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Luminaries Video: Pondering
« on: February 05, 2019, 11:36:29 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjOCCOlx1Y4

I've been watching this video and all I can think of is why anyone would think they can see half the globe's sky at ground level on a clear night. Just how high up do we see? Would we also see half the globe if we ascend 100,000 feet and look down? Higher? How much higher? How much can we make out?
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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2019, 09:18:18 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CiTdWcimTE&fbclid

I've been watching this video and all I can think of is why anyone would think they can see half the globe's sky at ground level on a clear night. Just how high up do we see? Would we also see half the globe if we ascend 100,000 feet and look down? Higher? How much higher? How much can we make out?
Did you finish watching?
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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2019, 09:26:20 pm »
Yes, I finished watching it. The only issue I had was all the occult stuff.
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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2019, 09:32:45 pm »
Yes, I finished watching it. The only issue I had was all the occult stuff.
I haven't watched it all yet. I post so much and read so much and listen to so much and watch so much that I only have time to eat and sleep. I'm exaggerating a little but that's what it feel like.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2019, 11:29:32 am »
NO EXPERIMENT CAN DETECT EARTH'S MOTION - Part 1


14 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpRUD8JcgBw





NO EXPERIMENT CAN DETECT EARTH'S MOTION - Part 2


23 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkx68Yc9qo





NO EXPERIMENT CAN DETECT EARTH'S MOTION - Part 3


6 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYVkdyDCR84&t=13s


No experiment has ever been performed with such excruciating persistence and meticulous precision, and in every conceivable manner, than that of trying to detect and measure the motion of the Earth. Yet they have all consistently and continually yielded a velocity for the Earth of exactly ZERO mph.

The toil of thousands of exasperated researchers, in the extremely varied experiments of Arago, De Coudre's induction, Fizeau, Fresnell drag, Hoek, Jaseja's lasers, Jenkins, Klinkerfuess, Michelson-Morley interferometry, Lord Rayleigh's polarimetry, Troughton-Noble torque, and the famous 'Airy's Failure' experiment, all conclusively failed to show any rotational or translational movement for the earth, whatsoever."

"They want you to believe that the Moon's rotation is perfectly synchronized with its orbit so that's why we only ever see one side of the Moon, rather than conclude the obvious - that the Moon is simply NOT rotating. Moreover, they had to slow down the Moon's speed by 58,870 mph AND reverse its direction to West-East to successfully sell their phony heliocentricity system to a gullible public. I don't think there is one person in many, many thousands - regardless of education - who knows that the Copernican Model had to turn the Moon's observable direction around and give it a new speed to accommodate the phases and eclipses." -Marshall Hall

--- THE EARTH IS AT REST - THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT :

James Bradley was the guy to whom my countryman Ruđer Bošković (forgotten croatian genius) - during his visitation to London - proposed to conduct a decisive experiment in order to determine if the earth orbits the sun!!! Almost 100 years later (In 1871) G. B. Airy (1802-1892) implemented the verification of Bradley's aberration hypothesis proposed by Boscovich. Bošković even designed a telescope filled with water in all its components, which was implemented at the Greenwich observatory in 1871, that is, 84 years after his death.

Of course, Airy's water-filled instrument did not deliver the desired proof of the Copernican paradigm. Agreeing with somewhat similar tests already performed by Hoek and Klinkerfusz, the experiment demonstrated exactly the opposite outcome of that which had to be confidently expected. Actually the most careful measurements gave the same angle of aberration for a telescope with water as for one filled with air.

Airy put water in the telescope to test Bradley's claim that the moving Earth
caused aberration; he saw no change in aberration angle with the water
added.  This was termed a ‘failure’, since Bradley’s theory of receiver motion
predicted a change with the index of refraction – n.

CONCLUSION: The deflection of starlight known as stellar aberration is NOT due
to the Earth’s motion, but is an external bending of light before reaching the
telescope.





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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 10:07:30 am »
Tycho Brahe's Arguments (see the comment section)


Comment :

What we have in the history of western science is a fully formed highly detailed geocentric cosmology and mathematical astronomy in the form of the Syntaxis Mathematiké from Ptolemaeus from the middle of the second century CE. This lays out in great detail all of the arguments for and against both the geocentric and heliocentric cosmologies known to the Greek astronomers and cosmologist over a period of about six hundred years. Not exactly fragments of ideas!

These arguments are logically argued scientific hypotheses based on solid empirical observation made by Babylonian and Greek astronomers over a period of approximately nine hundred years. Thanks to Ptolemaeus we know exactly why geocentrism was the standard. A standard that was accepted and defended in the works of Plato, Aristotle and many other Greek philosophers and mathematical commentators. This standard was also maintained and defended by many, many Islamic philosophers and astronomers from about 800 CE into the Early Modern Period.

The geocentric hypotheses of Greek and Islamic cosmology and astronomy were not based on religious beliefs but on solid empirical observations. The religious views of the astronomers and cosmologists who presented those hypotheses did not play a significant role in their work.

However the three main players in the introduction of heliocentric cosmology in the Early Modern Period Copernicus, Kepler and Newton (contrary to popular opinion Galileo only played a very minor role) were all deeply religious and the religious views of two of them did play a highly significant role in their scientific thought.

Copernicus was a cannon of a Catholic cathedral. Kepler trained for the priesthood in a Lutheran seminary and remained devotedly religious all of his life believing that he was serving his God through his astronomical work. Newton was by any standards a religious fanatic who believed that he had been special chosen by God to reveal the secrets of His creation.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKOyGNLL58&t=384s
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Re: Luminaries Video: Pondering
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 09:05:07 pm »
Tycho Brahe's Arguments (see the comment section)


Comment :

What we have in the history of western science is a fully formed highly detailed geocentric cosmology and mathematical astronomy in the form of the Syntaxis Mathematiké from Ptolemaeus from the middle of the second century CE. This lays out in great detail all of the arguments for and against both the geocentric and heliocentric cosmologies known to the Greek astronomers and cosmologist over a period of about six hundred years. Not exactly fragments of ideas!

These arguments are logically argued scientific hypotheses based on solid empirical observation made by Babylonian and Greek astronomers over a period of approximately nine hundred years. Thanks to Ptolemaeus we know exactly why geocentrism was the standard. A standard that was accepted and defended in the works of Plato, Aristotle and many other Greek philosophers and mathematical commentators. This standard was also maintained and defended by many, many Islamic philosophers and astronomers from about 800 CE into the Early Modern Period.

The geocentric hypotheses of Greek and Islamic cosmology and astronomy were not based on religious beliefs but on solid empirical observations. The religious views of the astronomers and cosmologists who presented those hypotheses did not play a significant role in their work.

However the three main players in the introduction of heliocentric cosmology in the Early Modern Period Copernicus, Kepler and Newton (contrary to popular opinion Galileo only played a very minor role) were all deeply religious and the religious views of two of them did play a highly significant role in their scientific thought.

Copernicus was a cannon of a Catholic cathedral. Kepler trained for the priesthood in a Lutheran seminary and remained devotedly religious all of his life believing that he was serving his God through his astronomical work. Newton was by any standards a religious fanatic who believed that he had been special chosen by God to reveal the secrets of His creation.



10 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKOyGNLL58&t=384s

Could it be that the lights in the sky are simply an electric light show? Most likely!

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