Isn’t it amazing that God devotes 1/4th or 25% of the Bible to the indivisible union that the world’s destiny has with God’s Chosen People of Promise, Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews? Always remember:

 
THE CENTRALITY OF ISRAEL IN THE BIBLE
Using just a normal Bible with no study notes (my Bible is 1100 pages long) you find that:
600 pages (Genesis to Song of Solomon) are Israel’s origin, history, wanderings away from God, and worship (that is 600/1100 pages or) 54%; and
250 pages are devoted to the prophets (Isaiah to Malachi) that speak of the doom coming first to Israel then and the world in the future (that is 250/1100 pages or) 23%; and then we get
110 pages devoted to the Life of Christ (Matthew to John) that lasts for (110/1100 pages or) 10% of the Bible; and then
120 pages devoted to the record of Acts to Jude that explains Christ's Church’s birth and mission for 120/1100 pages or 11%; and then the
20 pages of Revelation describing the centrality of Israel and Jerusalem in end of the world take up almost (20/1100 pages or) 2% of the Bible.
 So just a simple glance at the Table of Contents of God's Word would make a reader conclude that Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews are very important to God.
And also, just the layout of the Bible that opens and closes with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews with the Church’s 21 % of the Word sandwiched importantly, but intentionally between the opening and closing
God who engineered the Scriptures has chosen to devote fully (4/5ths or) 79% of the Bible to Israel’s origin, calling, chastisement, return, and future troubles that engulf the whole world.
Each time the Old Testament prophets explained the future they universally began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem and the Land.
Each times Jesus explained how the world would end He starts with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jewish people (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21).
Each time Paul explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Romans 9-11, 1 & 2 Thessalonians (II Th. 2:4).
Each time John explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Revelation 11, 13, 16, 19.
Israel is the 3rd largest topic is the Bible




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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on September 18, 2019, 07:38:05 pm
IS THIS THE FINAL GENERATION?


The FINAL Generation: Psalm 83, God’s Plan for the Future. Prophecy is to point us to Christ who is the author of history, and the theme of Scripture.
God's Word is at its very center prophetic.
The God who recorded the beginning, that no one but Him witnessed in Genesis; is also the God records the ending, that no one but Him could have ever written, in Revelation.
Isn’t it amazing that God devotes 1/4th or 25% of the Bible to the indivisible union that the world’s destiny has with God’s Chosen People of Promise, Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews? Always remember:

 
THE CENTRALITY OF ISRAEL IN THE BIBLE
Using just a normal Bible with no study notes (my Bible is 1100 pages long) you find that:
600 pages (Genesis to Song of Solomon) are Israel’s origin, history, wanderings away from God, and worship (that is 600/1100 pages or) 54%; and
250 pages are devoted to the prophets (Isaiah to Malachi) that speak of the doom coming first to Israel then and the world in the future (that is 250/1100 pages or) 23%; and then we get
110 pages devoted to the Life of Christ (Matthew to John) that lasts for (110/1100 pages or) 10% of the Bible; and then
120 pages devoted to the record of Acts to Jude that explains Christ's Church’s birth and mission for 120/1100 pages or 11%; and then the
20 pages of Revelation describing the centrality of Israel and Jerusalem in end of the world take up almost (20/1100 pages or) 2% of the Bible.
 So just a simple glance at the Table of Contents of God's Word would make a reader conclude that Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews are very important to God.
And also, just the layout of the Bible that opens and closes with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews with the Church’s 21 % of the Word sandwiched importantly, but intentionally between the opening and closing
God who engineered the Scriptures has chosen to devote fully (4/5ths or) 79% of the Bible to Israel’s origin, calling, chastisement, return, and future troubles that engulf the whole world.
Each time the Old Testament prophets explained the future they universally began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem and the Land.
Each times Jesus explained how the world would end He starts with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jewish people (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21).
Each time Paul explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Romans 9-11, 1 & 2 Thessalonians (II Th. 2:4).
Each time John explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Revelation 11, 13, 16, 19.
Israel is the 3rd largest topic is the Bible




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Yes, but true
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on September 18, 2019, 07:45:27 pm
IS THIS THE FINAL GENERATION?


The FINAL Generation: Psalm 83, God’s Plan for the Future. Prophecy is to point us to Christ who is the author of history, and the theme of Scripture.
God's Word is at its very center prophetic.
The God who recorded the beginning, that no one but Him witnessed in Genesis; is also the God records the ending, that no one but Him could have ever written, in Revelation.
Isn’t it amazing that God devotes 1/4th or 25% of the Bible to the indivisible union that the world’s destiny has with God’s Chosen People of Promise, Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews? Always remember:

