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Author Topic: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning  (Read 3100 times)

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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2019, 09:37:58 pm »
The Plurality of God ("Trinity")  as One, based on the Scriptures - A Mystical Union of Heaven.

A Mystical Union is one that God made. A good example is - one of which marriage becomes One Flesh, according to the Scripture. Since marriage is actually made under the jurisdiction of heaven,  it’s God who actually joins the man and the woman in a Mystical Union.

One in Unity is used in the case of Gen. 2:24, The husband and wife are described as One Flesh (echad) by God. The use of the Hebrew word "Echad" (One) in the text... is only possible in the sense of Unity... as Collective One - A Mystical Union from Heaven.

Gen 2 (KJV)
v23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
V24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

And this Mystical Union of Marriage has a Biblical precedent.... The Unity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as One (echad) God - Collective One that is.

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God (Elohim) is One (echad)LORD.

We can also understand John 10:30 in this sense, “I and my Father are one.” One in Unity NOT in number. It is also in this sense that thousands can be One like the builders of the tower of Babel in Gen 11:6. Even the millions of Christians can be One in this sense according to John 17:21.

Here’ another example:

“There are three (numeric) that bear records in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost: and these three (numeric) are One (Unity). 1John 5:7

Therefore, the Plurality or Triune of God is One in Unity... NOT in Numeric Number.

God bless



Thank you Seve, only your version of 1 John 5:7 is the Trinity Version, here is what it really says:

1 John 5:6 NIV
This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

Yes, we are all to become one with God, one mind, one heart and one in soul, through Jesus Christ. But that will not make us God, only in agreement with Him.
The Trinity makes the One and only possible One Infinite God into many, but Christs message was to bring many as one with God. Big difference!

Like Gods son Word was always in agreement with his Father and his God, because?

John 5:          The Authority of the Son
16 So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

(Why did the Jews think Jesus was making himself equal with God? Because he was even calling God his own Father. This means the Jews would consider us believers and disciples of Christ blasphemers, for we also accept God as our Heavenly Father.)

19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

John 12:44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.

Did Jesus send himself, or was it his Father who sent him?

Yes, marriage makes two as one, because Eve was taken out of Adam. But the Trinity make One God, our One and Only Infinite Creator into three persons.
That's like saying: Adam is not Adam without Eve and Cain, .. or Eve and Seth. That Adam is a triune-person; Adam, Eve and Seth together make up Adam. This is what the Trinity is about, separating God into many, like what the demon Legion was.

God bless you Seve.

 

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