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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2019, 04:26:56 am »
Dear Readers,

Science is studying the evolution of the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) INSTEAD of Humans, who are the descendants of Adam., the common ancestor of ALL Humans.

Today's Evols and some Religionist are totally ignorant that Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. Just like humans of the 1st world. they ALSO married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric Mankind) who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived. , some 10-11k years ago, Humans have been scattered over the whole face of our Planet. Gen 11:9

Adam, the 1st human, was formed of the dust on the 3rd Day , as Jesus meet - the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Cosmos, or some 13.7 Billion years ago. Adam was made with a higher intelligence level than ANY creature whose origin was in the water on the 5th Day, because Adam had an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22

Of course, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Adam, the first Human, to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since our Earth is only 4.53 Billion years old, and Adam had been around for Billions of years before then.

Adam's direct descendant, Noah, arrived on our present Earth - after their world was totally destroyed in the flood - some 10-11k years ago.

Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to Noah’s arrival in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat. History agrees and odd man out is the False ToE  and some Religionist which are "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5) of our true Human origins.

You can read of the sexual compatibility of the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) and Adam's descendants - since both are Made of Flesh - Genesis 6:1-4.

God bless.


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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2019, 07:24:27 pm »
Dear Readers,

Science is studying the evolution of the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) INSTEAD of Humans, who are the descendants of Adam., the common ancestor of ALL Humans.

Today's Evols and some Religionist are totally ignorant that Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. Just like humans of the 1st world. they ALSO married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric Mankind) who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived. , some 10-11k years ago, Humans have been scattered over the whole face of our Planet. Gen 11:9

Adam, the 1st human, was formed of the dust on the 3rd Day , as Jesus meet - the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Cosmos, or some 13.7 Billion years ago. Adam was made with a higher intelligence level than ANY creature whose origin was in the water on the 5th Day, because Adam had an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22

Of course, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Adam, the first Human, to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since our Earth is only 4.53 Billion years old, and Adam had been around for Billions of years before then.

Adam's direct descendant, Noah, arrived on our present Earth - after their world was totally destroyed in the flood - some 10-11k years ago.

Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to Noah’s arrival in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat. History agrees and odd man out is the False ToE  and some Religionist which are "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5) of our true Human origins.

You can read of the sexual compatibility of the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) and Adam's descendants - since both are Made of Flesh - Genesis 6:1-4.

God bless.

It is obvious that you do not read the Bible literally. Rather it appears that you make up what you want and when you want to fit your agenda.

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2019, 08:16:38 pm »
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It is obvious that you do not read the Bible literally. Rather it appears that you make up what you want and when you want to fit your agenda.

Blade

Dear Blade,

YEAH RIGHT (shaking my head continually).... Oh well....

IF that's how you feel about it, then, don't be like a cowardice person and REFUTE my position or Biblical Stand with your contrasting views about those  i.e. sons of God as "Fallen Angels" - ref. Gen 6:3 -made of Flesh - forming a union with humans according to your doctrinal faith and teachings -  ..... and provide your support with what you think to be your Scriptural Proof Texts.... instead of whining about it like a cry baby. all the time.

I DARE YOU.

Therefore, your continuing OBJECTION has been REJECTED for lack of evidence and merit.


 
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2019, 09:17:47 pm »
Dear Readers,

The only people on Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind). These prehistoric people - that moveth - had been created and brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on Adam's Earth.

Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, AND EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT MOVETH, which the waters brought forth abundantly[/u][/b], after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

This means that we will find living creatures where ever we find liquid water, in our Cosmos. It is also a Biblical fact that these prehistoric mankind are called sons of God, because, on the 5th Day, they ALSO received THE SAME BLESSING that was also given to Adam and Eve - after they were forgiven of their "original sins" - and both were created in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, on the 6th Day of creation. Gen 5:1-3

Gen 1:22-23 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. v23 And the evening and the morning were the FIFTH DAY.

Noah's grandsons, who were born after the Flood, had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and produced offspring with prehistoric people on the first Earth. It's PROOF of God, since NO man 3k years ago knew the scientific facts.

Please Note that the union b/w the sons of God and the daughters of men did NOT just happened to just "hook up" for one night stand only, perhaps - (just speculating too)... as our  opposing poster here would like you to believe....

