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Title: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 27, 2018, 12:53:24 pm
When I think of the topic of fear, two passages come to mind....the first is 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

and Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.


So I thought maybe we could talk about fear....different kinds of fears, how to deal with fear, what fears are good and what are bad, etc.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 27, 2018, 06:06:42 pm
I do fear God and I have a healthy fear of heights but other than that not much fear here. I fear death because I don't know how I will die so I fear the unknown. I feel safe and protected by God.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest13 on November 28, 2018, 03:47:07 am
Most of my fears are of a parental, more worldly nature.  I worry about my kids health and safety. 
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 08:19:06 am
I do fear God and I have a healthy fear of heights but other than that not much fear here. I fear death because I don't know how I will die so I fear the unknown. I feel safe and protected by God.
Fear of death is common and talked about in scripture.  Personally I don't fear death, I welcome it but I do fear dying a slow painful, prolonged death...when I die I just want to die, end of story.....my favorite would be to fall asleep and wake in the arms of my Lord.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 08:20:34 am
Most of my fears are of a parental, more worldly nature.  I worry about my kids health and safety.
I know that one all too well.  It really hit me hard after our son died.  for a season I was fearful from anything our other kids wanted to do.  I have reconciled that with God now but in a way, all our kids were lost that day.  (long story)
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest17 on November 28, 2018, 09:43:15 am
What do I fear? If I was asked that question many years ago there would be a long list of fears. But I've seen and experienced so much in my life that there's not much left that I fear anymore. I do worry for my family, my children and grandchildren. Because there is so much that they don't know so they're not on guard and too trusting. They would probably rather not know and I can't really blame them but that puts them in danger. They don't see the world as it really is. All I can do is pray for them to be protected.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 28, 2018, 10:39:26 am
If we are completely honest with ourselves as Christians, I think the biggest fear I have is that there is no God.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 11:03:27 am
If we are completely honest with ourselves as Christians, I think the biggest fear I have is that there is no God.
I might have said the same at one time but God has made Himself very clear to me.

Story time....When I was in high school I was sitting at home one day sewing.  My sister came in the room and laid on my shoulders.  I asked her to move and she refused.  I told her to move and like siblings sometimes do, she refused.  At this point I took ahold of her arms and set her off of me.  My sister went running to my father and cried that I had scratched her, showing him an old scratch that was healing as "proof".  My father went nuts, took off his belt and began beating me with it.  If you had been witnessing that event you probably would have thought that I was getting the beating of my life, but God and I had a secret.  You see, that day that belt never touched me.  God literally stood between me and that beating.  There were neither marks from the contact nor pain from the contact, the only pain was the pain of the sins that I had committed that drove Christ to the cross.  That day I literally experienced Isaiah 53 "by His stripes I am healed".

Just one of many instances that have convinced me beyond any doubt that God is and that One day I will see Him in all of His glory.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 28, 2018, 11:08:02 am
If we are completely honest with ourselves as Christians, I think the biggest fear I have is that there is no God.
I might have said the same at one time but God has made Himself very clear to me.

Story time....When I was in high school I was sitting at home one day sewing.  My sister came in the room and laid on my shoulders.  I asked her to move and she refused.  I told her to move and like siblings sometimes do, she refused.  At this point I took ahold of her arms and set her off of me.  My sister went running to my father and cried that I had scratched her, showing him an old scratch that was healing as "proof".  My father went nuts, took off his belt and began beating me with it.  If you had been witnessing that event you probably would have thought that I was getting the beating of my life, but God and I had a secret.  You see, that day that belt never touched me.  God literally stood between me and that beating.  There were neither marks from the contact nor pain from the contact, the only pain was the pain of the sins that I had committed that drove Christ to the cross.  That day I literally experienced Isaiah 53 "by His stripes I am healed".

Just one of many instances that have convinced me beyond any doubt that God is and that One day I will see Him in all of His glory.
I too have seen enough evidence to convince me that God is with us and real. In my weaker moments of faith I just worry if there is no God when I die or sometime after death. It would be the biggest disappointment ever but I guess we wouldn't know anything, so nothing to fear.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 11:17:22 am
If we are completely honest with ourselves as Christians, I think the biggest fear I have is that there is no God.
I might have said the same at one time but God has made Himself very clear to me.

