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Title: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'"
Post by: bernardpyron on February 09, 2019, 12:49:35 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHto0duokwk

"Published on Feb 8, 2019
Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'"

Roger Stone was able to get hold of video footage taken by his security camera of the FBI Raid on him, his wife, and his dogs.  Apparently the FBI did not take this particular footage.
 
You may have to go to the link shown above to see the shots from this security camera footage, which is not too bad though black and white.


Title: Re: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonigh
Post by: bernardpyron on February 10, 2019, 10:41:52 am
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/27/why-roger-stone-will-spend-the-rest-of-his-life-in-jail.html

Why Roger Stone Will Likely Spend the Rest of His Life in Jail
by Leo Vidal

"After Trump’s friend Roger Stone was arrested on Friday and charged with seven felony counts, he stood at the top of the courthouse steps and declared his innocence. His defiant speech to reporters made it sound like he was arrested on trumped-up charges (no pun intended) and that the prosecutors had no chance of winning.

However, according to the prosecutor who convicted Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby for perjury and obstruction of justice, the case against Stone is almost perfect.

Writing in The Daily Beast, former federal prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg said:

“Barring a presidential pardon (always the wild-card possibility with a POTUS like Trump) Stone will be convicted and receive a very substantial prison sentence. This is as close to a slam-dunk case as a prosecutor will ever bring.”

Unfortunately for Stone, Zeidenberg says that the government has a mountain of documents it can use to make its case. His indictment set forth in great detail the massive amount of email and text evidence that supports the charges against him. These documents can only be interpreted one way: Stone is guilty.

For example: On the same day that Stone testified before Congress that he had never sent or received emails or text messages from his friend Randy Credico, the two men had exchanged more than 30 text messages. That will be hard for Stone’s defense lawyers to explain away.

In fact, according to Zeidenberg, there is almost no defense that Stone can make against the charges Mueller has brought against him. He said:

“There are several types of defenses that are typically employed when defending a case like this, and none of them are viable here.”

In addition, Stone’s trial will be held in the District of Columbia, where the jury pool hates white-collar criminals almost as much as they hate the current president. And, Zeidenberg says, “they will find Stone loathsome.”

"Zeidenberg says that Mueller won’t even attempt to engage in a preliminary debrief with Stone to test the possibility of cooperation, since he knows that Stone would immediately go on Fox News to charge Mueller with unfair “Gestapo” tactics in his prosecution."

"As Zeidenberg says, “Stone has nothing to sell that Mueller would be interested in buying.”

"Even though Stone talks big, the truth is that Robert Mueller has him dead to rights. All the evidence is against him, he has no viable defense, the jury will be biased against him, and the prosecutors have no incentive to cut a “deal” to reduce his prison sentence."

"In short Roger Stone will soon be going to jail, and he will probably stay there for the rest of his life."

How did this situation in which Roger Stone appears to be in come about?

It was possible for a former FBI Chief to get into a position to send some of President Trump's close associates to prison because Trump has not had control of the Justice Department.  I believe this is a fact.

Roger Stone can be silenced by sending him to prison.  Any other individual in the contemporary Populist-Patriot-Alternative Media Movement could likewise be silenced by sending him or her to prison.

Why such a former FBI Director would actually  try to send some of  President Trump's people to prison is another question, which has important moral implications.

The issues in the Roger Stone case are complex, and go back to what Roger Stone  has called the "Russian Collusion Delusion, which the Democratic Party or Marxist Leftists will deny is an illusion.  This is the charge by the Left that Russians did something to help get Donald Trump elected in 2016, which goes back in time to the election year of 2016.  The Case against Roger Stone involves the E-Mails of Hillary and  Julian Assange, who might be a Villain for the Left but a Hero for some in the current Populist-Patriot and Alternative media Movement.

The Roger Stone case comes up out of the contemporary extreme division in American politics.  Politics has always tended to be a matter of the Hegelian Dialectic, or Anti-Thesis in opposition to the Thesis.  Marx is said to have "turned Hegel On His Head," meaning that Marx created an atheistic form of the dialectic.  While Hegel was an Idealist, the Marxist form of the dialectic operates without moral restraint, so that telling lies and making personal attacks upon an  opponent is allowed in the Marxist Dialectic.

