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Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
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Biblical Cosmology
We'll get into "science" after this first few posts.
The Ancient Conflict : According to scripture we are all born into a spiritual war. It's an invisible war and it's not broadcast on the evening news. The vast majority of people are oblivious to this.
When the serpent entered the garden and tempted Eve and hence, Adam, to disobey God and as a result, sin and death entered the flat earth and put a curse on humanity. Some time after when mankind continued to populate the earth, the first full assault on humanity was launched.
It could be likened to an alien invasion except these fallen entities didn't come from a distant galaxy or some far off star "system". They descended from above (hard to do on a globe), and together they conspired to abandon their assigned posts in the firmament. Where the ether carried their luminescence to the Four Corners of the earth.
These watcher angels had fallen from their first estate which God set for them (scriptural proof available for all of my Biblical references). They came down and began a sort of colonization or campaign. They sired the Nephilum, their hybrid abomination offspring, who ravaged the land and fed on men. They corrupted the genetics of humanity, animals and plants.
Using the knowledge they had been given by God to perform their original tasks in the heavens, they proceeded to teach mankind many forbidden things. In order to civilize man and equip them to build cities and kingdoms where these fallen angelic beings could rule as gods.
The knowledge bestowed to mankind was presented as being "keys" to enlightenment and the know-how to eventually take our seats beside them as gods, through "technology". These were all lies bringing nothing but destruction, perversion, wickedness and death. God finally became so grieved by man's evil and wickedness and the corruption of His creation He chose to destroy the earth with water and begin again.
Sparing one worthy family and the animals that they took. When the water receded the earth had been cleansed from the evil that was destroying it. God promised Noah that He would never again destroy with water and set a rainbow in the sky as a sign of this covenant. The great empires of the watchers had been erased.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R-a4DmXcAw
The angels that conspired against God were banished to the deepest bowels of the earth, held there in darkness until the time of the final judgement of all things. But no sooner than the earth started filling again with trees and plants and animals etc., and mankind was multiplying in the earth again did the enemy start working seeking to rebuild what God destroyed.
satan's beloved empire whose sole purpose was the destruction and enslavement of mankind. But no longer did the enemy have the power to send his minions to the earth to take wives and build cities. No longer could they walk among men and be revered. The satanic kingdom now had to be done though the worshiping of invisible deities forced to orchestrate their rule through interdimensional communication.
Since God had bound them behind a spiritual veil, once again forbidden knowledge was spread among these newly formed nations. So in the courts of all the human kingdoms worked a host of occult priesthoods, sorcerers, mediums, astrologers and practitioners of divination.
People started sacrificing to these false idols to show their loyalty to the false gods, building temples, having orgies and such. The rebellion against God resumed as Nimrod attempted and failed to build a tower into the heavens and throughout all of the kingdoms of the earth the languages were confused by God.
After centuries go by and the wickedness and occult and pagan practices were increasing, God chose to intervene again.
10 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t-8t6KAH1c&t=2s
The Conspiracy That Is Not I will create a spoiler to contain this post but for now, this is a basic and short explanation of why there is no huge conspiracy with flat earth. Number one is nobody believes flat earth.
Just an update. I have a lot to cover with this subject and hopefully the first dozen posts give a good overview of Biblical Flat Earth. I haven't gotten to the scriptures yest but I will. Please look at the post at the top of this page also.
The biggest question people have and the biggest reason they will not research flat earth is because they think millions or at least tens of thousands of people would have to be "in on it" - Not so. Only 24 people are alleged to have ever been high enough to see a globe from space. Most are deceased. 24 people and whoever might have seen REAL ACTUAL IMAGES.
Conspiracies work on levels, layers. Like an onion. Everybody already believes in a globe so it's not hard to keep something a secret. Pilots don't go high enough, satellite employees and contractors each do individual things with no knowledge of what they do in fake space.
The calculations and specifications are set to a globe because that's how they set them. They can easily use the same mathematics in flat earth. They don't know. GPS employees and Direct TV employees don't know. None of the above mentioned people CAN know.
So who is left? Lifetime appointed military and intelligence people and very few I would imagine. No temporary employee politicians will ever know. Trump has no clue. Perhaps certain world leaders and powerful men have know.
