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Author Topic: Take A Closer Look At Romans 11: 26:  (Read 2808 times)

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Re: Take A Closer Look At Romans 11: 26:
« on: February 18, 2019, 07:54:19 pm »
Zechaiah 12: 10 says "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

I have seen Zechariah 12: 10 quoted before as a defense of dispensationalism's postulate that Old Covenant Israel  remains the Chosen People of God.
and as a support for the dispensationalist interpretation of Romans 11: 26 that Israel must refer to the multitude of Old Covenant Israel, or Israel after the flesh (I Corinthians 10: 18).

But like Amos  9: 11-12, and some other Old Testament prophecies, such as Micah 4: 6-7. Zechariah 12: 10 is an Old Testament prophecy of the restoration of Old Covenant Israel.

James deals very briefly with Amos 9: 11-12 in Acts 15: 14-18:  "Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15.     And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16.     After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17.     That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18.     Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world."

James says the words of the Old Testament prophets agree that God was to include the Gentiles in his people.

Amos 9: 11-12 in the King James Version says "In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
12.     That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this."   There is nothing about the Gentiles seeking after the Lord in the King James Version for Amos 9: 11-12, which is interesting.

This probably means that James was using the Septuagint, which says for Amos 9: 11-12, " In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and will rebuild the ruins of it, and will set up the parts thereof that have been broken down, and will build it up as in the ancient days: 12 that the remnant of men, and all the Gentiles upon whom my name is called, may earnestly seek [me], saith the Lord who does all these things."

The Septuagint for Amos 9: 11-12 does say the gentiles will seek God.

Note thought that James says the prophets - of the Old Testament - not just Amos 9: 11-12 agree that God was to include the Gentiles in his people.Zechariah 12: 10 does not say that God is to include the Gentiles as part of his people.

MIcah 4: 6-7 says "In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
7.     And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever."

Micah 4: 6-7 in the Septuagint says "In that day, saith the Lord, I will gather her that is bruised, and will receive her that is cast out, and those whom I rejected. 7 And I will make her that was bruised a remnant, and her that was rejected a mighty nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Sion from henceforth, even for ever."

James may mean than all the Old Testament prophecies on the restoration of Old Covenant Israel agree that in that restoration God was to include Gentiles, which suggests that this restoration is the New Covenant itself.

The question is why would Christians be drawn to a man made theology which focuses more on the multitude of physical Old Covenant Israel than it does on Jesus Christ and his Gospel which is able to transform people into new creations.








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