BUT, clearly the Scripture is documenting us that they really FORMED a union of MARRIAGE together... contrary to our opposition' doctrinal teachings. Oh well.... (shaking my head again - too many wild imaginations).

Gen 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them WIVES of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO [is] FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Note: the context of the cited Scripture speaks of the union b/w the prehistoric mankind or sons of God and the daughters of men (humans) who were both MADE of FLESH.

As we all know, Angels whether "fallen" or not... are spiritual beings and NOT made of flesh ... and created to have Eternal spiritual life. Therefore, could not have been the one being referred to by the Lord... in the context of  Gen. 6:3... regarding... cutting their life span to 120 years only.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown

The giants were Intellectual giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (Prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men,(Hebrew-Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

As you can see....and also after that is Prophecy that prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived.

It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.

The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat, into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE.... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html

God bless.
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2019, 12:21:20 am »
Dear Readers,

The only people on Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind). These prehistoric people - that moveth - had been created and brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on Adam's Earth.

Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, AND EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT MOVETH, which the waters brought forth abundantly[/u][/b], after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

This means that we will find living creatures where ever we find liquid water, in our Cosmos. It is also a Biblical fact that these prehistoric mankind are called sons of God, because, on the 5th Day, they ALSO received THE SAME BLESSING that was also given to Adam and Eve - after they were forgiven of their "original sins" - and both were created in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, on the 6th Day of creation. Gen 5:1-3

Gen 1:22-23 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. v23 And the evening and the morning were the FIFTH DAY.

Noah's grandsons, who were born after the Flood, had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and produced offspring with prehistoric people on the first Earth. It's PROOF of God, since NO man 3k years ago knew the scientific facts.

Please Note that the union b/w the sons of God and the daughters of men did NOT just happened to just "hook up" for one night stand only, perhaps - (just speculating too)... as our  opposing poster here would like you to believe....

BUT, clearly the Scripture is documenting us that they really FORMED a union of MARRIAGE together... contrary to our opposition' doctrinal teachings. Oh well.... (shaking my head again - too many wild imaginations).

Gen 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them WIVES of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO [is] FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Note: the context of the cited Scripture speaks of the union b/w the prehistoric mankind or sons of God and the daughters of men (humans) who were both MADE of FLESH.

As we all know, Angels whether "fallen" or not... are spiritual beings and NOT made of flesh ... and created to have Eternal spiritual life. Therefore, could not have been the one being referred to by the Lord... in the context of  Gen. 6:3... regarding... cutting their life span to 120 years only.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown

The giants were Intellectual giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (Prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men,(Hebrew-Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

As you can see....and also after that is Prophecy that prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived.

It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.

The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat, into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE.... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html

God bless.


Just thought I would stipulate Prehistoric beings are not biblical. The 'Prehistoric' word takes us back to Darwin's evolution which has been debunk many times.

The different kinds of human skulls that are found today most likely came from the days of Noah(Gen 6), where the angels (sons of GOD) has corrupted everything and everybody (DNA manipulation, etc.) except for Noah and His generations (His wife and three sons).

Of course, these so called prehistoric type people would have died during the flood. Keep in mind that the entire earth had been corrupted and only eight people out of all the population survived.......Only the bugs and fish were allowed to live were not aboard the ARK.

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2019, 03:36:53 am »
Dear Readers,

The only people on Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind). These prehistoric people - that moveth - had been created and brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on Adam's Earth.

Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, AND EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT MOVETH, which the waters brought forth abundantly[/u][/b], after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

This means that we will find living creatures where ever we find liquid water, in our Cosmos. It is also a Biblical fact that these prehistoric mankind are called sons of God, because, on the 5th Day, they ALSO received THE SAME BLESSING that was also given to Adam and Eve - after they were forgiven of their "original sins" - and both were created in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, on the 6th Day of creation. Gen 5:1-3

Gen 1:22-23 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. v23 And the evening and the morning were the FIFTH DAY.

Noah's grandsons, who were born after the Flood, had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and produced offspring with prehistoric people on the first Earth. It's PROOF of God, since NO man 3k years ago knew the scientific facts.

Please Note that the union b/w the sons of God and the daughters of men did NOT just happened to just "hook up" for one night stand only, perhaps - (just speculating too)... as our  opposing poster here would like you to believe....

