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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2019, 03:39:48 pm »
It's possible Robin and welcome. Thanks for joining. How did you find us? Remember that just last week NASA announced we're going back to the moon by 2024 to STAY !!! So, that will be the "New Face" for the next generation. The globe is losing though because 35% of Millennials believe in the flat earth.






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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2019, 03:44:50 am »
Howdy Patrick!

I am  answering an email that you sent.  I can believe the Earth is a sphere, which is where my heart lies, because of certain experiences that I've had during my life.  I can't say that you are wrong though, because it is possible that you are right and I am not.  I haven't pondered the subject enough, to be fair.  Doesn't really matter to me, though.  I just enjoy chatting with you and you're a very enjoyable, and sincere person.

May God Be There When You Look Over Your Shoulder!

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 06:01:39 am »
BUZZ ALDRIN REVEALS the MOON LANDING TRUTH!

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2019, 08:40:11 pm »
Hey PJ and TJ,

There is some interesting info here.  I will have to look at it and read it more closely.  I have to find time to watch the videos.  Today, I have to go and get some canned cat food from Petsmart.  It's kind of far.  Then, I've got to make dinner and eat.  We're having Filet Mignons and a nice salad.  It will take me a while to put the salad together.  I've also got to put the new aquarium filter in the tank.  It is for a 90-gal. tank.  I put two of them in my aquarium to keep it extra-clean.

Tomorrow, I am going to try to see my nephew who is in the hospital.  He has a pulmonary embolism and they are giving him strong blood thinners to see if that will help.  I think, otherwise, they will have to take it out of his lung during an operation.  I am also going to watch Bohemian Rhapsody on DVD, which I rented on Fri.  I have it now so that I can watch it without it being unavailable at Walmart.

So. I will try to check out videos here ASAP.  I've watched one and it was pretty interesting.  But, I have to see more videos, yet.

Well, I've got to run now to the store.  They close in an hour.

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2019, 08:58:25 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2019, 01:53:51 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.
Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth. Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted and explained in detail.








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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2019, 10:45:53 am »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.
Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth. Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted and explained in detail.








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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2019, 12:39:28 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I might be able to help you answer some of your questions.

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You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.

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You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?

Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and "planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not above the earth?

If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:

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Quote from: Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.

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Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again, because that view is reserved for God and even if they could they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is true.

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I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man. Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.

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The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.

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How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and fro around the sun.

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The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to de-brainwash ourselves of them.

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Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate, but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick around here long enough.

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I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped convince me there was something worth looking into.  The tilt of the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun. Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a foundation of sand.

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With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.

Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2019, 08:54:34 pm »
Dear patrick & blade,

I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth when I subscribed to this Forum.  I do not believe the Earth is flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.  If you want to be rid of me, fine.

Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I might be able to help you answer some of your questions.

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You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth.  The water in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us.  If it's God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand further how Great He is.

Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.

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You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat.  Why do you doubt His Power to do this with spheres instead??  I don't know if we made it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did.  I also believe our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and found them to also be spheres.  What about the tectonic plates on moving our land?

Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?

Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and "planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not above the earth?

If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:

Quote
Quote from: Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.

Quote from: MichaelC
Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in seasons?  Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?  Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat Earth??

Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again, because that view is reserved for God and even if they could they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is true.

Quote
I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one wants to say anything.  That is how he screws up the wonder of how God has created each planet and star.  You think that the Sun just goes across a Flat Earth??  Where does it go when it sinks below the Flat Earth?  Underneath the Flat Earth?  Also, how about the moon?

Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man. Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.

Quote
The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.  God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.  I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top, but no Bottom.  That is how the Center of the Earth is also called the Bottomless Pit.  The Earth has no bottom, because it only has a top and a center.

Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.

Quote
How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat?  We are told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.  We are here, in the latter days right now.  If the Earth moves at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it doesn't.  The other planets move slower because their circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.

If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and fro around the sun.

Quote
The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava and magma.  Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force up the magma stored in the Earth.  Don't you realize that the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties that it gets so pressurized.  This causes the lava to spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.

The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to de-brainwash ourselves of them.

Quote
Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here.  Of course, you can have your beliefs, also.  I do not want to debate this subject, because I have enough to do.  I am swamped with work to do all day.  I have work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums, plus all of my regular email.  I have reached over 75,000 persons on just one of my websites.  Then, I have tons of work to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's occupants, including four cats.

Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate, but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick around here long enough.

Quote
I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept quiet long enough.  I don't understand how you can believe what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up  with the whole thing.  How Thick is this flat Earth?  Is China supposed to be on  the Bottom side of the Flat Earth?  What kind of gravity keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat?  The Flat Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other things?  How deep does this flat earth have to be?  Well, I'm going.

Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped convince me there was something worth looking into.  The tilt of the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun. Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a foundation of sand.

Quote
With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,

Michael

P.S.  If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips sealed and say nothing.  Just like if you had bad breath.

Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.

Good evening sneakydove. I hope this finds you well today.

NO, you do not have to believe the Earth is Flat to be in this forum!!!!!
 
What we do best is help with the Bible (KJV) and GOD's WORD.

God's Word (every Syllable) is pure and true and if we follow it, all will be known when  we are with Him (Jesus) in heaven.

Here I can debate and/or help you with God's Sovereignty over man's evil finality.

Again, welcome to FFE, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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