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August 10, 2018, 03:52:59 pm Sasha says: Well played!  How many sites have you rocked the boat on the gain insite into human ignorance and enlightenment?
August 10, 2018, 03:51:23 pm toff says: I am in the process of reading Classics and Lit at Uni. I will pen a collection poesy. I am an all or nothing man. Yes.
August 10, 2018, 03:50:44 pm Sasha says: In the process*

And, I can deeply appreciate your respect for brevity.
August 10, 2018, 03:49:55 pm Sasha says: Aha!  So you are the the process of university study and you are embarking on a life’s work that will be penned or notated musically by yourself?

You are an all or nothing man and you are embarking on your magnum opus?
August 10, 2018, 03:41:58 pm toff says: Okay. My project is not so much one of shining morality as it is one of image, language and the revelation which arises out of it. But to reduce it to something as merely prosaic as say Berkeley's dialogue is a little strange to me. something closer may be the Bhagavad Gita. It is after all a philosophic-theologic treatise in verse told through dialogue. Even that would not suffice tho. If we reduce poesy to something like an assembly manual it loses its force. This is what makes a short poem superior to even a philosophic-theologic genius like Augustine or Aquinas. First comes the force. Any revelation that comes after that is merely secondary. I would even say I am so obsessed with the initial attraction that it consumes me. Philosophic or theologic texts from the PreSocs through to Hegel are only something to be dealt with out of necessity not because they genuinely matter to one. Only short poesy really achieves that and only when it has genuine effect and this initial effect is my life project.
August 10, 2018, 03:29:11 pm Sasha says: Disguises*
August 10, 2018, 03:28:33 pm Sasha says: In the walking dead, Michone was driving with Merl.

She looked over at him and said; “I’ve known evil men.  Their conscience was as light as a feather”.

Toff, yours is not.  An evil man never proclaims Himself evil, but disguised himself as an angel of light.
August 10, 2018, 03:23:13 pm toff says: That particular pursuit does not interest me. I have drive but it originates in the jungle-gym of my darkly-coloured heart.
August 10, 2018, 03:19:58 pm Sasha says: Theos ultimately defines the force behind everything.

Without drive, there is no philosophical pursuit.  I amnt sincere as well.
August 10, 2018, 03:16:43 pm toff says: Philosophy is not always a theologic pursuit. Theology is a philosophic pursuit. I amnt sincere.
August 10, 2018, 03:11:42 pm Sasha says: Un-defiled *
August 10, 2018, 03:11:08 pm Sasha says: What would you change about the religious mind set “if” you could?

Morality and Riligism are synonymous.

There is a pure religion that is undefined and I doubt you would disagree with what it is.
August 10, 2018, 03:09:26 pm Sasha says: You have*
August 10, 2018, 03:09:10 pm Sasha says: Younhave stumbled into a room of non religious people that bleed truth and exalt its search.
August 10, 2018, 03:08:22 pm Sasha says: Theology is Philosophy.  Philosophy is the foundation of poesy.  I am curious as to why you haven’t made that connection yet.  The religious only etch with pre made poesy.

The sincere bleed truth, rather than repress it.
August 10, 2018, 03:06:58 pm toff says: If what?
August 10, 2018, 03:05:38 pm Sasha says: If*
August 10, 2018, 03:05:24 pm toff says: But why does it even matter? I care about genius more than morality. I do not claim to be an expert on religion so why would I change anything? I leave that up to theologians.
August 10, 2018, 03:03:41 pm Sasha says: Why believe you don’t?  To recognize the evil Within is the beginning of recognizing the good that sustains.  

Good and Evil are a very severe division.  I can’t help but wonder where you are headed with your life’s course.

I also wonder if your true self is buried within your character.

What would you change about the collective religious mentality of you could?
August 10, 2018, 02:55:09 pm toff says: I am evil in the eyes of the rest but I am good and they are evil. That is why I say I am evil. I thought I would fit in.
August 10, 2018, 02:53:42 pm toff says: Very nice but utterly false. Language and imagery alone suffice.
August 10, 2018, 02:52:36 pm Sasha says: So, in reality, that fire is not constructed of evil, to you?
August 10, 2018, 02:51:49 pm Sasha says: I will express what it means to me.

Shadow cast that hides from light, reflecting the intentions of want.
The shadow of ideas that can never be grasped but overwhelm with gaunt.
If light were removed from breath’s sweet sway, these shadows have no substance to be.
If lights tender kiss were seen for the sustenance it is, the shadow and soul would be free.
August 10, 2018, 02:45:43 pm toff says: I am referring to a daemoniac force. I first realised this while reading a poem by Yeats.

the abstract joy, / The half-read wisdom of daemonic images, / Suffice the ageing man as once the growing Boy
August 10, 2018, 02:42:41 pm Sasha says: To be sincere, I journaled for a time, but then I began to write without giving my mind time to process what I wrote.

After that, I ceased to Journal and began to express large ideas through poesy.

What does the daemonic flame symbolize to you, in a poesy expressed way?
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