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Quote from: garee on September 08, 2021, 09:38:04 pm

   It is noteworthy that Mani, who was brought up and spent most of his life in a province of the Persian empire, and whose mother belonged to a famous Parthian family,4 did not make any use of the Iranian mythological tradition. There can no longer be any doubt that the Iranian names of Sām, Narīmān, etc., that appear in the Persian and Sogdian versions of the Book of the Giants, did not figure in the original edition, written by Mani in the Syriac language.5 His disciples, who, it is well known, were in the habit of p. 53 translating every word of a text (including the names of months, deities, etc.), seen fit also to "translate" the names of the giants. Thus Sām is merely the translation of Ohya. However, they kept some of the original names (e.g. Šhmyz’d), and adapted some others (e.g. Wrwgd’d).1

   The story of the fallen angels and their giant sons needed little adaptation to be fitted into Mani's system. Of course, the heavenly origin of the B’nē-hā-Elōhīm2 of Genesis vi, 2, 4, the ’Εγρήγοροι, of the Book of Enoch, did not square with Mani's conviction that no evil could come from good. Therefore he transformed them into "demons", namely those demons that when the world was being constructed had been imprisoned in the skies under the supervision of the Rex Honoris. They rebelled and were recaptured, but two hundred of them escaped to the earth. Mani also used the term ’Εγρήγοροι (preserved in Coptic, see texts L, M, P, S), or rather ‘yr in Aramaic (once in a Middle Persian fragment, text D), but in Eastern sources they are mostly referred to as "demons" (Pers. dyw’n, Parth. dyw’n in T 6, Sogd. δywt in G, H 17, K 7, cytyt in E, δywt ZY ykšyšt in H. 16).

   The puzzling clause of Genesis vi, 4: "The Nephilim were on the earth those days," was interpreted by Mani in this fashion: "when the Egrēgoroi descended, the animals, or proto-animals, were already in existence." Mani confused nəfīlīm with nefäl (näfäl) = ἔκτρωμα: see Nöldeke, ZDMG., 43 (1889), 536, who rightly referred to the formula of abjuration (P.Gr., i, 1461) where the giants and the "abortions" are mentioned in one breath. In Manichæan parlance, "abortion" (cf. also MPers. ’bg’ng, Sogd. pš’q) is synonymous with "animal".

First I would offer there is no book of of Enoch .There is the prophecy spoken of by Enoch it is written in the bible. The last book is still the book of Revelation sealed with seven seals  a warning to those who would add to the perfect. By which we can try  to see if inspired by God or by men as I heard it through the grape vine oral traditions as a law of the fathers.

Enoch is not the only one give those words of prophecy .

Moses was also given the signified number that represents the whole church (ten thousands of saints) old and new, testament saints that make up the one bride the church .

Deuteronomy 33:2 And he said, The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

The renown were giants of faith moved by the power of the Holy Spirit.  They as sons of God were being unevenly yoked with unbelievers called daughters of men.

Renown like little David who killed the renown of the enemy  Goliath . Renown not having anything to do with how tall a person is . The word renown is used 9 time in the bible to represent the mighty men of faith . The supernatural superstars or hero's of faith

look up the Kandar Giant story was true?

Blade

Tyhe Giant story has no witness coming from the word of God and we do not know Christ after the corrupted rudiments after the philosophies of this world to begin with .

I would suggest look up how the phrase "sons of God" They are used 11 times directly to identify born again believers never once to represent lying spirt of Satan .And the word "renown" . . mighty men of faith moved by the Spirit of Christ from within  it is used 9 times. 


The teaching is simply. .  "do not be unevenly yoked with daughters of men" (natural unconverted mankind) . There were sons of God  believers that denied Christ  violating the spiritual seed Christ according to the genealogy of the Son of man, Jesus . . .even after the flood .

Genesis 38:8-10 King James Version And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.


The same warning of Genesis 6 applies today.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?