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Author Topic: The Jews to be kept SAFE during the Great Tribulation  (Read 14464 times)

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Tell us more you two old farts.  ;D💋

The disagreement between Billy and I is simple. Billy literally and correctly reads that "all of Israel" will be saved. I believe the same yet, there are those verses that dictate just who is "all of Israel" during this time period.

The very definition of "remnant" to me is "what is left" from a previous whole. If I take out ten apples from a bushel, I no longer have a bushel but the remnant of a bushel. "What is left of a bushel"  (Google def:"a small remaining quantity of something/ remaining.")

In Zechariah 13:8-9.(KJV).."And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.". In this chapter, the Lord is speaking of His people, Israel  before and during the millennium. Here two thirds of them will die...(Keep in mind that 6 million died in WWII, a scant one third of the population worldwide.)

v 9. "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

Here we are told that He will bring the surviving 1/3 of Israel through a cleansing fire (Great Tribulation , Rev 12). 

These are and will be the remnant of Israel.... "All of Israel"

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Tell us more you two old farts.  ;D 💋

The disagreement between Billy and I is simple. Billy literally and correctly reads that "all of Israel" will be saved. I believe the same yet, there are those verses that dictate just who is "all of Israel" during this time period.

The very definition of "remnant" to me is "what is left" from a previous whole. If I take out ten apples from a bushel, I no longer have a bushel but the remnant of a bushel. "What is left of a bushel"  (Google def:"a small remaining quantity of something/ remaining.")

In Zechariah 13:8-9.(KJV).."And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.". In this chapter, the Lord is speaking of His people, Israel  before and during the millennium. Here two thirds of them will die...(Keep in mind that 6 million died in WWII, a scant one third of the population worldwide.)

v 9. "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

Here we are told that He will bring the surviving 1/3 of Israel through a cleansing fire (Great Tribulation , Rev 12). 

These are and will be the remnant of Israel.... "All of Israel"

Blade


You begin in Zechariah 13 v 8


Verse 7 says
Awake O sword against My Shepherd and against the man who is My fellow saith the Lord of hosts, smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered and I will turn My hand against the little ones


verse and it shall come to pass that in all the land saith the Lord 2 parts shall be cut off and die but the 1/3 shall be left therein.


So when was the Shepherd smitten and the sheep scattered?


John says the prophecy was fulfilled at the cross.
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Tell us more you two old farts.  ;D 💋

The disagreement between Billy and I is simple. Billy literally and correctly reads that "all of Israel" will be saved. I believe the same yet, there are those verses that dictate just who is "all of Israel" during this time period.

The very definition of "remnant" to me is "what is left" from a previous whole. If I take out ten apples from a bushel, I no longer have a bushel but the remnant of a bushel. "What is left of a bushel"  (Google def:"a small remaining quantity of something/ remaining.")

In Zechariah 13:8-9.(KJV).."And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.". In this chapter, the Lord is speaking of His people, Israel  before and during the millennium. Here two thirds of them will die...(Keep in mind that 6 million died in WWII, a scant one third of the population worldwide.)

v 9. "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

Here we are told that He will bring the surviving 1/3 of Israel through a cleansing fire (Great Tribulation , Rev 12). 

These are and will be the remnant of Israel.... "All of Israel"

Blade


You begin in Zechariah 13 v 8


Verse 7 says
Awake O sword against My Shepherd and against the man who is My fellow saith the Lord of hosts, smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered and I will turn My hand against the little ones


verse and it shall come to pass that in all the land saith the Lord 2 parts shall be cut off and die but the 1/3 shall be left therein.


So when was the Shepherd smitten and the sheep scattered?


John says the prophecy was fulfilled at the cross.

No, John did not say that about the Cross.

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Tell us more you two old farts.  ;D 💋

The disagreement between Billy and I is simple. Billy literally and correctly reads that "all of Israel" will be saved. I believe the same yet, there are those verses that dictate just who is "all of Israel" during this time period.

