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Olde Tymer

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Left Behind
« on: January 25, 2019, 05:31:54 am »
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I recently viewed a 2014 movie on NetFlix starring Nicolas Cage titled "Left Behind". There was a glaring omission: nobody came back from the dead for the rapture; only living people were taken out.

Something else overlooked by the movie's producers is the category of folk who are supposed to be taken. According to 1Thess 4:13-17, they are "in him" and "in Christ"; viz: the rapture is exclusive; Christ is coming back for his church and no others.

Well; in order to get in Jesus' church, one must first believe the gospel. Then they have to be sealed in him by the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13). Therefore; non believing, non sealed children won't be taken in the real rapture. The movie's rapture took all the children.
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 09:31:12 am »
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I recently viewed a 2014 movie on NetFlix starring Nicolas Cage titled "Left Behind". There was a glaring omission: nobody came back from the dead for the rapture; only living people were taken out.

Something else overlooked by the movie's producers is the category of folk who are supposed to be taken. According to 1Thess 4:13-17, they are "in him" and "in Christ"; viz: the rapture is exclusive; Christ is coming back for his church and no others.

Well; in order to get in Jesus' church, one must first believe the gospel. Then they have to be sealed in him by the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13). Therefore; non believing, non sealed children won't be taken in the real rapture. The movie's rapture took all the children.
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I agree except where the children are concerned. Jesus tells us those who believe in him will see him through a child's eyes. Also there is a knowing age where the child becomes responsible for his/her actions. (i.e. 12-13- Jewish ceremonies,'bar mitzvah')

There were other discrepancies that I don' agree with but it was a good start.  As far as the dead rising, do you envision the graves exploding into the air and the dead rising slowly enough for people to see them those bodies as they ascend to heaven?  Rem a twinkle of the eye is around 10 to the minus 43 power

Have a great day sir.
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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 10:53:13 am »
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It's sometimes objected that a truly loving, sensitive, kind-hearted god would never leave children behind to go thru the calamitous events depicted in the book of Revelation.

How many children were spared the Flood?

How many children were spared Sodom and Gomorrah?

How many children would've been collateral damage had not the adults in Nineveh heeded Jonah's preaching?

Being left out of the rapture may be a death sentence for some but it isn't a sentence to hell; I mean, after all, according to Rev 7:9-17, a very large number of people will be saved during the calamities; which includes a world-wide earthquake so severe on the Richter scale that every city on Earth will collapse at once; no doubt resulting in an unimaginable body count.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a small portion of New York City. Just imagine the carnage when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo, et al.


FYI: The rapture and the second coming of Christ are two separate events. The one precedes the other by seven years. Only his church will see Christ at the rapture. The whole world will see him at the second coming.
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 08:57:32 pm »
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It's sometimes objected that a truly loving, sensitive, kind-hearted god would never leave children behind to go thru the calamitous events depicted in the book of Revelation.

How many children were spared the Flood?

How many children were spared Sodom and Gomorrah?

How many children would've been collateral damage had not the adults in Nineveh heeded Jonah's preaching?

Being left out of the rapture may be a death sentence for some but it isn't a sentence to hell; I mean, after all, according to Rev 7:9-17, a very large number of people will be saved during the calamities; which includes a world-wide earthquake so severe on the Richter scale that every city on Earth will collapse at once; no doubt resulting in an unimaginable body count.

You said :"Being left out of the rapture may be a death sentence for some but it isn't a sentence to hell"

Are you going to tell the reader how they WILL NOT GO TO HELL during this time? The 144,000 will be ministering to the earth. Those that come to believe in Jesus will be  martyred, the rest,,, well Hell awaits.


Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a small portion of New York City. Just imagine the carnage when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo, et al.[/size]

FYI: The rapture and the second coming of Christ are two separate events. The one precedes the other by seven years. No one but his own will see Christ at the rapture. The whole world will see him at the second coming.

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I have my doubts about it being just seven years for the anti-christ will have to come to power before he can sign a covenant with many.

This suggest a gap period  of very possibly up to 33 years prior to Daniel's 70th week.

Hey, Olde TImer, how are you doing, OK I hope?

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 10:11:11 pm »
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My contributions to this thread may be taken as a public service announcement.

I close my remarks with lines from the movie spoken a few hours after the rapture that go something like this:

Journalist: It looks like the end of the world.

Chloe Steele: No, not yet. I'm afraid this is just the beginning.
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 10:46:43 pm »
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My contributions to this thread may be taken as a public service announcement.

I close my remarks with lines from the movie spoken a few hours after the rapture that go something like this:

Journalist: It looks like the end of the world.

Chloe Steele: No, not yet. I'm afraid this is just the beginning.
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Yes it probably is a public service announcement but are the Journalist at CNN..... leaving out parts of the truth for what?

Just tell the whole story according to scripture.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2020, 01:31:50 pm »
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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Left Behind
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2020, 03:48:39 pm »
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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