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Brian used to talk a lot about teaching people to do exegesis he still talks about it some, kind of like a pet peeve or passion of his, to help people learn how to draw out from scripture what God put there rather than what so many people do when they read into scripture what is not there.

A friend once said: "That is not in the bible!" often means, "I've never heard of or thought about that interpretation before..."

Is not all exegesis interpretation? IF not, then must I call all exegesis that does not agree with me eisegesis?  Can I not decide if I am getting an interpretation of a verse from the Spirit through the verse? Or must I always decide that if I am not agreeing with someone I am putting my interpretation onto the verse, not getting it out of the verse?

Which demands the question:whose interpretation must I 'get out' of a verse?? Catholic, Calvin or Arminius ? (just to stay mainstream and not go into the cults). Every one of them claim to be using the technique of exegesis, not eisegesis, though they all differ in interpretation and scold me for eisegesis whenever I differ from them, sigh.

It seems like the tough stance on exegesis is to control all thought into the parameters of only one theology...if someone is off a bit - the war cry of eisegesis must go up! What is the proof that my different opinion on the meaning of a verse is from myself, man made, and not from the Spirit? Only that it disagrees with the expert who is reading it, sigh.[/quote] we talked about this the other day...there is a difference between comprehension which purposes to know what the author intended and interpretation which is what I as the reader wants it to say.  Exegesis if used correctly is about comprehension whereas eisegesis is about interpretation.  You are right that way too many people use the terms wrong.

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Anyway, I know you're not MAD Lori but you do believe in the triune Godhead right?


If you weren't thinking of a bit of a side trip I guess this could be split if I knew how...


  We have no problem identifying a human as part of humanity because we all share the same human attributes. What is so strange about identifying the Divine Persons from their Divine attributes?
 
God the Father is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

God the Son is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

God the Holy Spirit is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

These Divine attributes do not make three divine beings but by their nature form a oneness, a complete unity called The ONE TRUE LIVING GOD. This God is our Creator and the sum goodness of all life. God the Son is also the one we know as God incarnate, the man Jesus.

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Anyway, I know you're not MAD Lori but you do believe in the triune Godhead right?


If you weren't thinking of a bit of a side trip I guess this could be split if I knew how...


  We have no problem identifying a human as part of humanity because we all share the same human attributes. What is so strange about identifying the Divine Persons from their Divine attributes?
 
God the Father is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

God the Son is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

God the Holy Spirit is an intelligent, self aware Person capable of pure love and true free will and who is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

These Divine attributes do not make three divine beings but by their nature form a oneness, a complete unity called The ONE TRUE LIVING GOD. This God is our Creator and the sum goodness of all life. God the Son is also the one we know as God incarnate, the man Jesus.

Peace, Ted


you said "WE"  ???

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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


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