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So, in other words..... you got nuthin'

My "awakening" isn't what this thread is about, but I don't mind talking about the process.

No- awakening is not the pathway to heaven, but the pathway to heaven cannot be traveled unless you are awake.  If you are asleep, you dream, but if you are awaken, you walk.  He who looks outside, dreams; He who looks inside, awakens.

All of your other questions relate.

Who can travel this path and how?  Anyone and everyone can travel this path, but most don't perceive of it.  Most dismiss the reality and are willing to trade it for soup du jour like Esau.  Messengers come and go to all, with people mostly unaware or in ignorance or sleepiness or pride they dismiss the message or simply don't understand it...

Dreams are the pathway.  There are other ways to see and I know some people have had things like near death experiences, or out of body experiences where they become aware that their spirit lives and experiences reality on a different plane.  Some people benefit from meditation, but I'm inept and a complete novice in this regard.

My cowboy friend Mark seems to be aware of everything that happens to some degree and he was able to travel at will.  It was almost like he was the proverbial fly on the wall, able to come and go and see and hear without much of a fuss.  The help he provided me was mostly in the form of understanding what it was I was seeing, but first he taught me to pay attention. 

Before he became known as the apostle Peter, there was a simple fisherman named Simon.  True to the meaning of his name -one who hearkens.  To see, one must only turn, and look.  This is the true meaning of repentance.

Without Mark's help I would be a wild mustang- free and untamed, this much is true.  Wild horses are beautiful enough and live their lives unchecked and unencumbered, but for what broader purpose?  They live for themselves and nothing more.  More noble is the horse who lends its strength to another for a greater purpose outside of itself.  At least that is how I see things these days.  We were taught to pray-- not my will, but thine.  -And unto Thee, I commit my spirit.

There is great value in learning from one's mistakes- the key is to not let it take to long.  Of greater value is the gift of learning from the mistakes of others... all of the benefit, none of the pain.  To accept this kind of help from another is wisdom. 

If I was a horse, Mark is a horse whisperer.  And as is the case of any messenger who might come to you- the nature of the messenger can be discerned by the quality of the message.  As a beginning point, the horse has to listen to what is being said, and only then can one begin to learn to understand.

There is a really good book by C.S. Lewis on his concepts of Heaven and Hell written in a fictional story format.  Excellent read.  I highly recommend it if you go in with an open mind.  Check out  "The Great Divorce"   Nice insights into one concept of The Kingdom of Heaven.

I'm not happy about people going to hell. I don't think of heaven as a "reward" but a free gift from God the Father.

My pleasure Patrick. 

My apology. It is as you say on names.