Even Einstein had no clue. No picture until 1972 and that's the ONLY one. Make sense? The point is that this is NOT a massive conspiracy involving millions of people that either lie or are just to stupid to know they are being duped.
Think about this. The globe only exists in your mind. No real images exist. Cartoons. CGI. Photo Shop. Artist drawings. Digital Creations. Outer Space is only in the movies and TV. You have NEVER seen it but by looking at the sky. Billions of people are in love with fake space pictures and propaganda. The globe in only in your imagination.
Imagine that the Holy Bible is true and that we are the center and focus of God's creation. We are in an enclosed flat earth and cosmos with a dome firmament above. Exactly like the Bible says. If you research the history of the occult and how it became science and the history of controlled cosmology and all of the numerous connections you'll see what I see. 8 months so far.
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A New Nation : God intervened again by setting apart a nation, a people, a kingdom to bear His name. From Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, down through Moses, Aaron and Joshua, Judges like Samson and Gideon, Kings like David and Solomon, Prophets like Elijah, Daniel and Samuel. Through the rise and fall of many demonic empires.
The God of all creation revealed Himself and His plan to redeem humanity from the curse of sin (and later as in now, the curse of the law), and death and demonic oppression. Finally, from the town of Nazareth the Promised Messiah emerged, the Son of God, the Word made flesh, whose sacrifice would free the world from the curse, who would save mankind and make it possible for us to be reborn in the Spirit.
Jesus Christ would now live IN us, and from that point until present the spiritual war took on a new twist. For decades and centuries after the resurrection the word of and truth of God began to spread through Christianity. Freeing mankind from the bondage of sin that had held them captive for generations. For the first time since the flood, people began to understand who and what they had been in servitude to the pagan kingdoms.
Throughout Asia, Europe and parts of Africa, the truth of God and Christ kept spreading, increasing, declining and increasing again over centuries. satan used his puppet emperors of the Roman empire to torture, imprison and persecute the first Christians. This only revealed more the power of the gospel of Christ and the hope of eternal life that He brought to bear.
Faith in Christ spread abroad. The Roman empire crumbled under it's own heathen weight. Now satan began to re-brand his agenda from trying to crush the spread of the truth of Christ to usurping it. Now satan began re-branding some of the old demonic kingdoms and demonic occult priesthoods and "Christianizing" them.
Seducing people with wealth, power and earthly pleasures and corrupt the Church of Christ from within. Pagan temples were "re-purposed" as Christian temples, pagan rites and rituals were re-purposed into Christian ceremonies etc. The Catholic church played a big role and still do. But nearer the beginnings and for centuries, scores of thousands of people were kept far from the Bible.
But by the grace of God the truth endured and the gospel spread. The age of Imperialism came and despite the evils of Imperialism, the gospel spread with it's spread though ships and colonization. The kingdom of satan was amplified but he was continually forced to work from the shadows. The occult knowledge and pagan rituals that went back to ancient Babylon were preserved through the centuries by various strains of secret societies, esoteric mystery schools and underground brotherhoods.
This is where it remained for the most part, in the shadows, but as much control over the earth that satan had through governments, military and financial means, the truth of God was so widespread that hardly anyone OPENLY worshiped Lucifer. Witchcraft and Luciferian beliefs were not something that populations as a whole would readily and openly accept.
This is something that satan would have to achieve if he were to rule the world and declare himself to be God. In order to get the world back to where satan wanted it he had to implement another strategy. Something so big that eve those who know that satan exists wouldn't thin he could pull off. In ancient times and even recently people were still aware of the realm that God created for us to live in.
When the truth of Jesus Christ was made known, the Biblical Cosmology had been given it's full context. The distinction between the creator and creation was made clear and the futility of the fallen angels' rebellion was made plain to see. In order for satan to claim he is the supreme being and worthy of our worship, he would have to rewrite the entire script.
He would have to repackage himself and his message he reset the setting and the stage itself like an old Shakespearean play to reintroduce the old characters. satan needed a whole new angle. Yet he did it with an old familiar tactic. Bestowing ancient wisdom and forbidden knowledge to humanity again, playing upon our pride and arrogance.
