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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #91 on: July 17, 2021, 05:35:16 pm »
Space Virgins Get Lucky?


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Space fantasy fan-boys and fan-girls have just received their latest damage-control propaganda update from actor Richard Branson where he claims to have gone to space and filmed the spinning-ball Earth for us (but really he just did some parabolic maneuvers simulating free-fall while in a fancy plane)! 


Unfortunately for old Dick and his riders, rather than use a normal lens to film the Earth, like all honest amateurs do when sending up their high altitude balloons, these space virgins, just like NASA, Space X, the Red Bull dive and all other so-called "official" sources, always suspiciously choose to use a fish-eye lens causing the horizon to constantly and radically warp from convex, to flat, to concave. 


As the camera tilts relative to the horizon the ends warp up or down respectively, but when held still and level the horizon is flat.  As the normal back camera shows, the horizon actually remains perfectly flat and rises to the eye-level of the camera all the way up. 


If the Earth was actually a globe, no matter how large, the surface of the globe would curve downwards in all directions away from the observer causing them to necessarily tilt their heads down more and more the further they ascended to be able to see the horizon.  In reality, which is only consistent with rising over a flat plane, the horizon rises along with the observer and remains precisely at eye-level for the entire ascent! 


This trick is apparent both in Branson's trip this week as well as Baumgartner's Red Bull dive from several years ago.  The fish-eye lens cameras show a constantly warping horizon which was already curving the picture at ground level the very same amount of so-called "Earth curve" that it showed at 128,000 feet just before diving. 


The trick is given away however when they switch to the regular non-fish eye lens camera inside the craft which shows a perfectly flat horizon still perfectly at eye-level while hovering over 20 miles above a supposed globe.  Do you see something wrong with this picture?  If you do, then welcome to the truth of your hoaxed reality.  If you don't, then enjoy watching these terrible slack-jawed actors with their mouths gaping wide open at how ridiculously gullible you sheeple are.

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #92 on: September 21, 2021, 10:02:45 am »
Daylight Debunks the Globe


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One simple and definitive proof that you are not living on a spinning ball orbiting around the Sun is the fact that daytime and nighttime never switch places as they must for the heliocentric model to be true.  According to the globe doctrine, Earth makes one complete rotation on its axis every 24 hours, while simultaneously orbiting around the Sun and completing one full revolution every 365 days. 





If this was truly happening however, as you can see from the following image, the daytime and nighttime sides of the globe would have to flip every 6 months. For a more detailed illustration of this, imagine the Sun rising at 6am in New York on the Summer solstice.  After 3 months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 90 degrees from its previous position and a quarter turn away from the Sun, meaning that sunrise in New York during the Autumnal equinox should now be happening at midnight. 





After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be on the complete opposite side of the Sun, 180 degrees from its starting position, so that sunrise in New York during the Winter solstice should be happening at 6pm, or in other words, daytime and nighttime would have completely flipped from 6 months earlier.  After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 270 degrees from its original position, and sunrise in New York during the Spring equinox should be happening at noon. In reality, as you can test and observe for yourself, this simply does not happen and remains yet another nail in the globe's coffin. 





Globe apologist naysayers make either one of two ridiculous claims in an attempt to excuse away this clear problem in their model.  Their first defense is to claim that days are not actually 24 hours long, but instead only 23:56 long, and this 4 minute difference per day fixes the math allowing day and night to flip.  Now it is true that there are two kinds of days known as solar days and sidereal days, and sidereal days are in fact 23:56 minutes long, but solar days, which everyone on Earth sets their clocks by, are exactly 24 hours in duration. 





Sidereal days, which nobody sets their clocks by, are actually how long the fixed stars take to make one revolution over and around our Earth plane.  As you can observe and measure for yourself, the constellations rotate just slightly faster than the Sun, so that they take exactly 23:56 minutes to come back to their starting point, while the Sun takes exactly 24 hours to come back to its starting point.   





Firstly, the fact that sidereal and solar days both exist and are not exactly the same duration, is yet another proof that the stars and Sun are moving and not the Earth.  If the apparent movement of the stars and Sun was actually the result of us living on a spinning globe, as we're told, then there would and could only be one duration of day, namely, the amount of time it takes to complete one full rotation. 





