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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #169 on: October 14, 2021, 09:44:46 am »
Every Flat Earth Question Answered - Flat Earth Model 2022




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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #170 on: October 15, 2021, 07:46:29 am »
Hello Family, I just received the saddest news that the one our Father used to bring me and countless others to His truth has passed away. Rob Skiba is without a doubt the most influential person in the truth movement and the best at making the Bible interesting and fun to study.

I can't put together any words that would do him justice due to the shock and sadness, but I wanted to share a link I found that will allow those of you who want to support his wife and family a chance to do so.

I found the link to his paypal on his fb page and hope that it is the best place to help his wife Sheila with anything she needs. If you feel led to support her, please do so. Thanks!


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ROB SKIBA'S WISDOM AND WARNING FROM 2013 ABOUT TODAY'S REALITY





This is by no means a full length tribute to Rob as it would take me months to create anything that does his ministry justice. However, I did want to share some of the things that have brought me comfort since learning of his passing.




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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #171 on: October 18, 2021, 07:52:39 am »
William Shatner's rocket launch: real or fake?



Dear Captain Kirk: if the earth appeared flat to you at 350,000 feet, then there is no globe. Just come out and tell everyone the earth is flat, it's the right thing to do.



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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #172 on: October 23, 2021, 10:59:53 pm »
Earth's Heartbeat: Seasons explained.



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The sun is a plasmoid caught in earth's magnetic field and its path is affected by the Schumann resonance. Lightning excites the Schumann resonance causing oscillations every year.

This model demonstrates seasons but does not include the moon or wandering stars. I believe the wandering stars aka planets would be in the outer radiation belt. This is not meant to be 100% accurate and merely illustrates my theory

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #173 on: October 25, 2021, 12:04:37 pm »
Flat Earth - Volcanoes and Earthquakes



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One question I am often asked is how earthquakes and volcanoes work on a flat Earth. The short answer is however earthquakes and volcanoes work on an Earth with curvature, they work exactly the same on an Earth without curvature. No special explanation for these phenomena are necessary because the theories that exist for their occurrences are irrelevant to the shape of the Earth.

Having said that, the prevailing theory for the cause of earthquakes actually makes more sense on a planar Earth than a spherical one. Plate Tectonics theory holds that large adjacent grinding plates of land build up friction until one fault plane slips under the other causing an Earthquake. This could theoretically happen regardless of the shape of the Earth, but even the mainstream images and terminology employed from "PLATE" tectonics to fault "PLANES," all suggest the geology of a level plane and not a spherical ball.

As for volcanoes, the globe model purports that the lava which erupts and is ejected from volcanoes comes from deep inside the magical magma tootsie-roll center of their tootsie-pop Earth. In reality however the longest and deepest drilling operation in history, the Russian Kola Superdeep, after over 20 years and busting several drills managed to bore only 8 miles down, so the entire ball-Earth model taught in schools showing a crust, outer-mantle, inner-mantle, outer-core and inner-core layers where this molten magma supposedly rests are all purely speculation as we have never actually even penetrated through beyond the crust.

What we do know is that Earth's matter gets denser and more pressurized, therefore more heated, the further down you go. At its greatest depth of just under 8 miles, the Kola Superdeep bore hole registered a blazing temperature of 356 degrees Fahrenheit. As you drill downwards, the temperature constantly increases approximately 1 degree Fahrenheit per 50 feet, so that after only 1.5 miles down it is already the temperature of boiling water, and by the time you reached 15 miles down all rocks would be melted down and molten.

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #174 on: November 11, 2021, 12:49:16 pm »
Pseudo-Scientific Moon Mathe-Magic


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In the heliocentric model of the cosmos, the Moon revolves around the Earth 13 times per year traveling at 2,288 mph, while the Earth revolves around the Sun once per year traveling at 67,000mph.  The following model and animation illustrate how this is supposed to occur.  As you can see, since the Moon is revolving around the Earth, which itself is revolving around the Sun, in order to maintain its regular orbit, the Moon would have to be constantly and drastically changing its speed in ways completely unaccounted for by the model.

In the outer part of its orbit, the Moon would have to speed up 67,000mph in addition to its regular speed of 2,288mph just to keep up with the Earth.  So the Moon would then be traveling at 69,288mph when it reached the front of the Earth.  At this point, since the Moon is allegedly 240,000 miles away from Earth, the Earth would catch up in just 4 hours, so the Moon must continue traveling 67,000mph along Earth's trajectory while simultaneously continuing its now perpendicular 2,288mph second trajectory.  Then as it turns to reach the inner part of its orbit, the Moon must slow back down to its original speed allowing the Earth to pass by.  Lastly, as it passes behind the Earth, the Moon must once again quickly accelerate back up to nearly 70,000mph before getting left in the dust.

In addition to all of this, the Sun itself is allegedly orbiting the Milky Way galaxy at 448,000mph further compounding the problems and calculations of the heliocentric model.  If this were true, then the Earth, Moon, and other planets would all have yet another set of ridiculous and impossible corkscrewing accelerations and decelerations necessary just to keep up with the Sun.  And for the cherry on top, all of these calculations have been assuming perfectly circular orbits, but the actual heliocentric model claims that the Moon's orbit around the Earth, the Earth's orbit around the Sun, and the Sun's orbit around the Milky Way, are all elliptical, not circular, meaning there would be even more additional accelerations and decelerations to calculate depending where each one is along its elliptical path.

