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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2019, 08:58:25 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2019, 01:53:51 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.
Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth. Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted and explained in detail.








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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2019, 10:45:53 am »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.
Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth. Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted and explained in detail.








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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2019, 12:39:28 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I might be able to help you answer some of your questions.

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You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.

Quote
You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?

Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and "planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not above the earth?

If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:

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Quote from: Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.

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Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again, because that view is reserved for God and even if they could they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is true.

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I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man. Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.

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The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.

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How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and fro around the sun.

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The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to de-brainwash ourselves of them.

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Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate, but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick around here long enough.

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I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped convince me there was something worth looking into.  The tilt of the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun. Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a foundation of sand.

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P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.

Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2019, 08:54:34 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I might be able to help you answer some of your questions.

Quote
You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.

Quote
You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?

Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and "planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not above the earth?

If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:

Quote
Quote from: Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.

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Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again, because that view is reserved for God and even if they could they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is true.

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I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man. Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.

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The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.

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How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and fro around the sun.

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The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to de-brainwash ourselves of them.

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Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate, but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick around here long enough.

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I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped convince me there was something worth looking into.  The tilt of the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun. Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a foundation of sand.

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With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.

Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.

Good evening sneakydove. I hope this finds you well today.

NO, you do not have to believe the Earth is Flat to be in this forum!!!!!
 
What we do best is help with the Bible (KJV) and GOD's WORD.

God's Word (every Syllable) is pure and true and if we follow it, all will be known when  we are with Him (Jesus) in heaven.

Here I can debate and/or help you with God's Sovereignty over man's evil finality.

Again, welcome to FFE, I hope you enjoy your stay.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2019, 06:35:53 pm »
Dear Sneakydove,

I read all of your post and commend you for your hard work typing it here.  I hope that you will understand that I cannot go into your post's depth as much as I'd like because of time limitations.  I will do my best here.  I also do not know how to answer you paragraph by paragraph, so I have to answer you in general.  Do you know what I mean?

The Earth is a sphere because, as the Earth compresses on itself, it condenses and forces the circular sphere to keep growing tighter and tighter together, because being a circle, it locks together very tight indeed.  It can only compress only so much that the shape of a sphere cannot be drawn inward so much more.  Volcanoes and earthquakes solve the pressure emanating from being a condensed sphere.

The magnetism and gravity of the Earth are resultant of a circle condensed solidly around a core.  Where do we get magnetism?  This compressing of the land and sea around the circumference of the Earth causes the great heat at the center.  If the Earth didn't have moving plates, the Earth would compress upon itself.

I doubt that we have tons of flat heavenly bodies that we call planets, stars, and black holes strewn throughout the Universe.  But it is according to what each of us believes.

The light from the stars is caused by the energy from God's spirit within them, just like Jesus' soul/ spirit glowed during His transfiguration.  This is what I was told.  God's spirit does have a lot of energy in it.  This energy gives off great light.

The result of the spheres compressing on themselves causes heat.  I don't know how else to explain this to you right now because I am out of time.  Will chat with you again soon.

I will tell you though, that the Lord told me about the bottomless pit being hell, that the Earth was round, and there would be no bottomless pit if the Earth was flat.  Well, He just told me that Earth was a sphere when He told me about hell being the bottomless pit and where that pit was.  It was a shocking revelation from Him, to say the least.  It's up to you to believe what you want to, of course.

Okay, got to run.  It's been a life for me so far.  May God Increase Your Love Considerably!!

Michael

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2019, 07:59:48 pm »
@Blade:  Thanks! 

@Michael:  I know all about volcanoes and gravity and the stars are also suns and other planets and NASA and everything like that.  That stuff helped to deceive me away from Christ. I grew up loosely Anglican.  I went to a Christian summer camp which thankfully gave me something of a grounding.  But everything I was learning in school was contrary to what was here.  Even though I was at a Christian camp I never really understood the gospel. 

Then it's off to University with all sorts of sins and temptations everywhere and nobody thinks the bible is good for anything, bar one or two people in my immediate circle.  Whatever the case, I have a crisis of faith and start looking for other books.  I end up going into science texts.  However I seem to see errors there that others don't, but since everybody seems to agree on this stuff I'll go along with it, but mostly I just follow Sci-Fi.

Then I have an encounter with truly evil occulted stuff going on in very close proximity to where I live.  I brush it off, but within six months things get very weird.  Now I'm suddenly deep into conspiracies and lo and be hold, thanks to my encounter, I discover that there are actual evil people in the world, and more than that devils and unclean spirits and etcetera are actually real things.  I repent and ask Jesus into my heart.  I broke out into cold sweats and there was some other presence inside me that did not like what was happening.  It was soon over and I'm in a cold sweat wondering what just happened?

So now I have a far more direct experience that yes, God and Jesus and the Bible are definitely real and so then I try to reconcile that with what I (think) I know of the world.  I try mushing science into the Bible.  Things aren't fitting and just don't make sense.  Eventually after a rough week spiritually speaking I pray and say something to the effect of, "God, I trust you.  I don't understand what's going on, but I trust you.  If there's anything else for me to see and tell others about, let me see it if you're willing."  The next day, I see a flat earth video.  I think, Yeah, why not.  I watch it. 

Well now, this makes actual sense and accords with the Bible!  The sun and the moon are the same size. They are not material objects but are lights.  The earth was made before the sun and the moon.  The flood could be real.  Evolution absolutely cannot be!  It makes for a very swift "don't let the door kick you on the way out" type of exit from strict Materialism and into Biblical Literalism.  I then understood what it means when Jesus tells us we must be like children.  I tried bringing all of my understanding of the world and things just didn't mesh.  I had to start my mind and world view totally afresh. 