 
THE CENTRALITY OF ISRAEL IN THE BIBLE
Using just a normal Bible with no study notes (my Bible is 1100 pages long) you find that:
600 pages (Genesis to Song of Solomon) are Israel’s origin, history, wanderings away from God, and worship (that is 600/1100 pages or) 54%; and
250 pages are devoted to the prophets (Isaiah to Malachi) that speak of the doom coming first to Israel then and the world in the future (that is 250/1100 pages or) 23%; and then we get
110 pages devoted to the Life of Christ (Matthew to John) that lasts for (110/1100 pages or) 10% of the Bible; and then
120 pages devoted to the record of Acts to Jude that explains Christ's Church’s birth and mission for 120/1100 pages or 11%; and then the
20 pages of Revelation describing the centrality of Israel and Jerusalem in end of the world take up almost (20/1100 pages or) 2% of the Bible.
 So just a simple glance at the Table of Contents of God's Word would make a reader conclude that Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews are very important to God.
And also, just the layout of the Bible that opens and closes with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jews with the Church’s 21 % of the Word sandwiched importantly, but intentionally between the opening and closing
God who engineered the Scriptures has chosen to devote fully (4/5ths or) 79% of the Bible to Israel’s origin, calling, chastisement, return, and future troubles that engulf the whole world.
Each time the Old Testament prophets explained the future they universally began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem and the Land.
Each times Jesus explained how the world would end He starts with Israel, Jerusalem, and the Jewish people (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21).
Each time Paul explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Romans 9-11, 1 & 2 Thessalonians (II Th. 2:4).
Each time John explained how the world would end, began with Israel and all details revolved around Jerusalem in Revelation 11, 13, 16, 19.
Israel is the 3rd largest topic is the Bible




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Yes, but true

From what I have read. the last generation will be those that around twenty years old and younger  that have seen the signs as told to them in Mat 24 and the other gospels. One of those signs will be the Rapture of the Church.

This generation will see the 2nd coming of Christ.

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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on October 18, 2019, 06:55:35 pm
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Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on November 07, 2019, 07:49:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULGr8mff1X4
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on January 20, 2020, 02:56:26 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw08AT8DNY4
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on January 21, 2020, 02:44:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw08AT8DNY4

The Prophecies being fulfilled at an alarming rate and more to come, Yes, we are in the end times......While I believe I am not the last generation, my grandchildren very well may be. 

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on January 31, 2020, 05:24:12 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmsOKy-RuR4
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 04, 2020, 11:59:05 pm
Rabbi Predicts Messiah by 2021 - Bible Code Problems & Prophecies


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXbv_sFk960


No sooner than we turned the calendar to 2020, a Rabbi has come out on YouTube claiming the Bible Codes show the "end of the world" in 2021, and the arrival of the Jewish Messiah. With tensions seemingly always rising in the Middle East, and peace plans being discussed from the podiums of political leaders, the next decade is poised to be one that accelerates the many points of infrastructure concerning the end times antichrist conquer, and eventual demand for worship worldwide.


While many have put their own visions to the prophetic literature found in the Scriptures, passages from Jesus' direct mention of the religious leadership accepting "another" Messiah, to clear references of the identity of Mystery Babylon, suggest that there is a geographical significance to all prophecies of the end times. Jerusalem!


Perhaps not how it is currently, but one that surprises everyone, with for example, a discovery of an ancient relic (ark of the covenant?) or an "alien" technology that gives those who posses it superior warfare capabilities. Counterfeit signs and wonders will certainly mean that the tech will be so advanced that it is indistinguishable from the supernatural.
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on February 06, 2020, 08:56:12 pm
Rabbi Predicts Messiah by 2021 - Bible Code Problems & Prophecies


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXbv_sFk960


No sooner than we turned the calendar to 2020, a Rabbi has come out on YouTube claiming the Bible Codes show the "end of the world" in 2021, and the arrival of the Jewish Messiah. With tensions seemingly always rising in the Middle East, and peace plans being discussed from the podiums of political leaders, the next decade is poised to be one that accelerates the many points of infrastructure concerning the end times antichrist conquer, and eventual demand for worship worldwide.


While many have put their own visions to the prophetic literature found in the Scriptures, passages from Jesus' direct mention of the religious leadership accepting "another" Messiah, to clear references of the identity of Mystery Babylon, suggest that there is a geographical significance to all prophecies of the end times. Jerusalem!


Perhaps not how it is currently, but one that surprises everyone, with for example, a discovery of an ancient relic (ark of the covenant?) or an "alien" technology that gives those who posses it superior warfare capabilities. Counterfeit signs and wonders will certainly mean that the tech will be so advanced that it is indistinguishable from the supernatural.


Rem, Israel and all here Rabbis that practice judahism are partially blinded.
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 08, 2020, 01:21:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFEMmJK6v7o
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 09, 2020, 05:50:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crpksJcHE2I&list=WL&index=6&t=11s
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 10, 2020, 04:06:59 pm
I'm not sure what to make of this. I guess only time will tell. But if it's true and really happening then there's not much we can do except to put our complete faith, hope and trust in God the Father no matter what happens. I don't doubt that the psychopaths who rule the world are capable of doing something like this. They definitely want to eliminate most of the world's population especially minorities and dissidents who don't want to get with the program, so to speak. They really enjoy fear mongering and causing panic. They love to see suffering, death and destruction. They have the technology to do this too. No doubt about that and if it is a real threat then they have the cure for themselves.

