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Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« on: October 19, 2018, 04:03:39 pm »




Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?



Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a Christian?

Romans 3:23 -25 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;  being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Romans 8:35-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.




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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2018, 08:37:33 pm »
Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?


Can someone who is a part of the LGBT community be a Christian?

Well ... can someone who is living a promiscuous lifestyle (adultery, sex outside of marriage, etc.) be a Christian?  My college youth pastor who sang at my wedding, ended up divorced after committing adultery with the wife of the music director.  I knew them all for years.  Does that invalidate their salvation?

I don't know.  What I do know is that I always see adultery as being a more serious sin than promiscuity and fornication because it interferes with a marriage and family.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 08:40:50 am »
Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a wide-eyed slip of a girl?

The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide, they put themselves in great danger, they will incur chastisement even death.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2018, 10:19:50 pm »
Is it at all in line with Paul's gospel to be taught by a wide-eyed slip of a girl?

The answer is homosexuals can be saved and then backslide, they put themselves in great danger, they will incur chastisement even death.



I doubt very seriously that a homosexual who says they were saved and then backslide was saved at all. I personally do not believe in "Carnal Christians"

Jesus who knew you before you were born and knows whether you are true to your word with him or NOT.

If Homosexuals think they can fool Him then they have the same mentality as the World's army, at the coming Armageddon, thinking they can take on GOD (Jesus Christ) and win!

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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 06:36:52 am »
We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is backslide into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first experience of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback and eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]

But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing off all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as wicked as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of losing his salvation, but he was to be punished and his punishment did include being chucked out of the assembly. He did attain to forgiveness.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2018, 11:11:53 am »
We all backslide dear Blade, the first thing we do is backslide into our familiar sins, how well I remember my first experience of it...I mourned for days. Then began the fightback and eventual victory over sin [His victory of course]

But here we are speaking about wilful sin I think, throwing off all restraint like the wicked fellow at Corinth, but as wicked as he was Paul could not say that he was in danger of losing his salvation, but he was to be punished and his punishment did include being chucked out of the assembly. He did attain to forgiveness.

Doesn't it seem like one standard should hold for any sin?  Adultery, fornication, etc.    I mean it's either if you sin, you lose your salvation and were never saved to begin with OR ... even those who are saved still backslide and sin.

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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2018, 12:56:02 pm »
The question is totally one of whether we can abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing Christ


If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.

But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.


But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.
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Re: Can Someone Living a Gay Lifestyle Be a Christian?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2018, 08:32:08 pm »
The question is totally one of whether we can abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing Christ


If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.

But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.


But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.


Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they backslide is :"
they need to get out of that."


WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT  their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have. How many times (if this applies).

And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as He told us:

John 6:39..."And this is the Fatherís will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. "

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The question is totally one of whether we can abandon ourselves to any sinful lifestyle, you are right. The thief can no longer steal, the liar can no longer lie while professing Christ


If they did not repent of those things they were not saved, if they were saved but fall back to those things they are in a backslidden condition, they need to get out of that.

But if they then throw off all restraint and sin wilfully they are in a potentially awful place. The bible speaks about the assembly giving the wilful sinner over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.


But flagrant sin cannot be tolerated in the assembly.


Whoa wait a minute. all you got if they backslide is :"
they need to get out of that."


WHAT IF THEY DO NOT QUIT  their Backslide (sinning). Does Jesus simply continue to look the other way. How long do they have. How many times (if this applies).

And if they lose their Salvation: Does this make Jesus a Liar as He told us:

John 6:39..."And this is the Fatherís will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. "

Blade

Good point Blade. Someone that continues is willful sin may not have been saved to begin with.
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No one advocating sin, any sin, is in a saving relationship with God.  BUT there are plenty of us at war with ourselves, struggling with the flesh that are saved and covered by His grace.

If you advocate sin you don't understand sin.  If I stepped barefoot into dog poo, I would just shrug it off, ignore my condition and track the stuff in the house and all through it.

Sin is worse than dog poo ona a summer bare foot!
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No one advocating sin, any sin, is in a saving relationship with God.  BUT there are plenty of us at war with ourselves, struggling with the flesh that are saved and covered by His grace.

If you advocate sin you don't understand sin.  If I stepped barefoot into dog poo, I would just shrug it off, ignore my condition and track the stuff in the house and all through it.

Sin is worse than dog poo ona a summer bare foot!
Good post
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No one advocating sin, any sin, is in a saving relationship with God.  BUT there are plenty of us at war with ourselves, struggling with the flesh that are saved and covered by His grace.

If you advocate sin you don't understand sin.  If I stepped barefoot into dog poo, I would just shrug it off, ignore my condition and track the stuff in the house and all through it.

Sin is worse than dog poo ona a summer bare foot!
Good post

A gay lifestyle is a 24-7 sin.... there is no way, one can be saved and in that situation.  Those still in this SIN at their death will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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