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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2018, 10:31:46 am »
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I know of the preacher who was asked by Audie Murphy's widow Pamela to speak at her husband's funeral. Audie Murphy, as you may already know, was a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner; but he wasn't a Christian.

In amazement, the pastor asked Mrs. Murphy why she chose a Christian to speak at her husband's funeral.

Although Audie himself wasn't a Christian, Pamela was; and she explained that the Hollywood crowd would be there the day of his funeral, and having hob-nobbed with them during her husband's acting career, she was fully aware that many of them were rarely confronted with something serious about the afterlife.

Well; they got both barrels that day, and were very annoyed because they were expecting the usual sappy, feel-good rhetoric to which pampered celebrities are accustomed.

Some may feel that hell isn't an appropriate topic at a funeral. But I think that, other than Xmas and Easter, you couldn't pick a better time to bring it up, especially since Christ said that the majority ends up there.

Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of gaiety, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this seriously.

According to the Bible; not many great people are called (1Cor 1:26). If that's true, then we have to expect that the majority of the world's best and brightest achievers-- the really big names in sports, science, medicine, law, politics, technology, business, industry, religion, entertainment, and education, etc --don't, and won't, make it to safety when they pass on.

As I watched some of the splendor and pomp of former President Gerald Ford's funeral back in January of 2007, I couldn't help but wonder if he was in a position to really appreciate it; as I suspect people in hell would certainly no longer really care anymore whether they were given an unknown pauper's disposal in a City incinerator, or reverently placed in a grand tomb in the National Cemetery with world-wide television coverage.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 75 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 4,568,700 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2018, 09:31:22 am »
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Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this law by doing them.

One thing that must be emphasized is that the curse is irrevocable; so it's very important to come to grips with it; and the sooner the better.

Matt 5:18 . . For assuredly, I say to you: till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will by any means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

In other words: whoever deserves that curse is absolutely certain to get it.

In point of fact, Deut 27:26 is grammatically present tense rather than future, indicating that the curse is instant-- no delay and no waiting period. i.e. it's already on the books hanging over people's heads like a guillotine just waiting for an officer to give the executioner a signal to let go the rope keeping the blade in check.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 77 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 4,690,532 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2018, 08:16:38 pm »
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Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this law by doing them.

One thing that must be emphasized is that the curse is irrevocable; so it's very important to come to grips with it; and the sooner the better.

Matt 5:18 . . For assuredly, I say to you: till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will by any means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

In other words: whoever deserves that curse is absolutely certain to get it.

In point of fact, Deut 27:26 is grammatically present tense rather than future, indicating that the curse is instant-- no delay and no waiting period. i.e. it's already on the books hanging over people's heads like a guillotine just waiting for an officer to give the executioner a signal to let go the rope keeping the blade in check.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 77 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 4,690,532 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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  Fortunately for us, Olde Tymer, we during this dispensation of Grace are not under the "Law of Moses".

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2018, 10:19:57 am »
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POSIT: The Old Testament's God abhors human sacrifices. Therefore, He couldn't possibly approve of the New Testament's cross. For example: Jer 32:33-35 and Deut 12:31.

RESPONSE: The Old Testament prohibitions related to human sacrifices all pertain to underage children rather than consenting adults, e.g. Lev 18:21, Lev 20:2-5, Deut 12:31, Deut 18:10, cf. 2Kgs 16:3, 2Kgs 17:31, 2Kgs 23:10, 2Kgs 21:6, Ps 106:34, Ezk 20:31, Ezk 23:37, Jer 7:31, Jer 19:4, and Jer 32:35.

The Old Testament predicted human sacrifice; with God's full approval and participation no less.

Isa 53:6 . . The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Isa 53:10 . . It was The Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer . . .The Lord makes his life a guilt offering.


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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2018, 07:51:07 am »
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Q: Can you cite an Old Testament example where God approved human sacrifice?

A: Abraham lived a pretty good number of years before Israel's covenanted law was instituted. Therefore, he wasn't obligated to comply with it because biblical law doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction; viz: it isn't retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17)

So then, Abraham was in a position to offer a human sacrifice without incurring guilt; which he did.