This occult knowledge and "gnosis" was now called SCIENCE.
Science and the Occult Much of the groundwork had already been laid in ancient Greece and the "Philosophers" who actually studied the occult practices and mystery schools before Jesus was born. They then proceeded to pontificate on these demonic occult practices and pagan rituals.This effectively sanitized these beliefs and practices because they were legitimized by these philosophers.
Later generations saw these men as wise and educated and simply the profound thoughts and musings of mere men. During the Renaissance in Europe, many of these ideas once again began to take hold as they were increasingly considered harmonious with the Bible, which we know is not true. Slowly these ideas became embedded within theology and theologians and academia, as well as things related to Hermes Trismegistus and the like.
All of this translated into Latin and disseminated among intellectuals with interest in such material. The Kabbala too began being studied anew by many monks and "thinkers" and together with writings on Alchemy which "allegedly" came from Muslim mystics, these three veins of occult knowledge began to spread.
How little do most students realize that the bulk of those individuals revered today as being the pioneers and visionaries of materialistic science were in fact greatly influenced by concepts, teachings of occult manuscripts with the core tenets of Mysticism. Da Vinci, Newton, Francis Bacon, Robert Flood, Copernicus, all names we learn about in "school".
We learn that these men simply derived their genius discoveries by way of pure observation and logical deduction. However, a further look at the methods and ways they arrived at their "discoveries" and conclusions while all coincidentally reading the same occult mystic materials reveals that no, these "discoveries" were also in ancient mystic teachings.
The Copernican cosmology of a vast universe and planetary systems and even a Big Bang to start it all off can be found in the Kabbalistic texts from long before Copernicus. The concepts of molecules, atoms and chemical reactions, elemental transmutations by way of atomic fusion and fission, were first presented in the more imprecise writings of Alchemy.
The idea that nature and the cosmos were governed by invisible forces and laws which could be discovered and calculated and reapplied through various technological means, are actually underlying precepts of hermeticism. With a lot of help from the well financed occult brotherhoods and secret societies, such as the Rosa Crucians and Freemasons, Jesuits and the Royal Academy, the first institution dedicated to the advancement of "scientific" understanding.
The "universe" suddenly got very very BIG and God became very very removed. To the point that it was believed that the universe could have formed without God. Models of the Copernican THEORY were expanded and refined. Darwin stepped in to explain how LIFE could have emerged from the primordial ooze long after the had formed after billions of years.
Universities and Lecture Halls largely built, staffed and maintained by the same wealthy "brotherhoods", secret societies and organizations, became hostile territory to anyone who opposed the n"newly discovered" science. The "universe was now presented as a vast almost infinite space with our tiny blue planet somewhere in the middle perhaps.
And now we might "control" this "planet" but we may not be alone. In fact, it's now fairly reasonable to believe alien life exists, even extremely intelligent and advanced life forms. So the stage was set and the same set of characters could emerge with new costumes, they exchanged the robes for white lab coats and space suits.
The 20th century So much happened in a 100 year span compared to all the centuries before, it would be difficult and daunting to try covering it all here. In a nutshell, satan has established a new but old way of doing business and facilitating and "managing" ways to bring the fallen entities back to earth.
In the halls of academia this science so called can now theoretically disperse the idea the "something" could could come down to earth as in "Aliens" for instance, and so the dimensional or spiritual veil must be considered again.
The barrier that God seems to have put in place to stop the watchers before the Flood. Could fallen angels once again reveal themselves to mankind as alien "saviors" and put in place to "govern" satan's earthly kingdom? Can demonic spirits even now, manifest themselves in the physical realm, inhabiting people, moving objects and attacking individuals? Yes, I believe and at least "perhaps".
Yet the ability for the demonic to manifest in the physical world is still very limited. The Bible seems to indicate that this veil will remain in place until shortly before the return of Jesus Christ. When it will be removed and the spirit of the antichrist will have a period of unprecedented access to earth and humanity one last time before satan meets his own end.
I have a lot of questions and certainly don't have all the answers. I'm not an expert on Biblical eschatology or end times prophecy, and the rise of Scientism and it's roots in occultism. But my recent studies tell me and others that quantum physics and quantum mechanics play a significant role in what the Bible refers to and could be the Great Deception.
