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Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat  the Eugenics Movement?

In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its complete state.  I found a similar post of mine to post now.

In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to meaningfully oppose eugenics."

Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?

What is Eugenics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites in the corporate and financial world may not want the more intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because that can threaten the ruling elite's power.

"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate, through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically, mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions, sterilization, and other methods of family planning."

Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?

"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6

"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4

Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3: 4-5

"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost" is from "δια λουτρου παλιγγενεσιας και ανακαινωσεως πνευματος αγιου." It says "through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."

Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσιας, or paliggenesia, see:
http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm "a new birth, regeneration, renewal."

I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for
ever." The Greek word here is αναγεγεννημενο, or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313. ἀναγεννάω (anagennaó) -- to beget again -
https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......" be born
again, born anew."

The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.

John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God."

The key word for regeneration is εγεννηθησαν, or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm. Since it says "were born not of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man: but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 12: 2 talks about - the μεταμορφουσθε τη ανακαινωσει του νοος- the metamorphosis by the renewing of your mind.

John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man: but of God."

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II Corinthians 5: 17

"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27

See: https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/

"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem. In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:

They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment. These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem with our
view of regeneration?”

I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."

R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have received Christ.

Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also be other Christians who are not transformed.

Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.

Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an effective argument against eugenics.

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Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat  the Eugenics Movement?

In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its complete state.  I found a similar post of mine to post now.

In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to meaningfully oppose eugenics."

Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?

What is Eugenics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites in the corporate and financial world may not want the more intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because that can threaten the ruling elite's power.

"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate, through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically, mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions, sterilization, and other methods of family planning."

Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?

"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6

"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4

Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3: 4-5

"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost" is from "δια λουτρου παλιγγενεσιας και ανακαινωσεως πνευματος αγιου." It says "through the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."

Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσιας, or paliggenesia, see:
http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm "a new birth, regeneration, renewal."

I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for
ever." The Greek word here is αναγεγεννημενο, or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313. ἀναγεννάω (anagennaó) -- to beget again -
https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......" be born
again, born anew."

The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.

John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God."

The key word for regeneration is εγεννηθησαν, or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm. Since it says "were born not of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man: but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 12: 2 talks about - the μεταμορφουσθε τη ανακαινωσει του νοος- the metamorphosis by the renewing of your mind.

John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man: but of God."

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II Corinthians 5: 17

"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27

See: https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/

"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem. In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:

They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment. These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem with our
view of regeneration?”

I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."

R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have received Christ.

Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also be other Christians who are not transformed.

Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.

Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an effective argument against eugenics.

Ah, the days of Noah!

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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