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Quote from: Bladerunner on August 13, 2020, 08:48:33 am

Quote from: Billy Evmur on August 13, 2020, 05:34:01 am

Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on August 12, 2020, 11:23:35 pm

Matbe I am missing something, but I am really not concerned on who in the Bible or history that is saved and God will chose.  Beyond me and my family and friends like I have here, I worry about them and give guidance when asked.  If they are pasted, nothing I can do to change there status. 

However, it is a great topic for discussion.   Do you really feel Judas is beyond saving, how about Caiaphas?  I mean there was no Christian religion at the time, so not sure how both of them can be condemed when they both had to play there parts for Christ to die for usand save us from sin.

Just courious on that part.

My understanding has always been that WE are passed over from judgement into life, we are saved, already part of the new creation. Everyone else will be judged.


.... but in the last judgement we see sheeps as well as goats. And this judgement takes place AFTER the 1,000 years reign, AFTER the rapture. We will have reigned with Christ in heaven and the Jews will have reigned with Him on earth.

Billy..  who is the WE that have been passed over....Your sins will be accounted for and judged unless you accept Jesus Christ as you Lord and Savior.

The White Throne Judgment is the last judgment. The Sheep and Goats are those people in those nations that befriended Israel or NOT! It takes place prior to the Millennium. Those Sheep will the the gentile nations that will live through the millennium. The goats will have been killed and thrown into Hell...to await another 1,000 years for judgment.

Your having a problem getting things in order where before you had no problems in this area. Are you OK!

Blade

Hi Blade, I'm OK, a cooler cat than yesterday thankfully the temperature has dropped.


I've been saved for more than 40 years Blade. I will be judged as to works but my eternal home is heaven.


Your order of events is skew whiff, the GWT judgement is the final judgement after every single person to have ever lived will be raised. The sheep are awarded an inheritance, the goats eternal punishment.


... cannot possibly happen before the Mill ... no way possible.