BREAKING: FEMA CAMPS PREPARING FOR WUHAN SUPER VIRUS OUTBREAK - GENOCIDE WARNING USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMwc3AQhSAI
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 11, 2020, 02:01:08 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLfnRHU44Vk
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 11, 2020, 06:48:46 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GGhtigDGa4
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 13, 2020, 12:53:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAU7Lm5CJ_g
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 16, 2020, 07:05:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2lD-A0cQRw
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 16, 2020, 07:06:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORo_kori6RQ
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 17, 2020, 08:59:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-nv7j9HEgY
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on February 25, 2020, 12:41:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClMURJKDWb4
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on February 25, 2020, 08:06:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClMURJKDWb4

End times for sure, but the church is still here on earth....Until it is gone the Antichrist cannot be publically known.  Until He is publically known, the "man of sin" cannot rise to power in order for him to enforce a 'covenant with Israel and many'.

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 02, 2020, 08:47:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJ59A0dyuQ
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 03, 2020, 11:05:32 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEi-q9NK0-8
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 13, 2020, 12:05:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFYtgOEggNE
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 13, 2020, 03:11:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJ59A0dyuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rct-1rkY8Sc&list=WL&index=2&t=0s
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 20, 2020, 11:14:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZmHuHVoLGk
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 22, 2020, 11:25:03 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLiUHABdto
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on March 23, 2020, 07:53:09 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75lbjYm0dME
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on April 15, 2020, 04:41:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2wP3By9qjg
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on April 15, 2020, 02:42:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2wP3By9qjg

we are just around the corner to many prophecies that are just awaiting to be fulfilled.

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on April 19, 2020, 06:13:15 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjFYSfBsAc
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on May 07, 2020, 09:37:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGp-eDLvkM
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on May 08, 2020, 01:45:20 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJ59A0dyuQ

I like the way he teaches/preaches this subject. recommended listening.

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on May 16, 2020, 05:12:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QUdDGRwSg8
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on May 17, 2020, 07:22:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QUdDGRwSg8

had my doubts at first but for the most part His message is true.

Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on May 23, 2020, 08:17:02 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQWSn-io8M&list=WL&index=32&t=0s
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Jesus Truth on May 28, 2020, 09:51:06 am
Church in the End Times - Part 1


What are Christians called to do during these turbulent times? How can you make a difference in your family, among your friends, and within your community?

This follows the wonderful success of the “Weathering the Coming Storm” series where Dr. Chuck Missler and Ron Matsen dealt with global, national, and personal issues impacting all of our lives today. “Church in the End Times” serves as the NEXT STEP in equipping ourselves with the tools and insights we need to be a guiding light to a world coping in the Last Days darkness of chaos and deceit.

Join Dr. Chuck Missler as he explores this timely topic.

57 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYaLyoWFirs
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on May 28, 2020, 07:27:09 pm
Church in the End Times - Part 1


What are Christians called to do during these turbulent times? How can you make a difference in your family, among your friends, and within your community?

This follows the wonderful success of the “Weathering the Coming Storm” series where Dr. Chuck Missler and Ron Matsen dealt with global, national, and personal issues impacting all of our lives today. “Church in the End Times” serves as the NEXT STEP in equipping ourselves with the tools and insights we need to be a guiding light to a world coping in the Last Days darkness of chaos and deceit.

Join Dr. Chuck Missler as he explores this timely topic.

57 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYaLyoWFirs

This is a good one to watch..
Blade
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on June 02, 2020, 02:59:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajaGNyb9l8&list=WL&index=22&t=5s
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: patrick jane on June 03, 2020, 10:29:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m21ccYEFsjE&list=WL&index=19&t=0s
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
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The Bible Knows The Things To Come - 1 Hour Of Prophetic Events



1 hour 8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ll_HagG5k
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Post by: patrick jane on August 09, 2020, 08:57:39 am
God is in control
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Post by: Bladerunner on August 09, 2020, 12:05:42 pm
The Bible Knows The Things To Come - 1 Hour Of Prophetic Events



1 hour 8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ll_HagG5k

This does not tell us anything about the tracking on the endtimes.

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on August 09, 2020, 01:00:41 pm
The Bible Knows The Things To Come - 1 Hour Of Prophetic Events



1 hour 8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ll_HagG5k

This does not tell us anything about the tracking on the endtimes.

Blade
:D ;D :o ??? ::) :-* :'( :-\ :)

I was just raising the post count. Give me a break
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Post by: patrick jane on August 14, 2020, 05:38:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-QXIXJuZ1Y
Title: Re: End Times - Tracking The Signs
Post by: Bladerunner on August 14, 2020, 09:08:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-QXIXJuZ1Y

oh well

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on August 16, 2020, 09:39:02 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vX379EGZ6c&list=WL&index=31&t=0s
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Post by: patrick jane on August 29, 2020, 10:52:23 am
it's happening
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Post by: Bladerunner on August 29, 2020, 11:06:14 am
it's happening

Yes PJ, I agree. the days of Noah are upon us and will only get worse for those left behind.

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on September 05, 2020, 06:50:56 pm
Is September the End of the World

By Justin Johnson


Blood moons, Papal visits, Jewish holidays, stock market crashes, Supreme Court decisions. Are the current events pointing to something significant happening this month? Perhaps the rapture, the coming of the Lord, or judgment?

