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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING
« on: October 01, 2018, 09:11:58 am »
The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


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Brian used to talk a lot about teaching people to do exegesis he still talks about it some, kind of like a pet peeve or passion of his, to help people learn how to draw out from scripture what God put there rather than what so many people do when they read into scripture what is not there.
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Brian used to talk a lot about teaching people to do exegesis he still talks about it some, kind of like a pet peeve or passion of his, to help people learn how to draw out from scripture what God put there rather than what so many people do when they read into scripture what is not there.
Lori, believe it or not I know quite a bit of your theological view from reading many of your posts but we never really talk. You are so engaged with people and so good at deifying and uplifting people with scriptures and exegesis. You probably know I'm Mid Acts Dispensation and I think our newest member victoriaroseinchrist in these videos is also.

We met through Grace Ambassadors Bible Study and she lives in Texas where I have lots of friends and relatives. Amazing that we met and I got the idea of putting hers and Joe's videos on my forum, genius. Anyway, I know you're not MAD Lori but you do believe in the triune Godhead right?
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Yes I do believe in the triune God...Father, Son, and Holy Spirit make up ONE Godhead.

I have heard some explain it as the Father and Son are one and the same which is not what I believe.  My belief is more like I am mother, daughter, wife but still only one person.  I believe that the Father, Son, and HS are God's way of explaining to man what is impossible for man to fully understand.  I also believe that is the trinity is truth, that we should see scriptures that testify to both the trinity and the none triune nature of God which is what we see or at least what I see...;)
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The video is completely wrong at 1:10, if not before.  Christ did say all those things early on; the accounts are the 'drama' of whether and when the disciples would understand it.  You can't deny things that you have never heard of.  To be in denial is not to have never heard:

'He will be called Joshua because he will save his people from their sins.'

'to give his people knowledge of salvation,
through the forgiveness of their sin.'

And most important:
'But the temple he had spoken of was his body.  After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said.  Then they believed the Scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.'

The question was whether Jesus said these things early on.  The answer from the above passage:  very early on.  But they were not believed.  That is a different question.

I have no idea who this sweetie is but she is simply restating what has been the confusion of Dispensationalism for 200 years when Darby and Scofield first decided the bible didn't make sense without them.  No one in the Reformation stream of theology ever said that.  She is giving us fake theology. 

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I don't know of any Jews in Judaism in the 1st century Judea who thought they were supposed to 'start to obey the commands.'  In fact there were too many commands.  What no one had until the declaration of the 'year of God's favor' (also early in Christ's work) was the force of grace to inspire a person.  Judaism had completely lost that.

I'm sorry but it is too painful to watch more than a minute of this kind of thing spiral further and further from what is actually going on in the NT. 

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I don't know of any Jews in Judaism in the 1st century Judea who thought they were supposed to 'start to obey the commands.'  In fact there were too many commands.  What no one had until the declaration of the 'year of God's favor' (also early in Christ's work) was the force of grace to inspire a person.  Judaism had completely lost that.

I'm sorry but it is too painful to watch more than a minute of this kind of thing spiral further and further from what is actually going on in the NT.

would like to see your copy of the Urtext...NO?

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Chart Lesson: Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth


No Christian can follow every instruction in the Holy Bible. Inevitably, a choice must be made to follow one instruction and not another, but how? This dispensational chart lesson summarizes the Holy Bible and brings clarity to the most important right division you can make – Prophecy vs. Mystery. Learn how you can know the will of God and discern which instructions apply to you.

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Chart Lesson: Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth


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I listened to all of this video and come to a different conclusion to the speakers discussion. He left out most all of Acts 2 except that which seemed to refer to the LAW in verse 16--17-18... Yet he fails to speak of verse 21.."And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Then from Acts 2:22 onward, the speaker still places this in the dispensation of the LAW. Rem, John 16:16.."The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."

Afterwards, the speaker skips and ignores Peter in verse 2:38.."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

The apostles has received the Holy Spirit in the first part of Acts 2 and the disciples (around 3,000) that were there for witnesses heard what Peter had to say and were saved that day and received the Holy Spirit.

As we see, the law was not present in Acts 2, but was in the beginnings of a transition of the people and their understandings of the Law toward the Grace of Jesus Christ.

While the speaker did have most of his dispensations right, he left the Dispensation of Grace out. The Church began with the conversion of 3,000 Jewish souls, who are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Until Acts 10, no Gentiles were converted. Cornelius was the first.

Yes, we are all the same in the Church (Body/Bride) of Christ, yet our cultures can be completely different. Even today, Messianic Jews ( those who are saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ) stick to some of their cultural habits and there is no problem in that. Because they do not eat certain meat or because they observe the Sabbath (Saturday), does not make them outside of the commandments of Jesus Christ as given by Paul and the apostles in the New Testament.

Those Jews that do not follow Jesus Christ, will be condemned to go through Daniel's 70th Week.

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Thanks for that Blade, it's good to know if the man I listen to is right or leaving things out etc. If you see this post let me know which theologians you like or study.

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Thanks for that Blade, it's good to know if the man I listen to is right or leaving things out etc. If you see this post let me know which theologians you like or study.

They are on their way.
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Thanks for that Blade, it's good to know if the man I listen to is right or leaving things out etc. If you see this post let me know which theologians you like or study.

They are on their way.
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The ONLY Way to Truly Understand The Bible // RIGHTLY DIVIDING


The only way to truly understand the Bible and the gospel of our salvation is to rightly divide the Bible. Separating prophecy from mystery; God's earthly plan for Israel and His heavenly plan for the Body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Jesus' Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Peter Ministry to Israel (prophecy):

Acts 3:17-21 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began

Paul's Ministry to the Body of Christ (mystery):

Romans 15:16 that I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


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