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Re: Can You Debunk Flat Earth?
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2020, 06:48:51 pm »

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« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2020, 10:11:26 pm »
Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.

3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.

4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.

6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.

9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.

16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.

19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:

21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:


30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.

36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2021, 05:32:01 pm »
The only thing I will ever say on any of these types of theories,  Flat Earth, no moon landing, alien visitation, etc is that you can no more prove they are right than you can prove them wrong.  That is what make them theories.   I love reading them and hearing both side of the arguments.  I just have found never taking a side is the best way to have friends around long term
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« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2021, 06:56:44 pm »
The only thing I will ever say on any of these types of theories,  Flat Earth, no moon landing, alien visitation, etc is that you can no more prove they are right than you can prove them wrong.  That is what make them theories.   I love reading them and hearing both side of the arguments.  I just have found never taking a side is the best way to have friends around long term

that is what they want......why else would they lie to us except...

Rem. when Darwin's theory came on scene, all changed and the Church/ Pastors like you said, could not keep friends, congregations if they did not change...But the facts remain, the Bible tells us the earth does not move, The moon has its own light, the sun, moon and stars were placed in the first heaven...(Moon 250,000 miles from earth and sun 93,000,000 mi. from earth). What about the firmament and the doors that open for both Job and John in Rev.. The Moon has its own light,,,,,,no a reflextion...

And I guess the most unusual of all....If you were on an airplane and it did not fly at a downward angle, you would fly off into space because of the curvature of the earth..... He sits on a circle....Yes He can sit on a circle...A geometric symbol but most decipher this as meaning a globe....

There are many things, that GOD states that gives me cause to believe His word.

guess I am a believer in every word He spoke.

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« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2021, 09:35:23 pm »
The only thing I will ever say on any of these types of theories,  Flat Earth, no moon landing, alien visitation, etc is that you can no more prove they are right than you can prove them wrong.  That is what make them theories.   I love reading them and hearing both side of the arguments.  I just have found never taking a side is the best way to have friends around long term

that is what they want......why else would they lie to us except...

Rem. when Darwin's theory came on scene, all changed and the Church/ Pastors like you said, could not keep friends, congregations if they did not change...But the facts remain, the Bible tells us the earth does not move, The moon has its own light, the sun, moon and stars were placed in the first heaven...(Moon 250,000 miles from earth and sun 93,000,000 mi. from earth). What about the firmament and the doors that open for both Job and John in Rev.. The Moon has its own light,,,,,,no a reflextion...

And I guess the most unusual of all....If you were on an airplane and it did not fly at a downward angle, you would fly off into space because of the curvature of the earth..... He sits on a circle....Yes He can sit on a circle...A geometric symbol but most decipher this as meaning a globe....

There are many things, that GOD states that gives me cause to believe His word.

guess I am a believer in every word He spoke.

Blade
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« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2021, 06:27:01 pm »
Gravity's "Big Proof" - EXPOSED (The Cavendish Effect)


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« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2021, 08:29:55 pm »
Uniform Circular Motion is Constant Acceleration



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Consult any mainstream science publication or ask any science teacher "why can't we feel the Earth spinning?" and they will unanimously reply that it is because the globe spins at a perfect constant speed, and we can only feel acceleration or deceleration.  As CoolCosmos writes: "Earth moves very fast. It spins at a speed of about 1,000 miles per hour and orbits around the Sun at a speed of about 67,000 miles per hour.


We do not feel any of this motion because these speeds are constant. You can only feel motion if your speed changes. For example, if you are in a car which is moving at a constant speed on a smooth surface, you will not feel much motion. However, when the car accelerates or when the brakes are applied, you do feel motion."  The glaring problem with this claim rarely ever addressed is that the globe and everything on it, if it existed, would be undergoing constant acceleration, because uniform circular motion IS constant acceleration.

As published on physicsclassroom.com, "Uniform circular motion can be described as the motion of an object in a circle at a constant speed. As an object moves in a circle, it is constantly changing its direction. At all instances, the object is moving tangent to the circle. Since the direction of the velocity vector is the same as the direction of the object's motion, the velocity vector is directed tangent to the circle as well. An object moving in a circle is accelerating. An object undergoing uniform circular motion is moving with a constant speed.


Nonetheless, it is accelerating due to its change in direction. The direction of the acceleration is inwards. With the inward net force directed perpendicular to the velocity vector, the object is always changing its direction and undergoing an inward acceleration."  Therefore the globe's theoretical astronomy is at odds with demonstrable physics.  Uniform (and even moreso with non-uniform) circular motion creates a centripetal force which entails constant acceleration in constantly changing directions. 


The heliocentric models claims the Earth rotates in uniform circular motion at a constant speed while revolving an elliptical orbit around the Sun at another constant speed, while the entire solar system makes a circular orbit around the Milky Way galaxy at another constant speed, and the Milky Way galaxy shoots off in a straight line from their Big Bang beginning at yet another constant speed.  In other words, we are actually supposedly undergoing 4 different circular, elliptical and straight line motions simultaneously, but being told that we quote "do not feel any of this motion because these speeds are constant." 


They always give the example of a car or train going straight at a constant velocity and claim we cannot feel that motion, but what if the car is speeding along an elevated uniform circular racetrack, while that entire elevated racetrack is making an elliptical circuit around the racing grounds, while simultaneously the entire racing grounds themselves are on a gigantic moving circular foundation, while that foundation itself shoots straight off into the universe?  These are the actual variables involved with the globe's supposed constant speed that no one in history has ever demonstrated, measured, felt or experienced whatsoever. 


So the next time someone claims you cannot feel the Earth's motion because it spins a constant speed, remind them that uniform circular motion IS acceleration and acceleration IS felt, and when they give you the example of a car driving down a straight road, remind them that the car is actually driving on a circular racetrack, while the racetrack is making an elliptical circuit around the racing grounds, while the entire racing grounds themselves are circling around a larger foundation, and that foundation itself is traveling in a straight line. 


These 4 simultaneous varying motions the globe is subjected to in the heliocentric model create multiple acceleration vectors and destroy any possibility that they wouldn't be felt or measurable due to traveling at a constant speed.

 

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