Atomism and the progression into modern atomic theory, string theory, dark matter and Massive Hadron Colliders. The atom has long been split with fearsome destructive power or energy producing sources. Has this quantum realm been undeniably proven? Has it? Is it simply coincidence that all of these occult connections exist?
Today's researchers, physics researchers and scientists point to an uncanny multitude of similarities with new age quantum ideas and theories and ancient Kabbalistic and ancient forms of hermeticism, Hindu and Alchemist writings.
Through the history of Atomism we see the familiar trend of an original mystical philosophy crafted into what is now considered only a knowledge and materialistic science base.
Ironically, we have been lead back to these original forms of hermeticism. Has mankind been tricked in to building the very "machines" that will serve as the key to unleashing a large number of entities from a dimensional prison. Led to believe that we are reaching for immortality, when really we are "playing God".
None of us had any idea this modern (last 500 years) was all Kabbalism because we were all told it was science. Science tells us now that string theory can't be debunked yet and that every other rival theory fails in exactly the 10th and the 26th dimensions.
No kidding, really? Just believe. Scientists and especially CERN and related fields idolize these occult ancient teachings, they rave about them and think it's magical. Seduced. Strong Delusion.
They admit, "it's as if somebody is playing a trick on us" and "we don't have a good way of looking at it" - Some think CERN is attempting to reach other dimensions and demonic realms. If you understand what divination is and how the Bible forbids it, because it includes contacting the demonic realms and this is what ALL of occultism really is.
Quantum entanglement is now used as a proof that the ancient occult teachings were correct, as a vindication of science. Of course there are many many more real materialistic scientists who disagree with the "leadership" of the scientific "community" and the tension builds.More and more people are looking at quantum physics as a source and a connection to spirituality, instead of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
As we can see, the reasons for hiding the truth of the shape of the earth and the truth about the Enclosed Flat Earth and Cosmos are many. I have posted in this thread about how conspiracies work very smoothly and the "levels of knowledge" as well as the VERY FEW who could possibly have ever seen the earth from high enough in space or the REAL unaltered images which must exist.
Christians and non-Christians should be made aware and research these things and search the scriptures.
Youtube channel : - "the Truth is stranger than fiction" - Documentary Aethereal - The Battle For Heaven and Earth.
It's crazy to think that we've all been learning and teaching what is really Babylonian Mysticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6ytIWlIY4&t=972s
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patrick jane:
So this is the latest lie from NASA - (Never A Straight Answer) - I'm not buying it, are you? Did they just happen to catch the "bright" side of the moon since we can never see the dark side of the moon here on earth? It's totally CGI or photo shop guaranteed, they all are if you examine the images with the needed software.
Antonio Paris Planetary Scientist and Astronomy Professor at St. Petersburg College 19h Earth and Moon as seen from the Messenger spacecraft on its way to Mercury.
patrick jane:
From @Gleason92 :
"I would like to add a little more to this (from memory) before I carve out some time in the indeterminate future to fully support this claim. Here's the birds eye view of calculating the Moon distance deception.
After crunching the values you are left with one number, let's say for argument's sake that number is 27,000 (I made this up for argument's sake). Now the last step of the formula is to divide 27000 by a factor. We all know divide means to break the whole into smaller pieces. But there's a catch, if you divide any number into ANY value that's between 0-1 you actually have an answer that is GREATER than original.
For example:
8 pieces divided by 4=2 pieces.
But
8 pieces divided by 0.25=32 pieces.
This is one justification of just how sly and cunning this deception truly is. So if trig value for moon distance is 27000, you would divide by a number>1 and reach an answer<27000, in reality, like I alluded to, about 3000 miles. Ahhh but since we MUST account for curve we inject a variable that reduces our divisor to, surprise, a value in between 0-1 effectively increasing the total to>27000 or in this case the alleged 230 thousand miles or so of pure fantasy that is currently alleged as the distance today.
The videographed proof of this rests on YouTube and was presented by user Jeranism and friends. Here's the catch, I firmly believe Jeranism is cointelpro, BUT to remain credible, even the opposition must filter in truth from time to time. Not only is this a time but they placed video shots of the spreadsheet with the formulas on the screen and provided a detailed breakdown of every step of the calculation. So if you'd rather not wait for me to recreate, there's your source.
