patrick jane forums

I thought when I first read MAD that it was a cult and I used to fight it vigourously. With much discourse I came to see that they were saved and actually held many precious truths that I have always held so I lightened up.

It's good to admit you have been wrong, I hope if I am shown in scripture something I will always be ready to accept scripture.

Never-the-less [you knew there would be a never-the-less]

I have a disagreement which on the face of it seems like a mere hairline difference but actually is a chasm.

It is in the matter of where they divide the scripture concerning the Jews

I am so glad that they DO believe in the future rise of the Jews, it is dear to my heart. But they draw the line at the Church Jews, Pete, Jimmy and Johnners. They's church you see, the Body of Christ.

The promises of the OT prophecies are not made to them but to Israel, that is ethnic Israel, the nation of Jews who are the seed of Abe.

I do not accept that the gospel to the Jews is or has ever been different than the gospel to us Gentiles. Jesus did not preach Moses, He preached grace. It took an awful long time for it to sink in but following the ruckus at Antioch they were made to acknowledge that the Gentiles were saved as good as the Jews through faith and not as a reward for obedience.

There are not two gospels but there are two peoples NOT the Jews and the Gentiles but the church Jew/Gentiles and the nation of Israel. It is to Israel that the land promises are made not to the Jewish church.