BUT, clearly the Scripture is documenting us that they really FORMED a union of MARRIAGE together... contrary to our opposition' doctrinal teachings. Oh well.... (shaking my head again - too many wild imaginations).

Gen 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them WIVES of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO [is] FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Note: the context of the cited Scripture speaks of the union b/w the prehistoric mankind or sons of God and the daughters of men (humans) who were both MADE of FLESH.

As we all know, Angels whether "fallen" or not... are spiritual beings and NOT made of flesh ... and created to have Eternal spiritual life. Therefore, could not have been the one being referred to by the Lord... in the context of  Gen. 6:3... regarding... cutting their life span to 120 years only.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown

The giants were Intellectual giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (Prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men,(Hebrew-Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

As you can see....and also after that is Prophecy that prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived.

It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.

The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat, into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE.... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html

God bless.


Just thought I would stipulate Prehistoric beings are not biblical. The 'Prehistoric' word takes us back to Darwin's evolution which has been debunk many times.

The different kinds of human skulls that are found today most likely came from the days of Noah(Gen 6), where the angels (sons of GOD) has corrupted everything and everybody (DNA manipulation, etc.) except for Noah and His generations (His wife and three sons).

Of course, these so called prehistoric type people would have died during the flood. Keep in mind that the entire earth had been corrupted and only eight people out of all the population survived.......Only the bugs and fish were allowed to live were not aboard the ARK.

]Blade


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Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5

The first Heaven or World was in the midst of water and later destroyed in a Flood.
The second Heaven or Word is our present earth or world, which is scheduled to be burned.
The third Heaven or World is the object of the Creation, contains a single city with streets of gold and gates of pearl, and it will never die (Rev.21).

The first heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8
The second heaven was made the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4
The third heaven was is also made on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavenS (Plural) and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Of course, the argument about the "Prehistoric Mankind" being not Biblical is only a STRAW MAN'S argument since, our Scientists are only using the TERM "prehistoric mankind" to describe the people who were here millions of years BEFORE human Civilization arrived / discovered in our "Planet of Apes" (scientist term) some 10k years ago..... Btw, is the word "Trinity" found in the Bible? ... (shaking my head again)

Of course, it is just another blatant attempt by our opposition to misrepresent the continuing discussion and the trust of the posts. I say.... NICE TRY BUT NO CIGAR.

As I have illustrated before, the sons of God are what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind. They were creatures of FLESH, as documented in the context of Gen 6:3 which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric people who were here when Noah arrived.

Humans came to our present Planet from Adam's World which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood. Adam's direct descendant, Noah and his family, arrived on our Earth, some 10k years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to him.

The only people on this present Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) who's been living here for millions of years BEFORE Noah's Ark arrived.  As I have posted before, these prehistoric people had been created and brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on on the 1st Earth or World.

Noah's grandsons (humans), who were born after the Flood, had NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they also married and produced offspring with prehistoric people who were already living here -and NOT affected by the global flood that dissolved the first world. You can also read their sexual compatibility in Genesis 6:1-4 since both were made of FLESH.

History agrees and the odd men out are the False ToE, Scoffers of the Last Days and Christian Pretenders/Oppositions who are "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5-7) of the total destruction of the 1st heaven, the world of Adam, and the true Human origins.

God bless
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
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Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called earth and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared for a new earth. Not Biblical.
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2019, 06:34:00 pm »
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Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5

Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called earth and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared for a new earth. Not Biblical.

Dear Patrick,

As I have posted before.... The world of Adam was an enclosed Biosphere much smaller than our earth, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 .... Adam's Earth was not on a Rocky Planet, like the present Earth, since it was "clean dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks don't dissolve in water. Isa 24:19

Adam’s firmament of heaven or world was placed in the vicinity beneath the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a completely enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from waters below and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.

The first firmament of heaven protected the interior of the Biosphere of Adam from the water which totally surrounded it. When the windows on high were opened and it rained for 40 days and nights, the Biosphere began to sink in the water. After 150 days the water was 22 1/2 feet deep and covered the highest hills of that world.