The fact that there are two different durations of rotation time for the Sun and stars just further proves that they are moving at their own unique speeds over and around a motionless, fixed Earth.  Secondly, if globe apologists want to claim solar days are now suddenly only 23:56 minutes, then why hasn't anyone in history ever noticed that our 24 hour clocks, which billions of people have used for thousands of years, actually fall behind reality 4 minutes every single day!?  The reason is because it doesn't happen, and trying to claim solar days are the same duration as sidereal days just shows the disingenuous lengths these zealots will go to cling onto their false cosmology.   





Their next defense, even more ridiculous than the first, is to claim that the Earth actually must complete 361 degrees of rotation per day, and that that somehow makes up for it.  They completely redefine what a "day" means and claim, instead of a day being one full 24 hour rotation of the globe as we have always been taught, a "day" now suddenly means "the amount of rotation until the Sun reaches the same point in the sky," which they say is approximately 361 degrees. 





With this excuse, however, new problems arise because the globe's supposed orbit around the Sun is actually elliptical, so depending where/when during its revolution around the Sun, the Earth's rotation on its axis would have to be both speeding up and slowing down at different times of the year just to maintain their new definition of what a "day" means. 





But of course in their own model, the Earth's alleged rotation never speeds up or slows down and remains constant always.  They cannot have it both ways, but like the kid who wants to have his cake and eat it too, these leaps of logic pose no problem for the willfully ignorant.

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2021, 11:19:20 pm »
Why Flat Earth Matters


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When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 500 year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have all been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses.

The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve.

Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years!

Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally all of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2021, 09:45:12 am »
Every Flat Earth Question Answered - Flat Earth Model 2022




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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2021, 07:46:52 am »
Hello Family, I just received the saddest news that the one our Father used to bring me and countless others to His truth has passed away. Rob Skiba is without a doubt the most influential person in the truth movement and the best at making the Bible interesting and fun to study.

I can't put together any words that would do him justice due to the shock and sadness, but I wanted to share a link I found that will allow those of you who want to support his wife and family a chance to do so.

I found the link to his paypal on his fb page and hope that it is the best place to help his wife Sheila with anything she needs. If you feel led to support her, please do so. Thanks!


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This is by no means a full length tribute to Rob as it would take me months to create anything that does his ministry justice. However, I did want to share some of the things that have brought me comfort since learning of his passing.




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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2021, 07:53:49 am »
William Shatner's rocket launch: real or fake?



Dear Captain Kirk: if the earth appeared flat to you at 350,000 feet, then there is no globe. Just come out and tell everyone the earth is flat, it's the right thing to do.



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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #97 on: November 11, 2021, 12:49:41 pm »
Pseudo-Scientific Moon Mathe-Magic


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In the heliocentric model of the cosmos, the Moon revolves around the Earth 13 times per year traveling at 2,288 mph, while the Earth revolves around the Sun once per year traveling at 67,000mph.  The following model and animation illustrate how this is supposed to occur.  As you can see, since the Moon is revolving around the Earth, which itself is revolving around the Sun, in order to maintain its regular orbit, the Moon would have to be constantly and drastically changing its speed in ways completely unaccounted for by the model.

In the outer part of its orbit, the Moon would have to speed up 67,000mph in addition to its regular speed of 2,288mph just to keep up with the Earth.  So the Moon would then be traveling at 69,288mph when it reached the front of the Earth.  At this point, since the Moon is allegedly 240,000 miles away from Earth, the Earth would catch up in just 4 hours, so the Moon must continue traveling 67,000mph along Earth's trajectory while simultaneously continuing its now perpendicular 2,288mph second trajectory.  Then as it turns to reach the inner part of its orbit, the Moon must slow back down to its original speed allowing the Earth to pass by.  Lastly, as it passes behind the Earth, the Moon must once again quickly accelerate back up to nearly 70,000mph before getting left in the dust.

In addition to all of this, the Sun itself is allegedly orbiting the Milky Way galaxy at 448,000mph further compounding the problems and calculations of the heliocentric model.  If this were true, then the Earth, Moon, and other planets would all have yet another set of ridiculous and impossible corkscrewing accelerations and decelerations necessary just to keep up with the Sun.  And for the cherry on top, all of these calculations have been assuming perfectly circular orbits, but the actual heliocentric model claims that the Moon's orbit around the Earth, the Earth's orbit around the Sun, and the Sun's orbit around the Milky Way, are all elliptical, not circular, meaning there would be even more additional accelerations and decelerations to calculate depending where each one is along its elliptical path.

