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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2019, 11:08:52 pm »
Why Did God Create The Tree of Good and Evil if He Knew Adam and Eve Would Eat From it?


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With this premise, God created Man pure as the driven snow. He gave Him a capacity for good and evil. Place evil on the tree and told man not to eat it. We know the outcome.  This is an interesting video.

We still see this in our children. Tell a child NOT to do something and the first thing they will do is disobey.'

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 02:39:38 pm »

 

I'd prefer to think of the soul as having two containers. Flesh-Spirit-Soul.

The soul is who we are. when we die we know we are still who we were
while alive. The story of the Rich man and Lazarus tells us, we know who, why and what we are, we have all of our senses yet the torment of the flames in HELL do not destroy the container we are in (the spirit).

In Heaven, we will know all others and they us.

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 That is possible by what is written but I wonder, what are Michael and Gabriel - spirits or souls? We know we are spirits as per  Ecclesiastes 12:7 …and the spirit returns to God who gave it. So why refer to the container (spirit) and not to us (soul) in this verse if we are really souls ummm,  what, in a spirit like we are contained in a body?? 

Spirit is ruach, breath. Living soul is nephesh which is used of animals and men but never angels with or without bodies, so it would seem to suggest that a spiritruach when placed into the body brings the body alive by means of the living spirit...creating (?) a nephesh?
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Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2019, 03:24:05 pm »

Why Did God Create The Tree of Good and Evil if He Knew Adam and Eve Would Eat From it?


The law is given to sinners, not to the righteous 1 Timothy 1:9   We also know that the law is made not for the righteous…  The law merely convicts of sin, Rom 3:20  The law simply shows us how sinful we are.

Therefore the first thing to see is that they were sinners before they got the command not to eat, and the command was given so that when they inevitably failed (they were sinners, ie naked,  after all) they would realize they were sinners, have their eyes opened to their sinfulness / nakedness, and repent (fig leaves).


This is the use of all law and it worked like a charm with them. That is why I call the Garden of Eden story the story of the first Great Blessing to the world, not the fall of man.

Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2019, 06:01:14 am »

Why Did God Create The Tree of Good and Evil if He Knew Adam and Eve Would Eat From it?


The law is given to sinners, not to the righteous 1 Timothy 1:9   We also know that the law is made not for the righteous…  The law merely convicts of sin, Rom 3:20  The law simply shows us how sinful we are.

Therefore the first thing to see is that they were sinners before they got the command not to eat, and the command was given so that when they inevitably failed (they were sinners, ie naked,  after all) they would realize they were sinners, have their eyes opened to their sinfulness / nakedness, and repent (fig leaves).
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This is the use of all law and it worked like a charm with them. That is why I call the Garden of Eden story the story of the first Great Blessing to the world, not the fall of man.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2019, 10:42:18 pm »

Why Did God Create The Tree of Good and Evil if He Knew Adam and Eve Would Eat From it?


The law is given to sinners, not to the righteous 1 Timothy 1:9   We also know that the law is made not for the righteous…  The law merely convicts of sin, Rom 3:20  The law simply shows us how sinful we are.

Therefore the first thing to see is that they were sinners before they got the command not to eat, and the command was given so that when they inevitably failed (they were sinners, ie naked,  after all) they would realize they were sinners, have their eyes opened to their sinfulness / nakedness, and repent (fig leaves).
✝🙏🍺🍕🐟👁‍🗨

This is the use of all law and it worked like a charm with them. That is why I call the Garden of Eden story the story of the first Great Blessing to the world, not the fall of man.

It was HIS plan from the beginning....to the Glory of Him. we praise HIM

Blade
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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2020, 01:36:45 pm »
Nobody knows
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: What Really Happened In Eden
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2020, 03:54:46 pm »
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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