Masonic Globe Math
Here's the original globe and curvature math if I'm not mistaken :
8 inches per mile squared means as you add each mile to the formula, the curve gets steeper because it's allegedly a ball
So1 mile=8 inches*(1 mile^2)=8 inch "downward sloping curve" 1 mile out, or let's say we want to express that value in feet. 8 inches/12 inches (one foot)=0.666 feet 10 miles=8 inches*(10^2)=800 inches or 66.6 feet 100 miles=8 inches*(100^2)=80,000 inches or 6,666 feet
And this :
Fun math related fact readers. I learned that the distance to the Moon, currently alleged to be about 230,000 miles away requires a special "curvature variable" in the trig formula to conclude this ridiculous value. When you apply the directly observed values to the trigonometry formula, surprise the Moon is about 3,000 miles away. I can revisit my source and lay the formula out here if requested, but it could take some time.
Now to Eratosthenes. His stick experiment "works" because you must assume large and far away sun. If you assume local smaller (think 3,000 miles away, same as moon, as also depicted by the Masons) sun and flat Earth, his experiment yields the same results." My Eratosthenes video is coming soon !!!
patrick jane:
So basically, the Bible tells us that there is a dome above the earth, that the earth never moves and the sun and moon DO move and many other descriptions in the Bible can only be for an enclosed flat earth. The military nuked the dome and mapped it using nuclear weapons in the early 60s. elevision and radio waves are used in conjuction with the dome. Now, NASA (Never A Straight Answer) comes out with this garbage, as they always do for "damage control". This is a very interesting link that I found.
May 17, 2017 Space Science Reviews.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddar...-probes-spot-man-made-barrier-shrouding-earth
NASA's Van Allen Probes Spot Man-Made Barrier Shrouding Earth
Humans have long been shaping Earth’s landscape, but now scientists know we can shape our near-space environment as well. A certain type of communications — very low frequency, or VLF, radio communications — have been found to interact with particles in space, affecting how and where they move. At times, these interactions can create a barrier around Earth against natural high energy particle radiation in space. These results, part of a comprehensive paper on human-induced space weather, were recently published in Space Science Reviews.
What a joke - "they believe that . . . Maybe , , Uhh . . Maybe it . . Hah, they have no clue because everything has to be like it is . . . With no God !!!
1 minute
https://youtu.be/cFYoYUBGw4s
“A number of experiments and observations have figured out that, under the right conditions, radio communications signals in the VLF frequency range can in fact affect the properties of the high-energy radiation environment around the Earth,” said Phil Erickson, assistant director at the MIT Haystack Observatory, Westford, Massachusetts.
VLF signals are transmitted from ground stations at huge powers to communicate with submarines deep in the ocean. While these waves are intended for communications below the surface, they also extend out beyond our atmosphere, shrouding Earth in a VLF bubble. This bubble is even seen by spacecraft high above Earth’s surface, such as NASA’s Van Allen Probes, which study electrons and ions in the near-Earth environment.
The probes have noticed an interesting coincidence — the outward extent of the VLF bubble corresponds almost exactly to the inner edge of the Van Allen radiation belts, a layer of charged particles held in place by Earth’s magnetic fields. Dan Baker, director of the University of Colorado’s Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics in Boulder, coined this lower limit the “impenetrable barrier” and speculates that if there were no human VLF transmissions, the boundary would likely stretch closer to Earth. Indeed, comparisons of the modern extent of the radiation belts from Van Allen Probe data show the inner boundary to be much farther away than its recorded position in satellite data from the 1960s, when VLF transmissions were more limited.
With further study, VLF transmissions may serve as a way to remove excess radiation from the near-Earth environment. Plans are already underway to test VLF transmissions in the upper atmosphere to see if they could remove excess charged particles — which can appear during periods of intense space weather, such as when the sun erupts with giant clouds of particles and energy.
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More information about NASA’s Van Allen Probes By Mara Johnson-Groh NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
Media contact: Sarah Frazier, NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
Last Updated: Aug. 6, 2017 Editor: Rob Garner
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