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Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I over slept.   

By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.


But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.


I was ALWAYS late late late.


My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"

very cute Billy....lol

Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is your Plan B?

For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)

For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.

I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those days also..

The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a narrow road where only a few will make it..

Blade

So mixed up.


You can't distinguish between tribulation which we are told we must go through and God's wrath from which we are taken away.


Many times I have shown you that Jesus said "AFTER the tribulation of those days ... they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory and He will send forth His angels to gather the elect from the four corners of heaven"


Tribulation is the persecution Jesus warned us to expect. And I believe the church itself is the narrow way, the only distinction to be made is the new birth. There will be Catholics there in heaven if they have been born again.


Jesus said MANY shall come. He said His Father's house will be packed.


John SAW the church [which incidentally had come out of the great tribulation] and it was a multitude which no man could number.


The idea that just a few shrivelled souls will ever make it is nonsense ... and besides all this there are those who will inherit the earth.


The devil will not have billions and billions of human souls. He took a third of the angels and my guess is he will take a third of mankind.

what about the 1/4 of mankind in the seals
then 1/3 of mankind in the trumpets
and
everything in the seas, and an undisclosed number of humans in the bowl judgements

How do you understand this...Dismiss it.....After al it is GOD's WORDs

Blade

It's not for the church is it. It's not tribulation, it is AFTER the church is gone, it is God's wrath being poured out.


God's wrath begins with Antichrist and those who come up against Israel.


Then the kingdom is established and set up in Jerusalem and rolled out from Israel


YOU said it, you said it yourself. Always you see God's wrath is poured out upon a third. A third of mankind who refuse to repent, who will not submit. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO THIRDS?


Christians are so-oo gloomy, their noses are rubbed into the dark threatenings and damnation aspect of what God does.


But the purpose of the 1,000 years is that the rest of mankind can come in through the Jews. God is SAVIOUR. His will is to SAVE people.


The 1, 000 years is when Nations will beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks and nations will study war no more. PEACE and PROSPERITY will attend Jesu's righteous reign.


And nations will flock to Jerusalem to the house of the God of Jacob to learn His ways. Glory to God.

Don't know where your getting your figures Billy but they are not Biblical..

Here are a few...

Mankind during Daniel's 70th week: Mankind = Jew and Gentile

Because of the Seal Judgments, 1/4 of mankind will die.

Because of the Trumpet Judgment , another 1/3 of the remaining population of Mankind will die.

This represents over Half of the earth's population will die during the first two judgments.

Because of the Bowl (vial) judgments, all of the sea creatures will die and an unspecified number of remaining humans will die.

Sheep and Goat Judgment will pruge all the surviving nations of those people who were/are anti-Sematic. The Goats will be cast into the Lake of Fire, being their final Judgment.  Only those judged as Sheep will be permitted into the Millennium. A remnant of Mankind.


During Daniel's 70th week, 2/3 (66%) of the Jews on earth will die. Only the remaining 1/3 (remnant of Israel) will live through the Millennium.

I am teaching darkness as that is what is coming..much of its beginning is here now. Those who do not see the darkness coming will most likely have to live through it after the restrainer (His Church) has gone.

Blade

There are NO seals, NO trumpets, NO bowls of wrath in Daniel's 70th week YOU have transposed them there from Revelations.


We take the week to be 7 years, during that 7 years there will be a pact between Antichrist and the Jews which pact he will break after 3 .1/2 years.


All these events happen before the rapture so the church is still here up until the time when Antichrist breaks his pact and invades Jerusalem and the temple.


The seals and the trumpets and the bowls represents God's wrath being poured out AFTER the church is gone. God cannot pour His wrath out while the church is here. That would violate everything we know about God.


The church is raptured to take us away from the seals. the trumpets and the bowls. But the JEWS ALSO are gathered, to their own land they are gathered for the very same reason, to protect them from the seals, the trumpets and the bowls.


But while God is doing all that He is also setting up His kingdom in Israel. The Millennium will begin. There will be reward for those who submit to the reign of Christ with His saints but instant punishment for those who rebel.

you said:"There are NO seals, NO trumpets, NO bowls of wrath in Daniel's 70th week YOU have transposed them there from Revelations."

It seems Billy you have strayed away from the word of GOD to the point that you are in reality calling Him a Liar. His Words in Revelation are not symbolic but real and Your denial of them do not make them any less real.

This is the way of the Charismatic preaching of 9 out of 10 churches especially in the UK and Europe.  So Sad!

Blade

There is nothing wrong with the word of God in Revelations it's just that you take them and stick them in any old where. You mix up events and the prophecies that relate to them.


Seals, trumpets and bowls do not belong in Daniel's 70th week.


The seal the trumpets and the bowls of wrath belong to the period of time after the church is gone but the church is still here in in Daniel's 70th week or at least the first half of it.


Your failure is in not differentiating between the Great Tribulation and the Wrath of God which are two different things.


And actually your "left behind" nonsense is from the charismatics, as a Calvinist you ought have nothing to do with such a teaching on the basis that God cannot punish sin twice.


As for my being Pentecostalist I have no choice for the Holy Ghost fell on me as He fell on the saints of old. I would that ye all were Pentecostalist.


Pentecostalism is where it is all happening if anything is happening.