The very definition of "remnant" to me is "what is left" from a previous whole. If I take out ten apples from a bushel, I no longer have a bushel but the remnant of a bushel. "What is left of a bushel"  (Google def:"a small remaining quantity of something/ remaining.")

In Zechariah 13:8-9.(KJV).."And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.". In this chapter, the Lord is speaking of His people, Israel  before and during the millennium. Here two thirds of them will die...(Keep in mind that 6 million died in WWII, a scant one third of the population worldwide.)

v 9. "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

Here we are told that He will bring the surviving 1/3 of Israel through a cleansing fire (Great Tribulation , Rev 12). 

These are and will be the remnant of Israel.... "All of Israel"

Blade


You begin in Zechariah 13 v 8


Verse 7 says
Awake O sword against My Shepherd and against the man who is My fellow saith the Lord of hosts, smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered and I will turn My hand against the little ones


verse and it shall come to pass that in all the land saith the Lord 2 parts shall be cut off and die but the 1/3 shall be left therein.


So when was the Shepherd smitten and the sheep scattered?


John says the prophecy was fulfilled at the cross.

No, John did not say that about the Cross.

Blade,


Then saith Jesus unto them "all ye will be offended because of Me this night for it is written I will smite the Shepherd and the sheep of His flock shall be scattered abroad"


I beg your pardon it was Matthew who said it, nay the Lord Himself. Matthew.26.31.


Other evangelist say when the disciples fled from the cross "this was to fulfil the scripture."

Have faith in God

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Tell us more you two old farts.  ;D 💋

The disagreement between Billy and I is simple. Billy literally and correctly reads that "all of Israel" will be saved. I believe the same yet, there are those verses that dictate just who is "all of Israel" during this time period.

The very definition of "remnant" to me is "what is left" from a previous whole. If I take out ten apples from a bushel, I no longer have a bushel but the remnant of a bushel. "What is left of a bushel"  (Google def:"a small remaining quantity of something/ remaining.")

In Zechariah 13:8-9.(KJV).."And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.". In this chapter, the Lord is speaking of His people, Israel  before and during the millennium. Here two thirds of them will die...(Keep in mind that 6 million died in WWII, a scant one third of the population worldwide.)

v 9. "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

Here we are told that He will bring the surviving 1/3 of Israel through a cleansing fire (Great Tribulation , Rev 12). 

These are and will be the remnant of Israel.... "All of Israel"

Blade


You begin in Zechariah 13 v 8


Verse 7 says
Awake O sword against My Shepherd and against the man who is My fellow saith the Lord of hosts, smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered and I will turn My hand against the little ones


verse and it shall come to pass that in all the land saith the Lord 2 parts shall be cut off and die but the 1/3 shall be left therein.


So when was the Shepherd smitten and the sheep scattered?


John says the prophecy was fulfilled at the cross.

No, John did not say that about the Cross.

Blade,


Then saith Jesus unto them "all ye will be offended because of Me this night for it is written I will smite the Shepherd and the sheep of His flock shall be scattered abroad"


I beg your pardon it was Matthew who said it, nay the Lord Himself. Matthew.26.31.


Other evangelist say when the disciples fled from the cross "this was to fulfil the scripture."

Billy, Jesus was speaking to his apostles right after the last supper... The Shepard is himself and the apostles are the sheep....OH MY.....read the context. PLEASE....you are way off

Blade


That's what I keep telling YOU. you keep saying the prophecy relates to the Jews in the last times but Jesus said it relates to Him and the infant church.


God is NOT scattering the Jews He is GATHERING them and He will gather them ALL from the four corners, the time of scattering is past. He can't be doing both can He? He can't be scattering them and gathering them at the same time.
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Read what scripture says "this was to fulfil scripture"
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Read what scripture says "this was to fulfil scripture"

I tried???

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God is not scattering Israel He is gathering Israel, He is not punishing them He is defending them.


He can't both be scattering them and gathering at the same time.


"He shall smite the Shepherd of the flock and the sheep will be scattered" was fulfilled in Jesus who IS the Shepherd of Israel, He was smitten and Israel was scattered. For 2,000 years they were wanderers in the earth. Now they have their homeland back.
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