I'm not the only one either.  Flat earth as a concept has booted many an Atheist or otherwise Materialist swiftly into the arms of The Lord.  The channel The Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction has a good video on that which I can link to you if you are willing to make time to watch it. The argument that if the tree bears good fruit goes along way if it's drawing people to Jesus rather than away from Him.

Normally I debate these sorts of topics with atheists in the hopes it will make them analyze what effectively amounts to their holy books in the form of Newton's Principia, Einstein's General Relativity, or anything by Carl Sagan.  Broaching these subjects with Christians I thought would be easier as I would have to spend less of my Humanities background learning mathematical engineering concepts just to talk with these guys and more time with actual textual analysis or even just a few simple Bible verses.  Of course, as I can see from the efforts of others, it's not that simple.

That said, I don't think Flat Earth is entirely a salvational issue, however I don't have much truck in the theology of anyone who doesn't entertain it and still follows the Anti-Gospel of Jet Propulsion Labs and NASA (which was run by a practicing satanist if you're wondering.) 

As an aside, I'm a natural typist and wordsmith so don't think my typing a lot of words necessarily takes me a great deal of effort.  It's one of those gifts God's allowed me to have.

Cheers Michael.  I understand your time is precious and I don't really feel I need to convince you.  Just know that when you try to talk the flat earth out of me you're not getting anywhere.  Once you know the truth, you don't let it go.  If you find that sentiment offensive, that I don't consider the globe to be the truth, why?

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2019, 08:02:42 pm »
Dear Sneakydove,

I can't answer you completely today, but wanted to say that the Lord can stop the rotation of the Earth for long enough to help Joshua.  God can certainly do that.  Will chat soon, hopefully tomorrow or so.  I will probably add to this post ASAP.  Thanks!


Hey Sneakydove,

I have some time tonight, so I'll post a little.  What I'd like to know is how deep or thick is this Flat Earth?  How is extreme pressure built up so much that it has to release and spew out of the Earth, if there is no gravity.  A round Earth means that gravity is constantly trying to pull the top of the sphere toward or into the middle.

Being a sphere, the crust gets extreme resistance upon itself, because a sphere compacting upon itself is where the Pressure begins and a sphere has nowhere to go if it is sinking towards it's center.  Things stabilize by the Earth coming inward and also flying outward while it spins so fast.

A sphere is round and so it cannot go anywhere inward.  Spheres can't contract because they have no spacers anywhere.  The sidewalk can expand and contract to ease it's problems of winter and summer.  Do you know what I am saying here?  That's why a round circumference stays the same and doesn't cave in on itself.

I was told that the center of the Earth was the bottomless pit, or Hell.  It is very hot there because of the compacting and pressure of Earth trying to fall back into it's center, caused by strong gravity.  If gravity is strong enough to move the ocean tides, than we must realize that gravity exists on the Earth and also the Moon.  It's the moon that moves the waves by it rotating on the Earth.

How about Saturn being a sphere, also?  Does it have only constant fixed rainbows or are they rings instead?  It Saturn is a sphere, then why not the Earth?  If you go far to the East of Earth, why don't you drop off the shelf of it?  Why don't we hear about persons taking a step too far over the edge of the Flat Earth and falling?

A pit on a Flat Earth would have a bottom if it were flat.  Why does the Lord God say instead, the 'bottomless' pit?  A pit on a Flat Earth would have a bottom.  But, being a sphere, the bottom is instead a 'center' and the top of the Earth is the top, where everyone is living.  Where is the End or most West land on the Earth before ending and which country is there to butt up to another country?  Why does a ship sailing West not fall off the edge of the land, if it is Flat?  Where does that ship go?  When does West end??  Where does East end?  How come we can keep traveling around the Earth without coming to the Edge?

The Moon creates gravity on the ocean waves so that they are rushing.  The moon circling the Earth makes the tides move a certain way.  The Earth must be moving with tons of gravity in the center, to spin around, which throws water and land on the circumference outward and slings whatever is on top outward from the spinning around.  Strong gravity from the Earth's iron core is magnetically locking the Earthly magnet to compact with great force.

If this was a Flat Earth, why would there be any gravity at all?  There would be no sphere trying to compact upon itself and so no extraordinary friction or great heat at the center would even matter.  Why do we see countries continuing as we travel West and we never fall off the Flat Earth or the sea.  The sea conducts electricity or magnetism and stays where it is because of gravity and the magnetic core.

Which countries are located on each Edge of this Flat Earth?  How do we continue to travel West endlessly without falling off?  What is there, gravity underneath the Flat Earth?  How is it created to travel from country to country back to the same country that you passed earlier if it is flat and not round?  Why do we see different views of the countries according to a picture that is produced by a satellite?  Why can't the satellite take one picture that includes all of the countries and seas of the World in one pose?

How deep is the ground on this Flat Earth?  If it is deep or not deep, and it is not round, then it must be like a humongous rectangle or box.  It must have a flat bottom, unless it has a semicircular bottom.  You see how the pressure and gravity increases as you travel further down in the ocean.  The water starts crushing in on your body to where it is a final destruction.  That is gravity and the heaviness of the water.

I could go on with more, most likely, but this will have to do for starters.  Let me know what you think.  Someone is not playing with a full deck here.  God could make the Earth be a sphere, for He is spectacular and quite able to do it.  Or He could make it Flat, but how would there be a bottomless pit in the center, not a top or bottom.  Without gravity, how does the feather and snow, or hail, fall from the top of the air above to the ground?  What makes 'down' the way that things should fall?  There Must be gravity.  How does this gravity exist in the first place?

Hey, I could go on, but I digress.  I want to know what you think of this info. 

Michael



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