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13 dead in California False Flag
« on: November 10, 2018, 11:34:18 am »
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:
Quote
My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.
https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:
Quote
I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2018, 01:38:00 pm »
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:
Quote
My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.
https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:
Quote
I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators, I mean the ones who are really in control

It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to tell anything, will he?
« Last Edit: November 10, 2018, 02:17:49 pm by truthjourney »
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2018, 07:42:00 pm »
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:
Quote
My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.
https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:
Quote
I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators, I mean the ones who are really in control

It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to tell anything, will he?

Just watching and waiting for all hell to break loose. It is just a matter of time as the US is not mentioned in the Bible (except in a passing statement) and that is odd since we are the only superpower on earth at this time. Something brings us down real quick....Any guesses? I got one but I want to here all the others.

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2018, 09:00:27 pm »
It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:
Quote
My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.
https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:
Quote
I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8
It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators, I mean the ones who are really in control

It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to tell anything, will he?

Just watching and waiting for all hell to break loose. It is just a matter of time as the US is not mentioned in the Bible (except in a passing statement) and that is odd since we are the only superpower on earth at this time. Something brings us down real quick....Any guesses? I got one but I want to here all the others.

Blade

Well, it's already happening and has been for a long time. There are some very evil people who want to decrease the population by whatever means is necessary. They have the technology and manpower to do that. They want total control over people. There are millions of people under attack who don't know what is attacking them. They want a lot of people to die. They really do and they don't care and have no mercy.

People are being so divided and turned against each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated and  even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.

All I can say is that we better pray hard against this evil and darkness or it will consume us. Only God can stop it and he will at the appointed time. We don't know when that time will be. Only God knows.
Isa. 29:15Woe to those who dig deep to hide their plans from the LORD.
In darkness they do their works and say,“Who sees us, and who will know?”
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Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2018, 12:15:27 pm »
All I can say is that we better pray hard against this evil and darkness or it will consume us. Only God can stop it and he will at the appointed time. We don't know when that time will be. Only God knows.
I DO hope (maybe against my better judgement) that "we" could do something against a system that protects the big criminals...


People are being so divided and turned against each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated and  even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
It is hard to miss that after every “mass shooting” there is the call for gun control and forced psychiatric treatment!
An American once tried to explain to me why they have the “right to bear arms” in their constitution. It’s so they could theoretically fight if their government gets out of line.
I’m not sure that I understand, I have never been a fan of guns, but I found his arguments too strong to contradict him.


The actor and gun owner Ashton Kutcher has spoken out about the need for stricter gun laws.
To make his argument appear stronger, Kutcher has told the world that his wife, Mila Kunis, threw him a birthday party earlier this year at the Borderline Bar. Where and when Kutcher was gifted a gun in the parking lot.

Maybe suspicious or at the very least strange?
Ashton Kutcher is really, really reliable as he is a good friend of Joshua Kushner, brother of Jared: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/11/09/ashton-kutcher-had-birthday-thousand-oaks-shooting-bar-borderline-mila-kunis/1942562002/


In addition to calling for forced psychiatric treatment and gun control in a series of tweets, Kutcher called on the sister-in-law of his friend Joshua Kushner, Ivanka (Donald’s daughter) to take action:
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@IvankaTrump your brother in law was at that birthday party. He could have just as easily been a victim. You go to synagogues you could be a victim! Talk to your dad! Plead with your dad! Let this be your legacy! Gun Reform now!
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2018, 01:14:32 pm »
People are being so divided and turned against each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated and  even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
Where we go one we go all is a mantra of universalism. The descendants of Jacob are set-apart from other people.

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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2018, 11:13:28 pm »
People are being so divided and turned against each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated and  even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.
Where we go one we go all is a mantra of universalism. The descendants of Jacob are set-apart from other people.

http://torah.clonehost.net/pages/paul.html#s9
Chaos, division, hate, racism, etc. that we see going on is a divide and conquer strategy. United we stand, divided we fall.
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 11:27:26 am »
I still haven’t found a single picture, video of the injuries.

I also searched in vain for videos of the brave people in the Borderline Bar smashing the windows and jumping from the second floor.
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We heard shots, I looked up and knew exactly what was happening. I tried to pull down as many people as I could," he said. "As soon as we heard a break in the shooting we knew he was reloading and we threw a couple of bar stools through the closest to us so we could get out.

The police, have "had several contacts with Mr. Long over the years for minor offenses".

In 2015, the supposed mass shooter Ian Long was the victim of assault and battery.
They “cleared” him after  mental health specialists evaluated him: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-08/12-killed-mass-shooting-california-country-bar
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 10:25:44 am »
Alaina Housley is one of the reported victims of this “mass shooting”.

In one of those strange coincidences, Alaina is the niece Adam Housley.
Since 1999, Adam Housley has been a star reporter for the Fox Channel of Jared Kushner’s friend Rupert Murdoch.

In another strange twist, Adam Housley was one of the first reporters for the December 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino. He and his crew obtained exclusive video of the shootout that ended with the gunmen shot and killed by the cops: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Housley


Since 2011, Adam Housley is married to actress Tamera Darvette Mowry-Housley.
Tamera first gained fame for her teen role in the ABC sitcom “Sister, Sister” (with her twin sister Tia Mowry). She also starred in the Disney Movies “Twitches” and “Twitches Too”.
Since July 2013, Tamara is one of the hosts of “The Real” talk show.

She was born in Germany; both of her American parents were stationed there for the US army: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera_Mowry
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Re: False flag Thousand Oaks, California – 13 dead
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2019, 12:40:32 pm »
Alaina Housley is one of the reported victims of this “mass shooting”.

In one of those strange coincidences, Alaina is the niece Adam Housley.
Since 1999, Adam Housley has been a star reporter for the Fox Channel of Jared Kushner’s friend Rupert Murdoch.

In another strange twist, Adam Housley was one of the first reporters for the December 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino. He and his crew obtained exclusive video of the shootout that ended with the gunmen shot and killed by the cops: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Housley


Since 2011, Adam Housley is married to actress Tamera Darvette Mowry-Housley.
Tamera first gained fame for her teen role in the ABC sitcom “Sister, Sister” (with her twin sister Tia Mowry). She also starred in the Disney Movies “Twitches” and “Twitches Too”.
Since July 2013, Tamara is one of the hosts of “The Real” talk show.

She was born in Germany; both of her American parents were stationed there for the US army: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera_Mowry
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