These constant and drastic accelerations and decelerations necessitated by the heliocentric model are rarely if ever mentioned by globe believers because they have always been taught that the reason we do not feel or experience any of this supposed motion is because we always travel at a constant velocity.  In their own model however, due to their elliptical orbits and revolving around other revolving bodies, the Moon, Sun, Earth and other planets, could not maintain constant velocities and would instead be regularly accelerating and decelerating.  Yet meanwhile you can stack a house of cards, make a rock cairn, or play a game of Jenga all without any of this motion, acceleration and deceleration ever being felt or experienced.

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #176 on: November 28, 2021, 04:29:01 pm »
How I Learned About Flat Earth





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All children naturally assume and believe we live on a level stationary Earth with the Sun, Moon and stars revolving over and around us because that is what we actually experience every day of our lives. No children before heliocentric indoctrination would ever assume or believe they lived on a tilting, wobbling, spinning oblate spheroid hurdling incredible speeds through infinite vacuum space, because none of that is present in our lived experience. Only after thorough indoctrination through mainstream media and government education do children slowly begin to abandon their actual natural every day lived experience of the world, and adopt the new imaginative model espoused by their teachers and televisions.


I remember the moment we began studying the solar system in elementary school and were taught that Earth was a giant blue ball floating in space spinning circles around the Sun. The entire concept sounded ridiculous to me as I sat clearly still and motionless in my chair while being told the ground beneath me was actually tilting, wobbling, rotating and revolving many thousands of miles per hour in various directions.


I could see the flat horizon out the window, at the beach, and from mountain tops clearly never curving downwards in the slightest, yet I was being told the Earth was a ball and that if I dug a hole straight down far enough I would pop out in China and find more sky below me! 


When the teacher then insisted that everyone in Australia was actually living their lives upside-down relative to people on the Northern Hemisphere, I remember raising my hand confused and asking, "why don't people in the Southern Hemisphere fall off of the ball?" to which my teacher readily replied with the heliocentric model's one word magical answer for all critical questions: gravity - An invisible force strong enough to hold the world's oceans, buildings and people stuck to a rapidly spinning ball, while simultaneously weak enough to allow birds, bugs, smoke, steam, and helium balloons to completely evade its grasp...

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #177 on: December 02, 2021, 10:09:57 pm »
All these meta-human highways that can never lead you home...




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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #178 on: December 02, 2021, 10:41:37 pm »
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #180 on: December 24, 2021, 11:03:46 am »
Eratosthenes Experiment Debunks Flat Earth?



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One of the most common alleged proofs quoted for the spherical Earth theory is the Eratosthenes sticks and shadows experiment.  Many people may remember NASA spokesman Carl Sagan presenting this experiment by using a map of Egypt with two obelisks attached and showing their resulting shadows. 

The story goes that around 250 B.C. a Greek mathematician and philosopher named Eratosthenes noted that at noon during the Summer Solstice in Syene, the Sun cast no shadow and the rays could reach straight to the bottom of his well, yet meanwhile in Alexandria a vertically standing metal rod cast a significant shadow. 

Eratosthenes, Carl Sagan, and other globe proponents reason that this result is impossible on a flat Earth.  To quote Carl Sagan, "If at a certain moment each stick casts no shadow at all, that is perfectly easy to understand provided the Earth is flat. 

If the shadow at Syene is a certain length, and the shadow at Alexandria is the same length, that also makes sense on a flat Earth.  But how could it be, Eratosthenes asked, that at the same instant there was no shadow at Syene and a very substantial shadow at Alexandria? 

The only answer (he claimed) was that the surface of the Earth is curved."  After reaching this conclusion, Eratosthenes then famously factored the length of the two shadows with his assumed distance to the Sun and recorded a measurement of the globe Earth's circumference close to what heliocentrist astronomers still use today. 

The fact of the matter is, however, that Eratosthenes, Sagan, and others are simply incorrect in their assumption that this would only be possible on a curved Earth. 

In reality, the exact same results occur on a flat Earth with a local Sun.  Eratosthenesí calculations were made assuming the Sun to be millions of miles away so that its rays would fall perfectly parallel even in points as divergent as Syene and Alexandria. 

Anyone familiar with the phenomenon known as crepuscular rays, however, knows full well that the Sun's rays simply do NOT fall perfectly parallel, especially at such distant points, rendering the entire argument moot.  Furthermore, using sextants and plane trigonometry, by measuring the Sunís angle at two points on

Earth simultaneously and factoring their distance from each other, the Pythagorean theorum reveals that the Sun is NOT millions of miles away, but instead less than a few thousand.  High altitude balloon footage has also filmed lighting hot-spots on clouds further proving the Sun to be local and acting as a spotlight. 

Therefore if globe believers wish to be honest, they must admit it is their faulty assumption that only a distant Sun with parallel rays could produce such results which has led to their faulty conclusion of a curved Earth, because Flat Earthers have always maintained that the Sun was local, and the very existence of crepuscular rays render the entire experiment invalid.
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Re: Biblical Flat Earth and Cosmos
« Reply #181 on: December 25, 2021, 04:47:28 am »
WHY "THEY" LIE & WHO THEY ARE



The most common questions asked are "why would they lie" and "who are they" so I thought I'd piece together some of the many connections throughout history. This isn't going to answer the questions entirely due to time constraints, but I will be back with more answers to the "who" "why" and what else they're hiding.



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