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It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:

Quote

My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.

https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:

Quote

I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8

Quote from: truthjourney on November 10, 2018, 01:38:00 pm

Quote from: Firestarter on November 10, 2018, 11:34:18 am

It has been reported that on 7 November at 11:20 PM, 28-year-old former marine Ian David Long with a hood and dressed in black; he used a smoke bomb and a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol to open fire at the Borderline Bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.

Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.

Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6367867/Father-fears-son-12-dead-California-bar-mass-shooting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)


I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2015/12/calculating-my-odds/


Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.

You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...

Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:

Quote

My son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.

https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4M


The following contains the only clip I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that act really, really emotional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYc1J9uDA4


According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:

Quote

I hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousand-oaks-gunman/index.html


Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim. Where’s the panic and shock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-Taq7HtZY


This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
https://youtu.be/xTuDCAzLi-k


I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?
https://youtu.be/mv1s5ZM3bX8

It's' always the same scenario. Gun control, gun control, gun control, gun control. What is the first thing that a dictator does usually? Takes all the guns from the people of course. I mean look at the history of dictators. And when I say dictators, I mean the ones who are really in control

It sounds like this guy was a targeted individual maybe and/or under mind control. A suicide. Well, I guess he won't live to tell anything, will he?

Just watching and waiting for all hell to break loose. It is just a matter of time as the US is not mentioned in the Bible (except in a passing statement) and that is odd since we are the only superpower on earth at this time. Something brings us down real quick....Any guesses? I got one but I want to here all the others.

Blade

People are being so divided and turned against each other that they don't even see it coming. And that's the way it has been planned to be. People need to stand together as one but I don't think that's going to happen. People are being so manipulated and  even mind controlled and tortured and they don't even have a clue what's really going on. Because this is all mostly covert. But it is clear to me that it is being driven by evil forces. It is really spiritual warfare.

We heard shots, I looked up and knew exactly what was happening. I tried to pull down as many people as I could," he said. "As soon as we heard a break in the shooting we knew he was reloading and we threw a couple of bar stools through the closest to us so we could get out.

Alaina Housley is one of the reported victims of this “mass shooting”.

In one of those strange coincidences, Alaina is the niece Adam Housley.
Since 1999, Adam Housley has been a star reporter for the Fox Channel of Jared Kushner’s friend Rupert Murdoch.

In another strange twist, Adam Housley was one of the first reporters for the December 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino. He and his crew obtained exclusive video of the shootout that ended with the gunmen shot and killed by the cops: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Housley


Since 2011, Adam Housley is married to actress Tamera Darvette Mowry-Housley.
Tamera first gained fame for her teen role in the ABC sitcom “Sister, Sister” (with her twin sister Tia Mowry). She also starred in the Disney Movies “Twitches” and “Twitches Too”.
Since July 2013, Tamara is one of the hosts of “The Real” talk show.

She was born in Germany; both of her American parents were stationed there for the US army: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera_Mowry