This year is not the first time that end of the world hysteria has run rampant. Predictions have been made for millennia. All have failed because they are driven by an ignorance of the Bible rightly divided.

What does mid-Acts dispensational right division have to do with it?

Everyone knows the Bible says no man knows the day and the hour (Matt 24:36), but this does not stop people from thinking they see signs of the last days. Why? They think the church is in some way part of Israel’s prophecies, Israel’s calendar, and that the church should be looking for prophetic signs given to Israel.

The Bible rightly divided separates prophecy from mystery, Israel from the church, heaven and earth. In prophecy God worked through Israel to fulfill his purpose on the earth, but now according to the revelation of the mystery, God is working through the church for a heavenly purpose.

God’s present work according to the mystery was never revealed in the prophetic scripture (Rom 16:25).

End of world predictions will always persuade you that God is working through current events for the fulfillment of prophecy.

Blood Moons
The most popular prophetic prediction this time round concerns the blood moon that will occur on a Jewish feast day, at the end of a seventh year Jewish cycle, toward the end of this month.

This is supposed to be a fulfillment of Joel 2:31 that the day of the Lord is at hand.

“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.” – Joel 2:31
Never mind that someone in Quebec has a better chance of seeing the blood moon than anyone in Israel, or that it is fairly common for blood moons to fall on Jewish feast days, or that the rest of the prophecy in Joel requires the sun turning dark, stars falling, and a great earthquake.

What is more important is that Joel 2:31 aligns more with Peter’s preaching at Pentecost than anything Paul taught. Joel 2:31 requires God to work through Israel.

If our pattern is in the Jewish ministry of Peter on a Jewish feast day (Pentecost), then we might think it important to look at the Jewish calendar for the fulfillment of these events.

However, if our pattern from the Lord is found in the apostle Paul ministering an unprophesied mystery of Christ, then what does the Jewish calendar or its prophecies have to do with us?

“Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain.” – Galatians 4:10-11
Are You Ready?

“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” – Luke 21:36
Many are worried that if they are not watching for the signs of the times, and have their lamps filled with oil, then they will miss the bridegroom when he comes.

There is no reason for this. These Biblical references about preparing for the end were spoken to Israel to prepare for their kingdom come. These are not instructions for the church living in God’s dispensation of grace. We are no longer preaching the gospel of the kingdom come, but the gospel of the grace of God.

We are not of the night that we should be in darkness, we are not the bride, and we are not found worthy by watching and making ourselves ready.

According to the mystery of Christ, we are justified freely by faith in the finished work of Christ. We are accepted only in the Beloved (Christ, Eph 1:6). We need not worry whether we will “stand before the Son of man” if we are in the very body of Christ!

Even the catching away of the church to meet the Lord in the air has no condition upon those who have made themselves ready(1 Thess 4:16-18). The great catching away will consist of those who are saved by faith in the gospel of Christ.

This blessed hope and appearing of Christ for his church has nothing to do with Israel’s prophecies of the end.

Not the Times

The best way to determine whether or not you are seeing signs of the times of prophetic fulfillment is to understand whether or not we are living in the times when God will fulfill his prophecy or time when God is operating according to His mystery in Christ.

If we are living in the dispensation of God’s grace to the world, then we are not living in the time of God’s judgment.

If we are living in the time of God operating through a church body where there is no Jew nor Gentile, then we are not living in the time of God operating through Israel.

If we are living in the time of God ministering the mystery gospel to a world according to the mystery of Christ, then we are not living in the time of the prophesied gospel of the kingdom according to the prophecies spoken by Christ.

We live under the dispensation of God’s grace, a mystery dispensation concerning a heavenly people. We are not a part of God’s prophetic purpose for the earth.

Will the world end in September? Only if we are living in the time of prophecy instead of the time of mystery. We do not look for the signs of prophetic times because we live in the mystery times that have no prophesied signs.

What Should I Do?

What of the increase of wars, circumstances, stock market crash, and increase of evil men and events?

Many are rumors not worthy of a Bible believer. Jesus said himself, in prophecy, that these are not signs of the end (Matt 24:6-7). Paul says, in mystery, evil men must wax worse and worse (2 Tim 3:13). We live in a present evil world, but God has not given us the spirit of fear (2 Tim 1:7).

There is a grace response. We should pray for those in authority (1 Tim 2:1-2). We should provide for our own (1 Tim 5:8). We should participate in what God’s will has been for two thousand years for his church.

“[God] will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” – 1 Timothy 2:4-5
God’s message is not one of fear or prophecy, but of mystery salvation.
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Post by: patrick jane on September 12, 2020, 10:22:52 pm
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/september/bahrain-israel-peace-treaty-trump-united-arab-emirates-uae.html








Bahrain Makes Peace with Israel, Following United Arab Emirates













Today’s deal will normalize diplomatic, commercial, and security ties. Trump administration hopes more Arab nations soon follow.


Bahrain has become the latest Arab nation to agree to normalize ties with Israel as part of a broader diplomatic push by President Donald Trump and his administration to fully integrate the Jewish state into the Middle East.

Trump announced the agreement on Friday, following a three-way phone call he had with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Bahrain’s King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. The three leaders also issued a brief six-paragraph joint statement, attesting to the deal.