Gen 22:1-2 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him: Abraham! And he said: Here I am. And He said: Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.

Did Abraham slay Isaac? No, but did Abraham offer Isaac? Yes.

Gen 22:9 . .Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

You see, once a gift dedicated to God is placed on an altar, it's a done deal-- whether the offering is dead or alive makes no difference. In point of fact, the letter to Hebrews credits Abraham with offering his son in obedience to God's command.

Heb 11:17 . . By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

Had God disapproved human sacrifice, He would've stopped Abraham before Isaac was laid on the altar.

So then, the next question is: was Isaac a consenting adult?

Well; according to Gen 22:6-7, Isaac was old enough to shoulder a load of wood; so he wasn't a little boy like so many people like to think he was. Plus, he was mature enough to understand the particulars of a burnt offering.

If the narrative's chronology is tight, then the next event in Isaac's life was the death of his mother at 127 (Gen 23:1-2). She was 90 when Isaac was born (Gen 17:17) making him quite possibly around 37 at the time of the Akedah.

Another Old Testament example is located in the 53rd chapter of Isaiah.


NOTE: According to Gen 18:23-33, Abraham wasn't above challenging God's sense of right and wrong. Had the old boy seriously believed that offering his son Isaac as a burnt offering was wrong, he would've said something; in point of fact, he had three days to think about it. (Gen 22:4)

POP CLOCK UPDATE: 81 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 4,934,196 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2018, 07:31:15 pm »
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Q: Can you cite an Old Testament example where God approved human sacrifice?

A: Abraham lived a pretty good number of years before Israel's covenanted law was instituted. Therefore, he wasn't obligated to comply with it because biblical law doesn't have ex post facto jurisdiction; viz: it isn't retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17)

So then, Abraham was in a position to offer a human sacrifice without incurring guilt; which he did.

Gen 22:1-2 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him: Abraham! And he said: Here I am. And He said: Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.

Did Abraham slay Isaac? No, but did Abraham offer Isaac? Yes.

Gen 22:9 . .Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

You see, once a gift dedicated to God is placed on an altar, it's a done deal-- whether the offering is dead or alive makes no difference. In point of fact, the letter to Hebrews credits Abraham with offering his son in obedience to God's command.

Heb 11:17 . . By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

Had God disapproved human sacrifice, He would've stopped Abraham before Isaac was laid on the altar.

So then, the next question is: was Isaac a consenting adult?

Well; according to Gen 22:6-7, Isaac was old enough to shoulder a load of wood; so he wasn't a little boy like so many people like to think he was. Plus, he was mature enough to understand the particulars of a burnt offering.

If the narrative's chronology is tight, then the next event in Isaac's life was the death of his mother at 127 (Gen 23:1-2). She was 90 when Isaac was born (Gen 17:17) making him quite possibly around 37 at the time of the Akedah.

Another Old Testament example is located in the 53rd chapter of Isaiah.


NOTE: According to Gen 18:23-33, Abraham wasn't above challenging God's sense of right and wrong. Had the old boy seriously believed that offering his son Isaac as a burnt offering was wrong, he would've said something; in point of fact, he had three days to think about it. (Gen 22:4)

POP CLOCK UPDATE: 81 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 4,934,196 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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I think there was something different going on here.

God had already told Abraham that Isaac would be the one who all the nations came from. Now, He tells him to sacrifice Him prior to his promise.... This simply was a way for GOD to test Abraham faith in HIM. One Abraham's side, He knew that if He killed Isaac, then God would have to resurrect him if His Promise was to be keep. Abraham loved and had faith in GOD. This is the reason why He was ready to sacrifice His son so readily without argument.

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2018, 09:08:02 am »
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Ex 20:5 . . I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me.

Q: How is that fair? holding children responsible for what their parents do?

A: Ex 20:5-- along with Ex 34:7, Num 14:18, and Deut 5:9 --is often construed to mean that children are held responsible for their parents' sins; but that isn't it. What we're looking at here is collateral damage. It is apparently God's prerogative to get back at people by going after their posterity and/or the people they govern.

There's a horrific example of collateral damage located at Num 16:25-34.

Another is the Flood. No doubt quite a few underage children drowned in that event due to their parents' decadence.