And the moral question should be raised in the Roger Stone case, if it does turn out that he goes to prison for the rest of his life. 

Since our political  ideology is based upon the Northern Renaissance and the Protestant Reformation, and our Declaration of Independence historically  comes out of the  Reformation in Scotland under John Knox and Samuel Rutherford, we have to ask if American Protestant Christian Morality would be violated if a man is sent to prison for a long time when, in fact, he did no harm to an individual in his behavior for which he is sent to prison.

Historian Quentin Skinner in The Foundations of Modern Political
Thought, 1978, goes over the influence of several Scotch
and English Christians, such as John Knox and Samuel Rutherford, on John
Locke and the late 18th century American political ideology behind the creation of the Constitutional Republic.

John Locke's book, Two Treatises of Government, according to Skinner, influenced Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, and had an influence on James Madison and other Founding Fathers.

Isaiah 10: 1-2: "Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed. To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right of the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless."

There are some other verses in the Old Testament about the right of the people.

John Knox and Samuel Rutherford in Scotland, created, from scripture, a view that supported the right of the common people to oppose a totalitarian government, which does not respect the rights of the people. These ideas
of Knox and Rutherford were secularized by John Locke and
Thomas Jefferson made them into the Declaration of Independence, one of
our founding documents which does briefly state a political ideology.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.."

I believe that English Common Law tended toward the position that criminal behavior consists of crimes against individuals - such as depriving individuals of their possessions, murdering them or causing them physical injury.




Title: Re: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonigh
Post by: guest8 on February 10, 2019, 05:31:56 pm
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/27/why-roger-stone-will-spend-the-rest-of-his-life-in-jail.html

Why Roger Stone Will Likely Spend the Rest of His Life in Jail
by Leo Vidal

"After Trump’s friend Roger Stone was arrested on Friday and charged with seven felony counts, he stood at the top of the courthouse steps and declared his innocence. His defiant speech to reporters made it sound like he was arrested on trumped-up charges (no pun intended) and that the prosecutors had no chance of winning.

However, according to the prosecutor who convicted Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby for perjury and obstruction of justice, the case against Stone is almost perfect.

Writing in The Daily Beast, former federal prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg said:

“Barring a presidential pardon (always the wild-card possibility with a POTUS like Trump) Stone will be convicted and receive a very substantial prison sentence. This is as close to a slam-dunk case as a prosecutor will ever bring.”

Unfortunately for Stone, Zeidenberg says that the government has a mountain of documents it can use to make its case. His indictment set forth in great detail the massive amount of email and text evidence that supports the charges against him. These documents can only be interpreted one way: Stone is guilty.

For example: On the same day that Stone testified before Congress that he had never sent or received emails or text messages from his friend Randy Credico, the two men had exchanged more than 30 text messages. That will be hard for Stone’s defense lawyers to explain away.

In fact, according to Zeidenberg, there is almost no defense that Stone can make against the charges Mueller has brought against him. He said:

“There are several types of defenses that are typically employed when defending a case like this, and none of them are viable here.”

In addition, Stone’s trial will be held in the District of Columbia, where the jury pool hates white-collar criminals almost as much as they hate the current president. And, Zeidenberg says, “they will find Stone loathsome.”

"Zeidenberg says that Mueller won’t even attempt to engage in a preliminary debrief with Stone to test the possibility of cooperation, since he knows that Stone would immediately go on Fox News to charge Mueller with unfair “Gestapo” tactics in his prosecution."

"As Zeidenberg says, “Stone has nothing to sell that Mueller would be interested in buying.”

"Even though Stone talks big, the truth is that Robert Mueller has him dead to rights. All the evidence is against him, he has no viable defense, the jury will be biased against him, and the prosecutors have no incentive to cut a “deal” to reduce his prison sentence."

"In short Roger Stone will soon be going to jail, and he will probably stay there for the rest of his life."

How did this situation in which Roger Stone appears to be in come about?