“Another HISTORIC breakthrough today!” Trump tweeted.

The announcement on the 19th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks came less than a week before Trump hosts a White House ceremony to mark the establishment of full relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Bahrain’s foreign minister will attend the event.

“There’s no more powerful response to the hatred that spawned 9/11 than this agreement,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

It represents another diplomatic win for Trump less than two months before the presidential election and an opportunity to shore up support among pro-Israel evangelicals. Just last week, Trump announced agreements in principle for Kosovo to recognize Israel and for Serbia to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

“This is a historic breakthrough to further peace in the Middle East,” Trump, Netanyahu, and King Hamad said in the statement. “Opening direct dialogue and ties between these two dynamic societies and advanced economies will continue the positive transformation of the Middle East and increase stability, security, and prosperity in the region.”

Most people vividly remember where they were on the dreadful day, 19 years ago, when terrorists hijacked planes, weaponizing them as bombs to be flown into buildings. As a sophomore studying at Union University (Jackson, TN), I remember the images flashing across the TV screen as we paused our “Becoming a Global Christian” class. The professor, the students, we were all speechless as we witnessed live coverage of the second plane hitting the second tower.

Like the UAE agreement, Friday’s Bahrain-Israel deal will normalize diplomatic, commercial, security, and other relations between the two countries. Bahrain, along with Saudi Arabia, had already dropped a prohibition on Israeli flights using its airspace. Saudi acquiescence to the agreements has been considered key to the deals.

Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner noted that the agreement is the second Israel has reached with an Arab country in 30 days after having made peace with only two Arab nations—Egypt and Jordan—in 72 years of its independence.

“This is very fast,” Kushner told The Associated Press. “The region is responding very favorably to the UAE deal and hopefully it’s a sign that even more will come.”

Netanyahu welcomed the agreement and thanked Trump. “It took us 26 years between the second peace agreement with an Arab country and the third, but only 29 days between the third and the fourth, and there will be more,” he said, referring to the 1994 peace treaty with Jordan and the more recent agreements.

The agreement will likely be seen as a further setback to the Palestinians who tried unsuccessfully to have the Arab League condemn normalization with Israel until they have secured an independent state. That was one of the few cards still held by Palestinians in negotiations as peace talks remain stalled.

The joint statement made passing mention of the Palestinians, saying the parties will continue efforts “to achieve a just, comprehensive, and enduring resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to enable the Palestinian people to realize their full potential.”

The agreement makes Bahrain the fourth Arab country, after Egypt, Jordan, and the UAE, to have full diplomatic ties with Israel. Other Arab nations believed to be on the cusp of fully recognizing Israel include Oman and Sudan. While tacitly blessing the deals, Saudi Arabia—the regional power player—is not expected to move as quickly.

Like the UAE, Bahrain has never fought a war against Israel and doesn’t share a border with it. But Bahrain, like most of the Arab world, long rejected diplomatic ties with Israel in the absence of a peace deal establishing a Palestinian state on lands captured by Israel in 1967.

The agreement could give a boost to Netanyahu, who was indicted on corruption charges last year. Deals with Gulf Arab states “are the direct result of the policy that I have led for two decades,” namely “peace for peace, peace through strength,” Netanyahu has said.

The Israeli-UAE deal required Israel to halt its contentious plan to annex occupied West Bank land sought by the Palestinians. Telephone calls soon began working between the nations as they continue to discuss other deals, including direct flights.

While the UAE’s population remains small and the federation has no tradition of standing up to the country’s autocracy, Bahrain represents a far-different country.

Just off the coast of Saudi Arabia, the island of Bahrain is among the world’s smallest countries, only about 760 square kilometers (290 square miles). Bahrain’s location in the Persian Gulf long has made it a trading stop and a naval defensive position. The island is home to the US Navy’s 5th Fleet and a recently built British naval base.

Bahrain is acutely aware of threats posed by Iran, an anxiety that comes from Bahrain’s majority Shiite population, despite being ruled since 1783 by the Sunni Al Khalifa family. Iran under Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi had pushed to take over the island after the British left, though Bahrainis in 1970 overwhelmingly supported becoming an independent nation and the UN Security Council unanimously backed that.

Since Iran’s 1979 Islamic Revolution, Bahrain’s rulers have blamed Iran for arming militants on the island. Iran denies the accusations, though weapons experts suggest explosives found there bear similarities to others linked to Iran. Israel and Iran view each other as top regional enemies.

Outside of those tensions, Bahrain’s Shiite majority has accused the government of treating them like second-class citizens. The Shiites joined pro-democracy activists in demanding more political freedoms in 2011, as Arab Spring protests swept across the wider Middle East. Saudi and Emirati troops ultimately helped violently put down the demonstrations.

In recent years, Bahrain has cracked down on all dissent, imprisoned activists, and hampered independent reporting on the island. While the Obama administration halted the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Bahrain over human rights concerns, the Trump administration dropped that after coming into office.

Bahrain’s royal family and officials have come out in support of the Israel-UAE agreement. However, civil society groups and others have condemned the move and warned the monarchy not to follow in the UAE’s footsteps—despite Bahrain’s yearslong flirtation with Israel and Jewish leaders. Unlike the Emirates, Jews had a historical presence on the island and some still live there.