The same happened to the children in Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ham's punishment for humiliating his father Noah was a curse upon his son Canaan.

A hundred and twenty thousand youngsters, along with livestock, would've perished in Nineveh had not the adults responded favorably to Jonah's preaching.

During Moses' face-off with Pharaoh, God moved against the man's firstborn son along with all those of his subjects.

There are times when God chooses to judge people by going after not only themselves; but also the things that pertain to them; including, but not limited to, their progeny. I don't quite understand the logic of that kind of justice; but then again: I don't try; I just go along with it; primarily because it's futile to find fault with God-- it's a foregone conclusion that even if He's in the wrong; you'll come out the loser.

Isa 45:9 . . Destruction is certain for those who argue with their creator. Does a clay pot ever argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes it, saying: Stop, you are doing it wrong! Does the pot exclaim: How clumsy can you be!


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 83 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,056,028 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2018, 06:55:55 pm »
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Ex 20:5 . . I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me.

Q: How is that fair? holding children responsible for what their parents do?

A: Ex 20:5-- along with Ex 34:7, Num 14:18, and Deut 5:9 --is often construed to mean that children are held responsible for their parents' sins; but that isn't it. What we're looking at here is collateral damage. It is apparently God's prerogative to get back at people by going after their posterity and/or the people they govern.

There's a horrific example of collateral damage located at Num 16:25-34.

Another is the Flood. No doubt quite a few underage children drowned in that event due to their parents' decadence.

The same happened to the children in Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ham's punishment for humiliating his father Noah was a curse upon his son Canaan.

A hundred and twenty thousand youngsters, along with livestock, would've perished in Nineveh had not the adults responded favorably to Jonah's preaching.

During Moses' face-off with Pharaoh, God moved against the man's firstborn son along with all those of his subjects.

There are times when God chooses to judge people by going after not only themselves; but also the things that pertain to them; including, but not limited to, their progeny. I don't quite understand the logic of that kind of justice; but then again: I don't try; I just go along with it; primarily because it's futile to find fault with God-- it's a foregone conclusion that even if He's in the wrong; you'll come out the loser.

Isa 45:9 . . Destruction is certain for those who argue with their creator. Does a clay pot ever argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes it, saying: Stop, you are doing it wrong! Does the pot exclaim: How clumsy can you be!


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 83 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,056,028 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Of course you did...Did WHAT? Misread it,,,,,,"you said .."on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me.[/b]

try reading it literally!

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2018, 07:09:27 am »
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Q: Doesn't Acts 2:24-33 say Christ went to hell at his death?

A: The koiné Greek word for "hell" in that passage of the KJV is haides [haw'-dace) a.k.a. hades, which is an ambiguous word for the netherworld-- an afterlife sphere where everybody goes when they pass on; both the good and the bad and the young and the old. Although haides can include fiery suffering in the afterlife (e.g. Luke 16:23) it doesn't always mean that because the netherworld location to which Christ departed was pleasant.

Luke 23:39-43 . . One of the criminals hanging beside him scoffed: So you're the Messiah, are you? Prove it by saving yourself-- and us, too, while you're at it! But the other criminal protested: Aren't you afraid of God? Not even when you're dying? We deserve to die for our evil deeds, but this man hasn't done anything wrong. Then he said: Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus replied: I assure you; today you will be with me in paradise.

The koiné Greek word for "paradise" is paradeisos (par-ad'-i-sos) which means: a park; defined as: 1) a tract of land that often includes lawns, woodland, and pasture attached to a country house and is used as a game preserve and for recreation, and/or 2) a piece of ground in or near a city or town kept for ornament and recreation, and/or 3) an area maintained in its natural state as a public property.

Q: If Jesus went to paradise on the day of his death, then why did he tell Mary Magdalene three days later at John 20:17 that he had not yet ascended to his Father?

A: Paradise is structured somewhat like the Pacific Crest Trail (a.k.a. PCT) which traverses the north/south length of three states-- California, Oregon, and Washington. No matter which of the three states you might encounter trekkers at any given moment-- whether south in Campo San Diego, or crossing the Bridge Of The Gods in Cascade Locks Oregon, or Snoqualmie Pass Washington --they're all on the very same PCT.

