+- +-

+- User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+-Stats ezBlock

Members
Total Members: 118
Latest: Abrasileira
New This Month: 0
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 15011
Total Topics: 839
Most Online Today: 133
Most Online Ever: 771
(July 30, 2019, 01:13:39 am)
Users Online
Members: 1
Guests: 114
Total: 115

Author Topic: Tyndale's Translation of Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's Claim of New Testament Authority For Dis  (Read 8886 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

bernardpyron

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Moderator
  • Jr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 70
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Tyndale's Translation of  Oikonomia and Dispensationalism's Claim of New Testament Authority For Dispensations

See: https://craigcfisher.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/353/

"Ephesians 3: 2: "If netheles ye han herd the dispensacioun of Godd is grace, that is youun to me in you."

This is from Wycliffe’s Bible, of about 1382, which is a Catholic English translation of the Latin Vulgate New Testament.

"The English word dispensation or Old English dispensacioun is from the Latin dispensatio."

From: https://studybible.info/MSTC/Colossians

Tyndale Bible in Modern English:

See: http://www.themoorings.org/doctrine/...rsions/WH.htm

"It will be seen that in these nine chapters more than 83% of the words in the Geneva Version were taken direct from Tyndale, and more than 81% of the words in the King James Version. I believe this sample is statistically valid for the whole New Testament." Tyndale's accuracy in translating the Textus Receptus into English is shown in the use of his English word choices and sentence structures by the committees that created the Geneva Bible and the King James Version."

I Corinthians 9: 17: "If I do it with a good will, I have a reward. But if I do it against my will, an office is committed unto me."

Tyndale translates oikonomia as Office

Ephesians 1: 9-10: "And hath opened unto us the mystery of his will according to his pleasure, and purposed 10 the same in himself to have it declared when the time were full come: that all things, both the things which are in heaven, and also the things which are in earth, should be gathered together, even in Christ."

I am not sure which English word for Tyndale's translation of Ephesians 1: 10. It might be time for oikonomia.

Ephesians 3: 2-5: " If ye have heard of the ministration of the grace of God which is given me to you ward - 3 For by revelation showed he this mystery unto me, as I wrote above in few words, 4 whereby, when ye read ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ, 5 which mystery in times past was not opened unto the sons of men as it is now declared unto his holy apostles and prophets by the spirit:"

Ministration is the Tyndale translation of oikonomia.

Colossians 1: 24-26: "Now joy I in my sufferings which I suffer, for you; and fulfill that which is behind of the passions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the congregation - 25 whereof am I made a minister according to the ordinance of God, which ordinance was given me unto you ward, to fulfill the word of God: 26 that mystery, hid since the world began, and since the beginning of generations: But now is opened to his saints,"

Ordinance is the Tyndale translation of oikonomia here.

Tyndale broke with the Catholic Wycliffe translation of oikonomia as dispensation.

Remember that Tyndale does not use a consistent translation of oikonomia, but uses office, ministration and ordinance.

From Wycliffe’s Bible, of about 1382, which is a Catholic English translation of the Latin Vulgate New Testament, "The English word dispensation or Old English dispensacioun is from the Latin dispensatio."

Just as the Wycliffe Catholic English Bible of 1382 translated ekklesia as chirche (in old English spelling), and
Tyndale broke from the Catholic translation of ekklesia and used congregation consistently, so Tyndale did not follow the Catholic translation of oikonomia as "dispensation." This is interesting.

It does not support the argument of dispensationalism that the New Testament itself supports the foundation of the church theology called dispensationalism - in the meanings of oikonomia.

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter

Winner Winner x 1 View List

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
1 Replies
1713 Views
Last post January 05, 2019, 11:22:28 am
by bernardpyron
7 Replies
1755 Views
Last post January 14, 2019, 07:07:06 pm
by Bladerunner
2 Replies
3124 Views
Last post February 15, 2019, 04:55:43 pm
by Bladerunner
0 Replies
931 Views
Last post February 04, 2020, 10:36:58 am
by Lori Bolinger
0 Replies
1413 Views
Last post April 01, 2020, 09:07:04 pm
by Bladerunner

+-Recent Topics

Wesleyan Theology by patrick jane
Today at 06:05:24 pm

Conspiracy - NWO, NASA and More by patrick jane
Today at 05:29:40 pm

Child Abuse Is Not Funny by truthjourney
Today at 04:10:28 pm

Creepy Joe Biden by Sherman
Today at 02:42:35 pm

Christianity Today Magazine - August 2020 by patrick jane
Today at 01:08:13 pm

Aethereal - Battle for Heaven and Earth by patrick jane
Today at 12:43:16 pm

End Times - Tracking The Signs by patrick jane
Today at 12:42:44 pm

Revelation - Last Days by patrick jane
Today at 12:42:04 pm

VIDEO MINISTRY BY LION OF JUDAH by patrick jane
Today at 12:41:34 pm

The AIDS hoax by Firestarter
Today at 11:42:58 am

Prayer Wall by Chaplain Mark Schmidt
Today at 11:16:17 am

Chaplain's Chat by Chaplain Mark Schmidt
Today at 11:10:40 am

Scriptures - Verse Of The Day and Discussion by Chaplain Mark Schmidt
Today at 11:06:45 am

Marriage & Family by patrick jane
Today at 07:56:15 am

DEREK PRINCE MINISTRIES by patrick jane
Today at 07:55:53 am

CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE by patrick jane
Today at 07:33:36 am

Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos by patrick jane
Today at 07:31:52 am

Expectations of the Antichrist - Chuck Missler by patrick jane
Today at 05:59:13 am