In 2017, two prominent US rabbis said Bahrain’s king told them he hoped the Arab boycott of Israel would end. An interfaith group from Bahrain that year also visited Israel, though the state-run Bahrain News Agency later said that it didn’t “represent any official entity” after an uproar erupted on social media.

Bahrain has increasingly relied on support from other nations as it struggles with its debts, particularly neighboring Saudi Arabia. In that way, Bahrain has followed in lockstep with Riyadh, meaning any normalization with Israel likely got the kingdom’s approval though Saudi Arabia has for its part remained silent since the Emirati announcement.










Associated Press writers Aya Batrawy in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and Ilan Ben Zion and Joseph Krauss in Jerusalem contributed to this report.

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Post by: patrick jane on September 21, 2020, 09:12:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igzYVXtF1Hs
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Post by: patrick jane on September 26, 2020, 12:17:01 am
What The Abraham Accord Coin REALLY Means (2020)


8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUhCgdhFzg
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Post by: patrick jane on September 27, 2020, 07:50:51 pm
What The Abraham Accord Coin REALLY Means (2020)


8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUhCgdhFzg
>:(
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Post by: patrick jane on October 03, 2020, 10:33:04 am
 :D
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Post by: patrick jane on October 06, 2020, 09:32:05 am
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Post by: patrick jane on October 08, 2020, 10:12:51 pm
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🙏
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Post by: patrick jane on October 13, 2020, 10:18:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqI1G7a5Fc
🙏
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Post by: patrick jane on October 16, 2020, 09:01:15 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqI1G7a5Fc
🙏
;D
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Post by: patrick jane on October 20, 2020, 11:29:03 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on October 28, 2020, 05:41:56 pm
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Post by: Bladerunner on October 28, 2020, 09:52:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUyPeJL0Wf4

;D
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Post by: patrick jane on November 01, 2020, 10:22:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOsv9_TCBzM
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Post by: Bladerunner on November 02, 2020, 06:35:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOsv9_TCBzM

Exactly

Blade
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Post by: patrick jane on November 05, 2020, 07:39:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDH61WlIad4
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Post by: patrick jane on November 13, 2020, 01:49:03 pm
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Post by: Bladerunner on November 13, 2020, 09:53:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sgEi7WztrE

:D
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Post by: patrick jane on November 19, 2020, 09:04:28 pm
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Post by: patrick jane on November 21, 2020, 07:11:05 am
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/coronavirus-as-evidence-of-creation-in-freefall.html








Is The Coronavirus Evidence of a Creation in Freefall?





How does theology explain a pandemic? Basic biology, human sin, or the Devil?


When I first asked whether the coronavirus is evil, the virus was still novel and the panic not quite a pandemic. But as I type now, almost 1.5 million people have died worldwide and the virus proliferates relentlessly, a conflagration with plenty of wood yet to burn as we await a vaccine and its dissemination. What may have seemed to be a controllable fire in the beginning now rages nearly out of control in the United States, India, Brazil, Europe, and elsewhere. Viewing the virus as part of God’s “good creation” presses against our theological sensibilities. Is the coronavirus evil? How can it not be?


“COVID-19 pandemic has wide implications for what Christians mean by the goodness of creation,” wrote theologian Hans Madueme, who leveraged my “hornet’s nest” of a query for an online symposium. As this array of brilliant respondents has written, a virus, no matter how destructive, cannot carry the moral equivalence of human willfulness. But the mere lack of moral willfulness does not make it good.

Viruses are not free agents, but I still wonder about a kind of created freedom in the nature of things—akin to what we know about uncertainty in the quantum realm undergirding the reality we experience. Inasmuch as humans are made from the dust in God’s image (Gen. 2:7), there exists a continuity between Creator, creation, and creature. The free will of God manifests in the moral choices humans make, and is reflected, perhaps, in what we perceive as the random nature of nature.

John Stackhouse labels the virus “a pestilence with no place in the messianic kingdom to come.” Katherine Sonderegger aptly narrated the dreadful landscape wrought by this microscopic legion, a link to Mark 5:9 and to the tyranny of Satan persuasively argued by Gregory Boyd, a virus victim himself. The New Testament easily attributes viral pestilence to the Devil’s work, though God can use it for his own glory. Whether or not we believe this is what we’re witnessing with the pandemic depends on our theology.

As Jim Stump asserted, “science doesn’t get to answer theological questions, but it can certainly prompt us to reconsider whether we’ve done our theology well.” Science prompted me as a pastor to rethink certain aspects of my theology. As Christians, “we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Cor. 5:7), which means there’s more to reality than what we see. But it doesn’t mean we ignore what we can see. Faith is not fantasy. If theology is going to matter, it too must correspond with the way things are rather than with the way we believers want things to be.