Story time....When I was in high school I was sitting at home one day sewing.  My sister came in the room and laid on my shoulders.  I asked her to move and she refused.  I told her to move and like siblings sometimes do, she refused.  At this point I took ahold of her arms and set her off of me.  My sister went running to my father and cried that I had scratched her, showing him an old scratch that was healing as "proof".  My father went nuts, took off his belt and began beating me with it.  If you had been witnessing that event you probably would have thought that I was getting the beating of my life, but God and I had a secret.  You see, that day that belt never touched me.  God literally stood between me and that beating.  There were neither marks from the contact nor pain from the contact, the only pain was the pain of the sins that I had committed that drove Christ to the cross.  That day I literally experienced Isaiah 53 "by His stripes I am healed".

Just one of many instances that have convinced me beyond any doubt that God is and that One day I will see Him in all of His glory.
I too have seen enough evidence to convince me that God is with us and real. In my weaker moments of faith I just worry if there is no God when I die or sometime after death. It would be the biggest disappointment ever but I guess we wouldn't know anything, so nothing to fear.
I guess what I have come for understand is that at least in the here and now I have a purpose for living that I see so many people don't have....maybe for me at least that is enough to give glory to God no matter.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 28, 2018, 12:46:59 pm
I might have said the same at one time but God has made Himself very clear to me.

Story time....When I was in high school I was sitting at home one day sewing.  My sister came in the room and laid on my shoulders.  I asked her to move and she refused.  I told her to move and like siblings sometimes do, she refused.  At this point I took ahold of her arms and set her off of me.  My sister went running to my father and cried that I had scratched her, showing him an old scratch that was healing as "proof".  My father went nuts, took off his belt and began beating me with it.  If you had been witnessing that event you probably would have thought that I was getting the beating of my life, but God and I had a secret.  You see, that day that belt never touched me.  God literally stood between me and that beating.  There were neither marks from the contact nor pain from the contact, the only pain was the pain of the sins that I had committed that drove Christ to the cross.  That day I literally experienced Isaiah 53 "by His stripes I am healed".

Just one of many instances that have convinced me beyond any doubt that God is and that One day I will see Him in all of His glory.
[/quote]I too have seen enough evidence to convince me that God is with us and real. In my weaker moments of faith I just worry if there is no God when I die or sometime after death. It would be the biggest disappointment ever but I guess we wouldn't know anything, so nothing to fear.
[/quote]I guess what I have come for understand is that at least in the here and now I have a purpose for living that I see so many people don't have....maybe for me at least that is enough to give glory to God no matter.
[/quote]Amen sister. I have always felt that I'm a child of God and that I am living for God and because of God. I believe so strongly that I will tell anyone I meet. That's what drives me to be on forums and post scripture and Bible study lessons. Ignorance is a sin believe it or not. Ignorance of God's word and will, I mean. So many people think they "know enough" and they think they're saved but they may not be.

Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 12:53:47 pm
I might have said the same at one time but God has made Himself very clear to me.

Story time....When I was in high school I was sitting at home one day sewing.  My sister came in the room and laid on my shoulders.  I asked her to move and she refused.  I told her to move and like siblings sometimes do, she refused.  At this point I took ahold of her arms and set her off of me.  My sister went running to my father and cried that I had scratched her, showing him an old scratch that was healing as "proof".  My father went nuts, took off his belt and began beating me with it.  If you had been witnessing that event you probably would have thought that I was getting the beating of my life, but God and I had a secret.  You see, that day that belt never touched me.  God literally stood between me and that beating.  There were neither marks from the contact nor pain from the contact, the only pain was the pain of the sins that I had committed that drove Christ to the cross.  That day I literally experienced Isaiah 53 "by His stripes I am healed".

