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Believe me, I've thought a lot about death and hell. The only conclusion I can draw is that I don't die. How bad can the suffering and torment be? It's not bad enough to kill me, I can't stop it, I must accept it and it lasts forever. I have nothing to fear at that point, no mystery to solve, no surprises maybe. Unless each day starts and you begin remembering all the evil we did, lol.

Then it gets to the question of what exactly determines whether I go to hell. In 1st grade I asked the teacher, a nun about how many sins gets you to hell? You never get a straight answer with a straightforward question like that, especially a kid. I had another question for a different nun and asked if I was on my way to confession but got hit by a car out front and killed what would happen? She said I'd go to hell, point blank. I did not believe her, lol.

Our topic does throw doubt on what amount of physical pain would be effective to a soul capable of rational thought, there has to be a maximum threshold somewhere and once you’ve had the worst, it can’t be any worse, no matter how long eternity is. If it’s incremental, you’d have to have the comfort of the easier punishments wiped from your mind. I think most of the actual torment would have to be psychological to have any kind of lasting effects. Again, a rational mind would have to be augmented into a state of irrational thought for this to work for any length of time, I think anyway.