I’ve never been fully satisfied by the delineation of labor between science explaining the how and theology the why. As creator of all things, God authored all that science discovers. We know death and viruses preceded humanity’s appearance on earth, and both play an essential part in biological evolution. “A bad thing might be a good thing,” as Stackhouse reminds. Conversely, a good thing can become a bad thing too, as Sonderegger allows with her mention of privatio boni (the absence of good). I wrote a follow-up editorial in praise of St. Augustine’s reasoning of evil as essentially nothing, a basic nonentity with wholly derivative power. Like a virus, evil extracts its life from the goodness it perverts. Thus evil often gets spoken in terms of what it is not: injustice or iniquity or ingratitude, disorder, disobedience, faith lessness, law lessness, god lessness, and the rest.

By laying the pandemic at Satan’s feet, Boyd asserts that to “take the New Testament’s perspective seriously” is to regard creation as “corrupted at some point by an enemy, to one degree or another.” As for how Satan becomes the Devil, science can’t help us. Tradition surmises he mutated through free will of his own. Theology grants moral agency on Satan’s part, a fallen angel before the fall who then provoked the fall of humans. Stackhouse notes the slithering serpent in Eden (and talking, no less, Gen. 3:1) as evidence of evil’s pre-Fall intrusion. Nevertheless, why allow an angel to become a demon? And why allow a snake in Eden’s grass—not to mention physical death and mosquitoes and the biological necessity of bacteria and viruses?

The best I have to affirm remains the free will defense, the logic of love. God so loves the world that he sent his Son to save it (John 3:16), but love can’t be coerced and also be love. Thus God, of his own eternal free will, purposely factors free will into the system for love’s sake and for genuine relationship with people made in his image. Allowing freedom to love means freedom to reject love. Extrapolate this logic to nature as a whole and you have what some see as a hint behind the why of random uncertainty.

Granted, God doesn’t desire a personal relationship with creation the way that he does with people, but the Creator’s relational nature still shows up in the symbiosis of nature. The freedom we experience as humans made from the dust corresponds to the free process wired into dust itself. But just as the free will of people (and angels) can reject God’s love—and do wrong and commit evil—so the free process of creation results in mosquitoes and the diseases they carry—not to mention genetic deformities, hurricanes, and earthquakes, all outcomes of a creation free to evolve and become what it becomes.

To the extent that such explanations remain unsatisfactory, I remind us that theological conjecture at its best remains a sinners’ endeavor. Moreover, as Gerald Bray rightly adds, “God is under no obligation to explain himself to us.” We debate “the problem of evil,” which isn’t really a problem if by problem we mean a puzzle to be rationally solved. Among the factors making evil so evil is its defiance of logic. Even if you blame the Devil, how do you determine what made the Devil decide to become the Devil? Adam and Eve, created as good, had no good reason for choosing badly. They just did it. We do it too. By choosing wrongly, we prove free will exists, but the tyranny of evil is that as soon as we choose it, we are no longer free. As the apostle Paul made clear in Romans 7, our choices set boundaries, and our unavoidably bad choices set inescapably tight boundaries that affect our futures not only in finite time and space but for eternity too. Our freedom constrains to such a severe extent that Paul could only speak of it in terms of enslavement.

Whether due to the wiles of the Devil, the randomness of a very good creation not yet fully free, or the mysterious providence of God, this coronavirus pandemic threatens, constrains, and destroys. It also eventually ends. Immunity and vaccines will take hold. The God who loves us gives us agency and creativity to overcome. But no human-generated immunity or vaccination exists against evil. Sin infects our souls over and over again. That the Son of God had to die to deliver us from evil attests to its truly hideous and destructive nature. Our only hope, thank God, is through Jesus Christ (Rom. 7:25), who starves evil of its power with his own sinless life. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Cor. 5:21). Into this glory, creation groans for its own redemption (Romans 8:21) and one day will have it.







This piece, adapted, was originally published in Sapientia, a periodical of the Henry Center for Theological Understanding, as a rejoinder to a series on the coronavirus and the goodness of creation.




Daniel Harrell is editor in chief at Christianity Today.
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Post by: Bladerunner on November 21, 2020, 05:00:26 pm
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/coronavirus-as-evidence-of-creation-in-freefall.html








Is The Coronavirus Evidence of a Creation in Freefall?





How does theology explain a pandemic? Basic biology, human sin, or the Devil?


When I first asked whether the coronavirus is evil, the virus was still novel and the panic not quite a pandemic. But as I type now, almost 1.5 million people have died worldwide and the virus proliferates relentlessly, a conflagration with plenty of wood yet to burn as we await a vaccine and its dissemination. What may have seemed to be a controllable fire in the beginning now rages nearly out of control in the United States, India, Brazil, Europe, and elsewhere. Viewing the virus as part of God’s “good creation” presses against our theological sensibilities. Is the coronavirus evil? How can it not be?


“COVID-19 pandemic has wide implications for what Christians mean by the goodness of creation,” wrote theologian Hans Madueme, who leveraged my “hornet’s nest” of a query for an online symposium. As this array of brilliant respondents has written, a virus, no matter how destructive, cannot carry the moral equivalence of human willfulness. But the mere lack of moral willfulness does not make it good.

Viruses are not free agents, but I still wonder about a kind of created freedom in the nature of things—akin to what we know about uncertainty in the quantum realm undergirding the reality we experience. Inasmuch as humans are made from the dust in God’s image (Gen. 2:7), there exists a continuity between Creator, creation, and creature. The free will of God manifests in the moral choices humans make, and is reflected, perhaps, in what we perceive as the random nature of nature.