The first World or Heaven, as God called it, was much smaller than our Earth. The entire land had but 4 Rivers while our Earth has thousands. When the covered Ark rose upon the water which filled the firmament, it passed through the windows onto Lake Van, Turkey where it had been all the time, under the water. The first world was totally destroyed in water and Noah was brought safely to our 2nd Heaven (our present world) , which was made the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4

No Spaceship necessary. It simply passed from one Biosphere to another. Soon, all Christians will leave this world and we will enter the Third Heaven, just as Noah entered our second Heaven. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, thanks to Jesus.

God bless
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2019, 11:44:03 pm »
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Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever. Rev. 22:5

Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called earth and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared for a new earth. Not Biblical.

Dear Patrick,

As I have posted before.... The world of Adam was an enclosed Biosphere much smaller than our earth, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 .... Adam's Earth was not on a Rocky Planet, like the present Earth, since it was "clean dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks don't dissolve in water. Isa 24:19

Adam’s firmament of heaven or world was placed in the vicinity beneath the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a completely enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from waters below and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.

The first firmament of heaven protected the interior of the Biosphere of Adam from the water which totally surrounded it. When the windows on high were opened and it rained for 40 days and nights, the Biosphere began to sink in the water. After 150 days the water was 22 1/2 feet deep and covered the highest hills of that world.

The first World or Heaven, as God called it, was much smaller than our Earth. The entire land had but 4 Rivers while our Earth has thousands. When the covered Ark rose upon the water which filled the firmament, it passed through the windows onto Lake Van, Turkey where it had been all the time, under the water. The first world was totally destroyed in water and Noah was brought safely to our 2nd Heaven (our present world) , which was made the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4

No Spaceship necessary. It simply passed from one Biosphere to another. Soon, all Christians will leave this world and we will enter the Third Heaven, just as Noah entered our second Heaven. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, thanks to Jesus.

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2019, 04:16:41 am »
Dear Patrick,

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

In the Old Testament:

God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13

In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....

.... God also set up a snare / trap included in his prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last Days - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers / Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.

Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:

Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again

In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally destroyed and SPARED NOT the Old Earth:

2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW, will also be dissolved by fire.

Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the below…

Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

God bless
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Isaiah 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2019, 06:47:10 pm »
Dear Patrick,

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

In the Old Testament:

God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13

In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....

.... God also set up a snare / trap included in his prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last Days - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers / Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.

Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:

Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again

In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally destroyed and SPARED NOT the Old Earth:

2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW, will also be dissolved by fire.

Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the below…

Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

God bless

Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in the WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers and are ill informed as you said:

"Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood…

75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?

So Sad

Blade
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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2019, 07:42:56 pm »
Quote from: Blade
Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in the WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers and are ill informed as you said:

"Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood…

75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?

So Sad

Blade

YES, it's really SAD dealing with "WILLINGLY IGNORANT" PERSON LIKE YOU... I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE FOOLISH A PERSON CAN BECOME??? Continue reading below Blade....

1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

Oh well..... for your further education that might help you, Blade.....

Image result for how wide is lake van, turkey

Lake Van. Lake Van, Turkish Van Gölü, lake, largest body of water in Turkey and the second largest in the Middle East. The lake is located in the region of eastern Anatolia near the border of Iran. It covers an area of 1,434 square miles (3,713 square km) and is more than 74 miles (119 km) across at its widest point.

Lake Van | lake, Turkey | Britannica.com

https://www.britannica.com/place/Lake-Van
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Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2019, 08:59:30 pm »
Quote from: Blade
Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in the WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers and are ill informed as you said:

"Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood…

75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?

So Sad

Blade

YES, it's really SAD dealing with "WILLINGLY IGNORANT" PERSON LIKE YOU... I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE FOOLISH A PERSON CAN BECOME??? Continue reading below Blade....

1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

Oh well..... for your further education that might help you, Blade.....

Image result for how wide is lake van, turkey

Lake Van. Lake Van, Turkish Van Gölü, lake, largest body of water in Turkey and the second largest in the Middle East. The lake is located in the region of eastern Anatolia near the border of Iran. It covers an area of 1,434 square miles (3,713 square km) and is more than 74 miles (119 km) across at its widest point.

Lake Van | lake, Turkey | Britannica.com

https://www.britannica.com/place/Lake-Van

Noah's Flood covered the entire world not something the size of a big lake...THE WHOLE WORLD!

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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