Paradise is sort of like that. There's a section underground (Matt 12:40, Luke 16:19-31) another in a celestial region called the third heaven (2Cor 12:2-4) and yet another section located up in God's neck of the woods. (Rev 2:7)

According to Matt 12:40, John 20:17, and Acts 2:24-32; Christ didn't go up during his demise, rather, he went down. I'm guessing the section of paradise to which he and the other guy departed was the very same one where Abraham and Lazarus were situated in the 16th chapter of Luke.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 85 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,177,860 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2018, 09:36:36 pm »
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Q: Doesn't Acts 2:24-33 say Christ went to hell at his death?

A: The koiné Greek word for "hell" in that passage of the KJV is haides [haw'-dace) a.k.a. hades, which is an ambiguous word for the netherworld-- an afterlife sphere where everybody goes when they pass on; both the good and the bad and the young and the old. Although haides can include fiery suffering in the afterlife (e.g. Luke 16:23) it doesn't always mean that because the netherworld location to which Christ departed was pleasant.


You are reading about the Hades from Greek methology and I will give you GOD's WORD about HELL...Luk 16:19
Here, Jesus' words tells us about hell through the rich-man.


Luke 23:39-43 . . One of the criminals hanging beside him scoffed: So you're the Messiah, are you? Prove it by saving yourself-- and us, too, while you're at it! But the other criminal protested: Aren't you afraid of God? Not even when you're dying? We deserve to die for our evil deeds, but this man hasn't done anything wrong. Then he said: Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And Jesus replied: I assure you; today you will be with me in paradise.

Again through Luke 23:39-43, we see that Jesus is in Abram's Bosom. This is a holding place for those souls who followed the law as best they could and having faith in God (the father from the OT), This is what Jesus will call Paradise. When He leaves in three days he will take the captives with him. This will be the entire resurrection of those in Abram's Bosom to Heaven named Paradise by JESUS and Paul. (2co 12-4, Rev 2-7)




The koiné Greek word for "paradise" is paradeisos (par-ad'-i-sos) which means: a park; defined as: 1) a tract of land that often includes lawns, woodland, and pasture attached to a country house and is used as a game preserve and for recreation, and/or 2) a piece of ground in or near a city or town kept for ornament and recreation, and/or 3) an area maintained in its natural state as a public property.

Strong's G387-Paradeisos....(παράδεισος parádeisos, par-ad'-i-sos; of Oriental origin (compare H6508); a park, i.e. (specially), an Eden (place of future happiness, "paradise"):—paradise.)
Don't know where you got your def. but here is the Strong's definition of the G387--Paradeisos.   Is this not what Heaven is suppose to be.


Q: If Jesus went to paradise on the day of his death, then why did he tell Mary Magdalene three days later at John 20:17 that he had not yet ascended to his Father?

When Jesus died, He went to Abram's Bosom. While not a paradise, not a bad place. after three days, He had not ascended to His Father although He did have his transfigured body.  We see this throughout the next 40 days he is on earth. He appears within the upper room even thought the door is locked and not by walking through the walls,but by simply appearing in the middle of the room. Scientifically, this is one of the extra dimensions this transfigured body has (time). (We will be like that one day as we will see HIM as HE is.)



A: Paradise is structured somewhat like the Pacific Crest Trail (a.k.a. PCT) which traverses the north/south length of three states-- California, Oregon, and Washington. No matter which of the three states you might encounter trekkers at any given moment-- whether south in Campo San Diego, or crossing the Bridge Of The Gods in Cascade Locks Oregon, or Snoqualmie Pass Washington --they're all on the very same PCT.

Paradise is sort of like that. There's a section underground (Matt 12:40, Luke 16:19-31) another in a celestial region called the third heaven (2Cor 12:2-4) and yet another section located up in God's neck of the woods. (Rev 2:7)

You dare to compare something on earth to Rev 2:7 :"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God."