John Stackhouse labels the virus “a pestilence with no place in the messianic kingdom to come.” Katherine Sonderegger aptly narrated the dreadful landscape wrought by this microscopic legion, a link to Mark 5:9 and to the tyranny of Satan persuasively argued by Gregory Boyd, a virus victim himself. The New Testament easily attributes viral pestilence to the Devil’s work, though God can use it for his own glory. Whether or not we believe this is what we’re witnessing with the pandemic depends on our theology.

As Jim Stump asserted, “science doesn’t get to answer theological questions, but it can certainly prompt us to reconsider whether we’ve done our theology well.” Science prompted me as a pastor to rethink certain aspects of my theology. As Christians, “we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Cor. 5:7), which means there’s more to reality than what we see. But it doesn’t mean we ignore what we can see. Faith is not fantasy. If theology is going to matter, it too must correspond with the way things are rather than with the way we believers want things to be.

I’ve never been fully satisfied by the delineation of labor between science explaining the how and theology the why. As creator of all things, God authored all that science discovers. We know death and viruses preceded humanity’s appearance on earth, and both play an essential part in biological evolution. “A bad thing might be a good thing,” as Stackhouse reminds. Conversely, a good thing can become a bad thing too, as Sonderegger allows with her mention of privatio boni (the absence of good). I wrote a follow-up editorial in praise of St. Augustine’s reasoning of evil as essentially nothing, a basic nonentity with wholly derivative power. Like a virus, evil extracts its life from the goodness it perverts. Thus evil often gets spoken in terms of what it is not: injustice or iniquity or ingratitude, disorder, disobedience, faith lessness, law lessness, god lessness, and the rest.

By laying the pandemic at Satan’s feet, Boyd asserts that to “take the New Testament’s perspective seriously” is to regard creation as “corrupted at some point by an enemy, to one degree or another.” As for how Satan becomes the Devil, science can’t help us. Tradition surmises he mutated through free will of his own. Theology grants moral agency on Satan’s part, a fallen angel before the fall who then provoked the fall of humans. Stackhouse notes the slithering serpent in Eden (and talking, no less, Gen. 3:1) as evidence of evil’s pre-Fall intrusion. Nevertheless, why allow an angel to become a demon? And why allow a snake in Eden’s grass—not to mention physical death and mosquitoes and the biological necessity of bacteria and viruses?

The best I have to affirm remains the free will defense, the logic of love. God so loves the world that he sent his Son to save it (John 3:16), but love can’t be coerced and also be love. Thus God, of his own eternal free will, purposely factors free will into the system for love’s sake and for genuine relationship with people made in his image. Allowing freedom to love means freedom to reject love. Extrapolate this logic to nature as a whole and you have what some see as a hint behind the why of random uncertainty.

Granted, God doesn’t desire a personal relationship with creation the way that he does with people, but the Creator’s relational nature still shows up in the symbiosis of nature. The freedom we experience as humans made from the dust corresponds to the free process wired into dust itself. But just as the free will of people (and angels) can reject God’s love—and do wrong and commit evil—so the free process of creation results in mosquitoes and the diseases they carry—not to mention genetic deformities, hurricanes, and earthquakes, all outcomes of a creation free to evolve and become what it becomes.

To the extent that such explanations remain unsatisfactory, I remind us that theological conjecture at its best remains a sinners’ endeavor. Moreover, as Gerald Bray rightly adds, “God is under no obligation to explain himself to us.” We debate “the problem of evil,” which isn’t really a problem if by problem we mean a puzzle to be rationally solved. Among the factors making evil so evil is its defiance of logic. Even if you blame the Devil, how do you determine what made the Devil decide to become the Devil? Adam and Eve, created as good, had no good reason for choosing badly. They just did it. We do it too. By choosing wrongly, we prove free will exists, but the tyranny of evil is that as soon as we choose it, we are no longer free. As the apostle Paul made clear in Romans 7, our choices set boundaries, and our unavoidably bad choices set inescapably tight boundaries that affect our futures not only in finite time and space but for eternity too. Our freedom constrains to such a severe extent that Paul could only speak of it in terms of enslavement.

Whether due to the wiles of the Devil, the randomness of a very good creation not yet fully free, or the mysterious providence of God, this coronavirus pandemic threatens, constrains, and destroys. It also eventually ends. Immunity and vaccines will take hold. The God who loves us gives us agency and creativity to overcome. But no human-generated immunity or vaccination exists against evil. Sin infects our souls over and over again. That the Son of God had to die to deliver us from evil attests to its truly hideous and destructive nature. Our only hope, thank God, is through Jesus Christ (Rom. 7:25), who starves evil of its power with his own sinless life. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Cor. 5:21). Into this glory, creation groans for its own redemption (Romans 8:21) and one day will have it.







This piece, adapted, was originally published in Sapientia, a periodical of the Henry Center for Theological Understanding, as a rejoinder to a series on the coronavirus and the goodness of creation.




Daniel Harrell is editor in chief at Christianity Today.


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