Just one of many instances that have convinced me beyond any doubt that God is and that One day I will see Him in all of His glory.
I too have seen enough evidence to convince me that God is with us and real. In my weaker moments of faith I just worry if there is no God when I die or sometime after death. It would be the biggest disappointment ever but I guess we wouldn't know anything, so nothing to fear.
[/quote]I guess what I have come for understand is that at least in the here and now I have a purpose for living that I see so many people don't have....maybe for me at least that is enough to give glory to God no matter.
[/quote]Amen sister. I have always felt that I'm a child of God and that I am living for God and because of God. I believe so strongly that I will tell anyone I meet. That's what drives me to be on forums and post scripture and Bible study lessons. Ignorance is a sin believe it or not. Ignorance of God's word and will, I mean. So many people think they "know enough" and they think they're saved but they may not be.
[/quote]amen
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 28, 2018, 01:52:38 pm
I messed those quotes up, lol.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 01:59:52 pm
I messed those quotes up, lol.
I was just sitting here thinking about whether or not I should post here that I fear coffee drinkers....lol  I could say you have too much caffeine the reason the quotes were messed up....okay...time to get it all out of my system and stop being so ornery.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on November 28, 2018, 02:05:57 pm
I messed those quotes up, lol.
I was just sitting here thinking about whether or not I should post here that I fear coffee drinkers....lol  I could say you have too much caffeine the reason the quotes were messed up....okay...time to get it all out of my system and stop being so ornery.
Wow, you really hate coffee !!! LOL, I know you're just being silly. I love your sense of humor too. I bet if we all met in person we would have a blast.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on November 28, 2018, 02:07:48 pm
I messed those quotes up, lol.
I was just sitting here thinking about whether or not I should post here that I fear coffee drinkers....lol  I could say you have too much caffeine the reason the quotes were messed up....okay...time to get it all out of my system and stop being so ornery.
Wow, you really hate coffee !!! LOL, I know you're just being silly. I love your sense of humor too. I bet if we all met in person we would have a blast.
that would be awesome and yes I do hate coffee, when the kids make it I get a headache everytime.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on December 12, 2018, 08:26:12 pm
My biggest fear in my life right now is my mom dying. I don't know what I'll do.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on December 13, 2018, 08:59:53 am
My biggest fear in my life right now is my mom dying. I don't know what I'll do.
You will pray, endure, and seek comfort from those of us that are here for you.  You are greatly loved and we will pray that your moms death is a long way off yet.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest17 on December 13, 2018, 09:09:03 am
I think I posted my husband's NDE here on this forum. The thing is my husband was never interested in talking about NDE's or watching a tv program about it until he had one himself. He would get up and leave the room if I was watching anything having to do with NDE's. He would tell me that there was nothing to it and that it wasn't true. So when he went into cardiac arrest and it took thirty minutes to revive him, I was astonished when he started talking about having a NDE when I saw him in ICU and he was able to speak. And he continued talking about it after going home. It didn't matter to him whether anybody believed him or not. That NDE had a profound effect on him that was plain to see by all the family.

He told me some things that he wanted me to know that he learned from his NDE. One thing he told me was that he knew he had hurt some people by his words and actions and he made it a point to try and find those people and apologize. He even told me that he knew he had hurt me and he apologized.

He spoke about death and told me that I shouldn't fear death. That it was like going through a door to a better place. A place that he didn't want to leave but he did come back. A place where he was greeted by his younger brother. A place so beautiful filled with white light and love, joy and peace. He wanted to go further and beyond into that light but wasn't able to do that but instead was told that he had to go back.

He said some other things too. So when he passed away in 2000, the thing that brought me the most comfort was knowing that he had returned to that place of light that he didn't want to leave before. He was happy and was where he wanted to be.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on June 12, 2019, 04:27:34 am
I think I posted my husband's NDE here on this forum. The thing is my husband was never interested in talking about NDE's or watching a tv program about it until he had one himself. He would get up and leave the room if I was watching anything having to do with NDE's. He would tell me that there was nothing to it and that it wasn't true. So when he went into cardiac arrest and it took thirty minutes to revive him, I was astonished when he started talking about having a NDE when I saw him in ICU and he was able to speak. And he continued talking about it after going home. It didn't matter to him whether anybody believed him or not. That NDE had a profound effect on him that was plain to see by all the family.

He told me some things that he wanted me to know that he learned from his NDE. One thing he told me was that he knew he had hurt some people by his words and actions and he made it a point to try and find those people and apologize. He even told me that he knew he had hurt me and he apologized.

He spoke about death and told me that I shouldn't fear death. That it was like going through a door to a better place. A place that he didn't want to leave but he did come back. A place where he was greeted by his younger brother. A place so beautiful filled with white light and love, joy and peace. He wanted to go further and beyond into that light but wasn't able to do that but instead was told that he had to go back.

He said some other things too. So when he passed away in 2000, the thing that brought me the most comfort was knowing that he had returned to that place of light that he didn't want to leave before. He was happy and was where he wanted to be.
Amen. I worry a lot about suffering before death and the manner in which I'll die.

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

13 For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.



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Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on June 29, 2019, 11:08:52 am
We have nothing to fear in Christ.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on July 11, 2019, 05:48:37 am
We have nothing to fear in Christ.
Indeed.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: guest24 on July 11, 2019, 10:14:12 am
We have nothing to fear in Christ.
Indeed.
but we are to "fear the Lord" which is the beginning of wisdom.
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on January 24, 2020, 04:54:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEmHwjWgO4&list=WL&index=2&t=0s
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on October 02, 2020, 11:48:45 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEmHwjWgO4&list=WL&index=2&t=0s
:D
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on January 08, 2021, 11:55:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQL9ZXn7vc
Title: Re: What do you fear?
Post by: patrick jane on January 18, 2021, 09:56:02 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuqxOKG6UMU