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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2019, 09:32:45 pm »

Noah's Flood covered the entire world not something the size of a big lake...THE WHOLE WORLD!

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Correct, The flood covers the isolated ENTIRE WORLD OF ADAM .... which was much much smaller than our present world... continue reading my previous postings below... for your additional learning, in case you missed it...

As I have posted previously…. Adam's world was FLAT and much smaller than our present world. It's highest point is only about 22 1/2 feet above sea level, Gen 7:20 while our earth’ highest elevation is some 29k ft. above sea level in comparison. Their entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while the present World has thousands of Rivers all over the face of the earth, indicating it was much much smaller than our Earth.

Adam’s firmament of heaven was placed in the vicinity beneath the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a completely enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from waters below and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.

Here are some model images of Ancient Hebrew Perspective of Flat Earth - simili - for reference only - Adam's firmament of heaven - surrounded by waters below and above it - see link below....

https://www.pinterest.ph/pin/113715959316206919/

Adam’s world was contained beneath the surface of Lake Van, Turkey were it was placed in the beginning during the making of our worlds.

During the great flood, Noah’ Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft.). The firmament, in which Adam's Earth was contained -- end up floating in Lake Van, Turkey, the largest Lake in Turkey. It's in the mountains of Ararat and is some 75 miles wide.

We know this because In the New Testament, we were told that their heaven and earth.... “ Whereby that the world THEN WAS -- standing out of the water and in the water -- being overflowed with water, perished” (Greek- totally destroyed) 2Pet 3:5-6

The Ark which was covered, floated out the top of Adam's firmament into the largest Lake in the area (Lake Van) when the windows of their heaven opened and the flood gates of waters rushes in the firmament,.... as the firmament sank and released the Ark into our world , thus, Adam’s world was totally destroyed / dissolved in the Global Flood. If it sounds like Atlantis, so be it.

This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood began (Gen 8:4).

Our God is awesome God.


By the way, thank you for allowing me to further EXPLAIN and CLARIFY my Biblical position of the matter to our other readers of this Message Board. I like repeating myself for strengthening the learning foundation of others.

God bless our Open Minded Audience. May the good Lord share us more wisdom and understanding!
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2019, 10:48:27 pm »



Dear Readers,

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5

The first Heaven or World was in the midst of water and later destroyed in a Flood.
The second Heaven or Word is our present earth or world, which is scheduled to be burned.
The third Heaven or World is the object of the Creation, contains a single city with streets of gold and gates of pearl, and it will never die (Rev.21).

The first heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8
The second heaven was made the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4
The third heaven was is also made on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavenS (Plural) and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Of course, the argument about the "Prehistoric Mankind" being not Biblical is only a STRAW MAN'S argument since, our Scientists are only using the TERM "prehistoric mankind" to describe the people who were here millions of years BEFORE human Civilization arrived / discovered in our "Planet of Apes" (scientist term) some 10k years ago..... Btw, is the word "Trinity" found in the Bible? ... (shaking my head again)

Of course, it is just another blatant attempt by our opposition to misrepresent the continuing discussion and the trust of the posts. I say.... NICE TRY BUT NO CIGAR.

As I have illustrated before, the sons of God are what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind. They were creatures of FLESH, as documented in the context of Gen 6:3 which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric people who were here when Noah arrived.

Humans came to our present Planet from Adam's World which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood. Adam's direct descendant, Noah and his family, arrived on our Earth, some 10k years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to him.

The only people on this present Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) who's been living here for millions of years BEFORE Noah's Ark arrived.  As I have posted before, these prehistoric people had been created and brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on on the 1st Earth or World.

Noah's grandsons (humans), who were born after the Flood, had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they also married and produced offspring with prehistoric people who were already living here -and NOT affected by the global flood that dissolved the first world. You can also read their sexual compatibility in Genesis 6:1-4 since both were made of FLESH.

History agrees and the odd men out are the False ToE, Scoffers of the Last Days and Christian Pretenders/Oppositions who are "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5-7) of the total destruction of the 1st heaven, the world of Adam, and the true Human origins.

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2019, 03:03:30 am »
Quote from: Patrick
You are basing you belief in multi-verses on Hebrews 11:3 because it says worlds? It could be that by the tome Hebrews was written Pythagoras had already introduced satan's globe model. Genesis and all other accounts of creation never mention other globes or worlds or universes. Think about it.

Dear Patrick,

I believe, I have provided you enough Scriptural Prooftexts from the OT and NT... Scientific discoveries, and Historical facts to support my views.... and so far, you have not NOT provided anything contrary other wise... aside from your ASSUMPTION.

Therefore, my postings should stand Uncontested unless you can REFUTE  them... contrary to what I have illustrated....using the Scripture, Science or History to support your view.

In fact, here again below the post that I have DIRECTLY REPLIED to your post/query... that perhaps, yu are trying to avoid? Now, TRY TO REFUTE IT using the Scripture, Science or History... and NOT base it to your ASSUMPTION. Thanks

Dear Patrick,

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

In the Old Testament:

God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13

In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....

.... God also set up a snare / trap included in his prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last Days - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers / Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.

Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:

Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again

In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally destroyed and SPARED NOT the Old Earth:

2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW, will also be dissolved by fire.

Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the below…

Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2019, 02:20:19 am »
Quote from: Patrick
You are basing you belief in multi-verses on Hebrews 11:3 because it says worlds? It could be that by the tome Hebrews was written Pythagoras had already introduced satan's globe model. Genesis and all other accounts of creation never mention other globes or worlds or universes. Think about it.

Dear Patrick,

I believe, I have provided you enough Scriptural Prooftexts from the OT and NT... Scientific discoveries, and Historical facts to support my views.... and so far, you have not NOT provided anything contrary other wise... aside from your ASSUMPTION.

Therefore, my postings should stand Uncontested unless you can REFUTE  them... contrary to what I have illustrated....using the Scripture, Science or History to support your view.

In fact, here again below the post that I have DIRECTLY REPLIED to your post/query... that perhaps, yu are trying to avoid? Now, TRY TO REFUTE IT using the Scripture, Science or History... and NOT base it to your ASSUMPTION. Thanks

Dear Patrick,

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

In the Old Testament:

God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13

In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....

.... God also set up a snare / trap included in his prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last Days - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers / Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.

Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:

Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again

In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally destroyed and SPARED NOT the Old Earth:

2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW, will also be dissolved by fire.

Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the below…

Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

God bless














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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
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Here here !!!
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