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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2018, 05:16:31 pm »
There is so little support for these kinds of things, it needs to stop. 

the only reason for answering what happens to people who die before Christ's return was to show that God has a different way of putting us all back together than for the ones who are still living.  It is not an intersection about 2 programs because there are not 2 programs.  It is not 'one stops here to make way for the other for a while' because there is no such thing.

There is too little support for a kingdom on this earth, from geographic Jerusalem, etc.  The NT does not go this direction.  'In the Seed all nations of the earth will be blessed' which is explained in Gal 3 as Christ's gospel for them.

The longest treatment of these things is 2 Peter 3 and it does not have anything millenial or Judaic in it.  Nor do any of the shorter NT passages on it. 

Don't base anything on the Revelation that is not crystal clear from the letters--says the Reformation.  It was the Catholic Counter-Reformation that piped up the first futurist sequential scheme, the Jesuit apologist Ribera.  Enjoy your pals. 
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2018, 10:40:20 pm »
There is so little support for these kinds of things, it needs to stop. 

the only reason for answering what happens to people who die before Christ's return was to show that God has a different way of putting us all back together than for the ones who are still living.  It is not an intersection about 2 programs because there are not 2 programs.  It is not 'one stops here to make way for the other for a while' because there is no such thing.

There is too little support for a kingdom on this earth, from geographic Jerusalem, etc.  The NT does not go this direction.  'In the Seed all nations of the earth will be blessed' which is explained in Gal 3 as Christ's gospel for them.

The longest treatment of these things is 2 Peter 3 and it does not have anything millenial or Judaic in it.  Nor do any of the shorter NT passages on it. 

Don't base anything on the Revelation that is not crystal clear from the letters--says the Reformation.  It was the Catholic Counter-Reformation that piped up the first futurist sequential scheme, the Jesuit apologist Ribera.  Enjoy your pals.

Scripter. I was just giving you the Literal, Historical and grammatical reading of the Bible. Yes, the NT does go where I was stating.

IF you do not believe what God states in the Bible that is fine, as it is your choice.. If you cannot see that GOD will return for His people in Roman 9,10 and 11.

Have a good day. Scripter

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2018, 08:03:56 pm »
The idea that you automatically go the Rev because of Dan 9 is not sound.  There is only one interp of Dan 9 and it is locked into the 1st century Judean text, as it should be because it is about Messiah's accomplishments, and being cut off, and about the destruction of Israel at the same time, roughly. 
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2018, 08:49:28 pm »
The idea that you automatically go the Rev because of Dan 9 is not sound.  There is only one interp of Dan 9 and it is locked into the 1st century Judean text, as it should be because it is about Messiah's accomplishments, and being cut off, and about the destruction of Israel at the same time, roughly.

Hi Scripter/Interplanner...did anyone tell you that in Judaism it is forbidden to read Daniel 9. They are Still Blinded remember. Evidently so are you>?

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2018, 08:06:42 am »
Yes, Daniel's vision did show the kingdom coming.  It was not made with human hands.  It would not be 'on earth' in the same sense as Rome or Babylon.  Christ:  'my kingdom is not of this world (not the same kind).'  He was enthroned in the resurrection (Acts 2:30+) as foreseen by David.  He is to be preached as above all authority, so that all people--senators and pickpockets--know that they are here by his allowance and they are accountable to him, and will bow to him.  If you do not preach that, or do not attend where your pastor dares to be subversive enough to preach that, move on. 
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 06:07:34 pm »
Yes, Daniel's vision did show the kingdom coming.  It was not made with human hands.  It would not be 'on earth' in the same sense as Rome or Babylon.  Christ:  'my kingdom is not of this world (not the same kind).'  He was enthroned in the resurrection (Acts 2:30+) as foreseen by David.  He is to be preached as above all authority, so that all people--senators and pickpockets--know that they are here by his allowance and they are accountable to him, and will bow to him.  If you do not preach that, or do not attend where your pastor dares to be subversive enough to preach that, move on.

Wrong Kingdom? The Kingdom of GOD is the spiritual Kingdom of the Church (Body of Christ) We true Christians are part of it. Unfortunately, not everyone is part of it.

The Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus preached while on earth would have been the Millennium had the Jewish leadership not rejected God(the father), Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. It was postponed and most-all Jewish people have been blinded until the Church (restrainer) is removed.