According to Matt 12:40, John 20:17, and Acts 2:24-32; Christ didn't go up during his demise, rather, he went down. I'm guessing the section of paradise to which he and the other guy departed was the very same one where Abraham and Lazarus were situated in the 16th chapter of Luke.[/size]

Until Jesus' death, all souls believing in GOD and following the law as best as they could went to Abram's Bosom. After the Death, Burial and Resurrection  (1 Cor 15:1-4) of Jesus Christ, all death results in burial of the body and the souls resides in a special place in heaven until Jesus returns to collect His Bride. The Harpazo-Rapture


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 85 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,177,860 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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There are a lot more people to find their way to that area Old Timer in the LITTLE time we all have left.. In fact the Bible tells us that Hell has increase in size.  Isa 5:14

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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2018, 07:53:47 am »
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As if hell isn't bad enough, people are in it as their selves; viz: they are never going to be free from their own personalities-- their phobias, their hang-ups, their inner conflicts, their memories, their anger, their hostility, their rivalries, their prejudice, their bias, their angst, their gender issues, their resentments, their regrets, their disappointments, their bitterness, their animosity, their passions, and their appetites.

Hell is even more of a hell than you might think because, having missed out on the regeneration about which Christ spoke at John 3:3-8, people take who they are right along with them down there.

Thus; suicide is not a good way to relieve depression. Depressed people and/or despondent people, take that low state of mind right along with them to the other side; and their sorrow will be even more intensified in fire when they realize that as bad as things were up here on the surface, their situation up here wasn't nearly as bad as their situation down below.

You can escape poor health via death, you can escape credit card debt, you can escape an abusive spouse, you can escape taxes, you can escape a physical handicap, you can escape pimples, you can escape a bully, you can escape despots and tyrants, you can escape a life of neither promise nor future, you can escape prison, you can escape grinding poverty, and you can escape the Mafioso; but nobody can escape themselves.

"You've made this day a special day, by just your being you.
There's no person in the whole world like you;
And I like you just the way you are."

(Fred Rogers, a.k.a. Mister Rogers)

Well; I appreciate Fred's work with children; but the fact of the matter is: there are grown-ups out there who do not feel special nor do they particularly like the way they are; and that's never going to change should they end up in the wrong place when they leave this life.

POP CLOCK UPDATE: 87 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,299,692 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2018, 09:56:07 am »
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Q: What sane father would condemn His own children to eternal punishment simply because they don't agree with him?

A: While visiting Athens, Paul said the below:

"For in Him we live and move and have our being. As some of your own poets have said: We are his offspring. Therefore since we are God's offspring . . . yada, yada, yada." (Acts 17:27-29)

From that passage, quite a few folk have concluded that humanity is God's progeny the same as Christ. But we know for a fact that humanity's association with God isn't by means of biological reproduction. Humanity is God's handiwork; His creation. (Gen 1:26-27, Gen 2:7, Matt 19:4)

So, in order for individuals to get in God's family, and thus be counted as His bona fide posterity, they have to undergo a special adoption process.

"When the fulness of the time came, God sent forth His son-- born of a woman, born under the Law --in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons." (Gal 4:3-6)

But in order to get in on that particular adoption, people have to first undergo creation all over again.

"As many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:12-13)

"Don't be surprised at my statement that you must be born again." (John 3:7)

Bottom line: God doesn't condemn the members of His own family to eternal punishment; but He won't hesitate to condemn yours if they neglect to follow Christ's instructions.

"I assure you: unless you are born again, you can never see the Kingdom of God." (John 3:3)


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 89 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,299,692 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2018, 09:47:28 am »
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I was once challenged by an Atheist that if I believed so strongly in the existence of a hell; then what was I doing for people down there.

Well; I had to tell the Atheist that although it isn't God's wishes that people end up suffering in hell, it is His wishes that they suffer once they get there. So that even if it were in my power to do something to make their situation a bit more tolerable and/or a bit more comfortable-- which it isn't --I wouldn't dare attempt to circumvent God's wishes; and neither would Christ.

John 4:34 . . My food is to do the will of Him that sent me.

John 8:29 . . And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

John 10:30 . . I and my Father are unified.

That means Christ wouldn't have protested, nor interfered, in either Noah's Flood or the fiery destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah; even though a number of infants and underage children went to their deaths as collateral damage in both events.

John 5:19 . .Whatever the Father does, the Son also does.


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 91 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 5,543,356 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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