It was possible for a former FBI Chief to get into a position to send some of President Trump's close associates to prison because Trump has not had control of the Justice Department.  I believe this is a fact.

Roger Stone can be silenced by sending him to prison.  Any other individual in the contemporary Populist-Patriot-Alternative Media Movement could likewise be silenced by sending him or her to prison.

Why such a former FBI Director would actually  try to send some of  President Trump's people to prison is another question, which has important moral implications.

The issues in the Roger Stone case are complex, and go back to what Roger Stone  has called the "Russian Collusion Delusion, which the Democratic Party or Marxist Leftists will deny is an illusion.  This is the charge by the Left that Russians did something to help get Donald Trump elected in 2016, which goes back in time to the election year of 2016.  The Case against Roger Stone involves the E-Mails of Hillary and  Julian Assange, who might be a Villain for the Left but a Hero for some in the current Populist-Patriot and Alternative media Movement.

The Roger Stone case comes up out of the contemporary extreme division in American politics.  Politics has always tended to be a matter of the Hegelian Dialectic, or Anti-Thesis in opposition to the Thesis.  Marx is said to have "turned Hegel On His Head," meaning that Marx created an atheistic form of the dialectic.  While Hegel was an Idealist, the Marxist form of the dialectic operates without moral restraint, so that telling lies and making personal attacks upon an  opponent is allowed in the Marxist Dialectic.

And the moral question should be raised in the Roger Stone case, if it does turn out that he goes to prison for the rest of his life. 

Since our political  ideology is based upon the Northern Renaissance and the Protestant Reformation, and our Declaration of Independence historically  comes out of the  Reformation in Scotland under John Knox and Samuel Rutherford, we have to ask if American Protestant Christian Morality would be violated if a man is sent to prison for a long time when, in fact, he did no harm to an individual in his behavior for which he is sent to prison.

Historian Quentin Skinner in The Foundations of Modern Political
Thought, 1978, goes over the influence of several Scotch
and English Christians, such as John Knox and Samuel Rutherford, on John
Locke and the late 18th century American political ideology behind the creation of the Constitutional Republic.

John Locke's book, Two Treatises of Government, according to Skinner, influenced Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, and had an influence on James Madison and other Founding Fathers.

Isaiah 10: 1-2: "Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed. To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right of the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless."

There are some other verses in the Old Testament about the right of the people.

John Knox and Samuel Rutherford in Scotland, created, from scripture, a view that supported the right of the common people to oppose a totalitarian government, which does not respect the rights of the people. These ideas
of Knox and Rutherford were secularized by John Locke and
Thomas Jefferson made them into the Declaration of Independence, one of
our founding documents which does briefly state a political ideology.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.."

I believe that English Common Law tended toward the position that criminal behavior consists of crimes against individuals - such as depriving individuals of their possessions, murdering them or causing them physical injury.

A small glimmer of things to come.

Blade
Title: Re: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonigh
Post by: bernardpyron on February 10, 2019, 06:22:45 pm
"A small glimmer of things to come.

Blade"

I know that dispensationalism predicts a time of Great Tribulation at the end of the Church Age.  But this prediction certainly does not mean that Christians as being  born again individuals, transformed by the Holy Spirit, should not oppose the attack of the Left and not get out on the field in this battle.  In fact a spiritually reduced Christianity in the churches now will only give the Leftists an advantage in the battle to come.  That spiritual reduction can come  out of a revolt against Reformation Theology - that is not a systematic Calvinism as in Five Point Calvinism but in the commentaries of Calvin himself before he died.  Calvin died relatively young, his dates being 1509 to 1564.  I believe it was his successors  who formulated the more systematic Calvinism many now take for Calvinism and Reformation Theology  - or "Replacement Theology" in dispensationalism.
Title: Re: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonigh
Post by: patrick jane on August 28, 2020, 03:17:16 pm
interesting
Title: Re: Home security footage of the FBI raiding Roger Stone's home in Florida on 'Tucker Carlson Tonigh
Post by: patrick jane on October 29, 2020, 01:36:32 pm
interesting
Poor Roger