I don't teach that and would not pay any attention to those who do. It is another Gospel.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2018, 11:37:45 am »
I don't see anything in disagreement with your last post.  Although the opening question is dangling because I don't know who you are saying it to. 
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2018, 07:42:08 pm »
I don't see anything in disagreement with your last post.  Although the opening question is dangling because I don't know who you are saying it to.
A previous quote from Scripter....
"Yes, Daniel's vision did show the kingdom coming.  It was not made with human hands.  It would not be 'on earth' in the same sense as Rome or Babylon.  Christ:  'my kingdom is not of this world (not the same kind).'  He was enthroned in the resurrection (Acts 2:30+) as foreseen by David.  He is to be preached as above all authority, so that all people--senators and pickpockets--know that they are here by his allowance and they are accountable to him, and will bow to him. 

[If you do not preach that, or do not attend where your pastor dares to be subversive enough to preach that, move on.] "


[Then I, Bladerunner posted "I don't teach that and would not pay any attention to those who do. It is another Gospel."]

It seems I was thinking of another post when I wrote this in response to the post above. I Do teach that The Church is the spiritual kingdom of GOD, Jesus Spoke of when He was on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven was rejected by the Jewish leadership and was subsequently postpone for a future time. This will be known as the Millennium yet to come.

Blade

1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2019, 04:16:00 am »
I don't see anything in disagreement with your last post.  Although the opening question is dangling because I don't know who you are saying it to.
A previous quote from Scripter....
"Yes, Daniel's vision did show the kingdom coming.  It was not made with human hands.  It would not be 'on earth' in the same sense as Rome or Babylon.  Christ:  'my kingdom is not of this world (not the same kind).'  He was enthroned in the resurrection (Acts 2:30+) as foreseen by David.  He is to be preached as above all authority, so that all people--senators and pickpockets--know that they are here by his allowance and they are accountable to him, and will bow to him. 

[If you do not preach that, or do not attend where your pastor dares to be subversive enough to preach that, move on.] "


[Then I, Bladerunner posted "I don't teach that and would not pay any attention to those who do. It is another Gospel."]

It seems I was thinking of another post when I wrote this in response to the post above. I Do teach that The Church is the spiritual kingdom of GOD, Jesus Spoke of when He was on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven was rejected by the Jewish leadership and was subsequently postpone for a future time. This will be known as the Millennium yet to come.

Blade

I agree. I concur.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2019, 11:05:10 am »
I don't see anything in disagreement with your last post.  Although the opening question is dangling because I don't know who you are saying it to.
A previous quote from Scripter....
"Yes, Daniel's vision did show the kingdom coming.  It was not made with human hands.  It would not be 'on earth' in the same sense as Rome or Babylon.  Christ:  'my kingdom is not of this world (not the same kind).'  He was enthroned in the resurrection (Acts 2:30+) as foreseen by David.  He is to be preached as above all authority, so that all people--senators and pickpockets--know that they are here by his allowance and they are accountable to him, and will bow to him. 

[If you do not preach that, or do not attend where your pastor dares to be subversive enough to preach that, move on.] "

[Then I, Bladerunner posted "I don't teach that and would not pay any attention to those who do. It is another Gospel."]

It seems I was thinking of another post when I wrote this in response to the post above. I Do teach that The Church is the spiritual kingdom of GOD, Jesus Spoke of when He was on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven was rejected by the Jewish leadership and was subsequently postpone for a future time. This will be known as the Millennium yet to come.

Blade
I agree. I concur.
I still do.
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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2019, 05:47:02 am »
Me too.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2020, 10:14:09 am »
The idea that you automatically go the Rev because of Dan 9 is not sound.  There is only one interp of Dan 9 and it is locked into the 1st century Judean text, as it should be because it is about Messiah's accomplishments, and being cut off, and about the destruction of Israel at the same time, roughly.


Israel was not destroyed, the Jews were driven out among the nations as God had foretold them ... they will return and build the temple as told by the mouth of all the prophets
Have faith in God

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Re: The Millennial Jews
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2020, 03:09:49 pm »
The idea that you automatically go the Rev because of Dan 9 is not sound.  There is only one interp of Dan 9 and it is locked into the 1st century Judean text, as it should be because it is about Messiah's accomplishments, and being cut off, and about the destruction of Israel at the same time, roughly.


Israel was not destroyed, the Jews were driven out among the nations as God had foretold them ... they will return and build the temple as told by the mouth of all the prophets

Correct Billy..They were drove out around 135AD.  They are already ready to rebuild the temple today. They just need permission and where to build it..As we both know, the Antichrist will enforce the rebuilding of the this temple...time is close.


Blade

We are very close to agreement here Blady boy. I don't think Ac will be in Jerusalem at the time but he will be in a pact with Israel

Israel is about to become a super power.

While Ac is busy stamping out all religion [especially the church] the Jews will be building their temple ... I don't believe Ac will appear until the prospect of the temple hoves into view.

As soon as the temple is complete he will reneg his pact and invade.

That is my understanding. Israel is saved from the great trib by that pact.
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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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