These constant and drastic accelerations and decelerations necessitated by the heliocentric model are rarely if ever mentioned by globe believers because they have always been taught that the reason we do not feel or experience any of this supposed motion is because we always travel at a constant velocity.  In their own model however, due to their elliptical orbits and revolving around other revolving bodies, the Moon, Sun, Earth and other planets, could not maintain constant velocities and would instead be regularly accelerating and decelerating.  Yet meanwhile you can stack a house of cards, make a rock cairn, or play a game of Jenga all without any of this motion, acceleration and deceleration ever being felt or experienced.

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #98 on: December 24, 2021, 11:06:31 am »
Eratosthenes Experiment Debunks Flat Earth?



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One of the most common alleged proofs quoted for the spherical Earth theory is the Eratosthenes sticks and shadows experiment.  Many people may remember NASA spokesman Carl Sagan presenting this experiment by using a map of Egypt with two obelisks attached and showing their resulting shadows. 

The story goes that around 250 B.C. a Greek mathematician and philosopher named Eratosthenes noted that at noon during the Summer Solstice in Syene, the Sun cast no shadow and the rays could reach straight to the bottom of his well, yet meanwhile in Alexandria a vertically standing metal rod cast a significant shadow. 

Eratosthenes, Carl Sagan, and other globe proponents reason that this result is impossible on a flat Earth.  To quote Carl Sagan, "If at a certain moment each stick casts no shadow at all, that is perfectly easy to understand provided the Earth is flat. 

If the shadow at Syene is a certain length, and the shadow at Alexandria is the same length, that also makes sense on a flat Earth.  But how could it be, Eratosthenes asked, that at the same instant there was no shadow at Syene and a very substantial shadow at Alexandria? 

The only answer (he claimed) was that the surface of the Earth is curved."  After reaching this conclusion, Eratosthenes then famously factored the length of the two shadows with his assumed distance to the Sun and recorded a measurement of the globe Earth's circumference close to what heliocentrist astronomers still use today. 

The fact of the matter is, however, that Eratosthenes, Sagan, and others are simply incorrect in their assumption that this would only be possible on a curved Earth. 

In reality, the exact same results occur on a flat Earth with a local Sun.  Eratosthenesí calculations were made assuming the Sun to be millions of miles away so that its rays would fall perfectly parallel even in points as divergent as Syene and Alexandria. 

Anyone familiar with the phenomenon known as crepuscular rays, however, knows full well that the Sun's rays simply do NOT fall perfectly parallel, especially at such distant points, rendering the entire argument moot.  Furthermore, using sextants and plane trigonometry, by measuring the Sunís angle at two points on

Earth simultaneously and factoring their distance from each other, the Pythagorean theorum reveals that the Sun is NOT millions of miles away, but instead less than a few thousand.  High altitude balloon footage has also filmed lighting hot-spots on clouds further proving the Sun to be local and acting as a spotlight. 

Therefore if globe believers wish to be honest, they must admit it is their faulty assumption that only a distant Sun with parallel rays could produce such results which has led to their faulty conclusion of a curved Earth, because Flat Earthers have always maintained that the Sun was local, and the very existence of crepuscular rays render the entire experiment invalid.

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2021, 09:47:05 pm »
20 Reasons Against Newtonianism (Videobook)




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In the interest of preserving for posterity the wealth of flat Earth knowledge and research done during the late 19th and early 20th century, I am continuing a series of audiobook and PDF downloads to make them more easily and widely available. Today's selection is Ebenezer Breach's 1898 booklet "20 Reasons Against Newtonianism."[/url]

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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #102 on: January 19, 2022, 11:37:19 am »
50 Scientific Facts for the Downfall of Modern Astronomy (Videobook)




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In the interest of preserving for posterity the wealth of flat Earth knowledge and research done during the late 19th and early 20th century, I am continuing a series of audiobook and PDF downloads to make them more easily and widely available. Today's selection is Ebenezer Breach's 1896 booklet "50 Scientific Facts for the Downfall of Modern Astronomy."


Please Note:  Ebenezer Breach was a literalist Christian and makes a few points in this booklet which are clearly not scientific, and potentially not even facts.  He also made his own astronomical measurements and had his own figures for the diameter and distance of the Sun, Moon and stars which differed from other 19th century flat Earthers, who themselves didn't have a consensus, other than to always be working with tens, hundreds and thousands, rather than the heliocentrist's millions, billions and trillions.

 

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