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Quote from: Arius on February 03, 2019, 07:04:37 pm

- As a man thinketh -

Just a few years ago I, along with billions of people thought I was up there where the stars are, on a spinning globe as depicted by our science teachers by a paper or plastic globe, and as shown in Disney cartoons and NASA Computer graphic images like we see in science fiction movies.
I believed that NASA were actually exploring other planets up there where the stars are, and was anxious what kind of life they will find on Mars. I was hoping to one day see; "My Favorite Martian".

Oh yeah, and that Jesus and his Apostles were Christians, and that the Roman Catholic Christian Church was a take off from Apostle Peter, and that over time it just became corrupt as Satan took more and more hold of Christs Church.

I accepted all this (and a lot more fantastic stories) through "blind faith" which is what I, and everyone in my old Church thought was how we are to come to Christ, and through listening to Christian Preachers, Teachers, Elders for they were the mouthpiece of God,and that upon my death I will be escorted by winged Angels into Heaven and be with the Lord forever more.

Oh yeah, and having gone to many, many, many funerals in my life of Christians, Atheists, Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, I accepted (or more like never bothered to think about it) that at the end, EVERYONE goes to Heaven, even those who I knew were atheist and didn't believe in God, or His son Jesus Christ. They were all sent off to Heaven to be with all their atheist, Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Mafioso (whatever) loved ones who have passed on before. I have never, ever heard of anyone sent off to become "one with the universe"!?

Adrian Rogers sermons were beautiful, Biblical (for the most part) and really touched my heart every time me and my family listened to him, just like Billy Graham, but now that I woke up to mind boggling conspiracies, I realized that my Christian Religion was the culprit in training me through doctrines, and even MK-ultra to accept everything that TPTB told us, starting with our Teachers, Ministers, Government officials, Presidents etc. What I'm saying is that for the last 1,700 years we have been trained to accept an alternate reality, and there is no better way to describe this than what today our Military Government calls science, and what Religions call God.

Any opinions, comments, suggestions or questions?

Thank you.

you said: "that for the last 1,700, we have been trained" is not exactly right.

Up until the late 1800 and early 1900's the flat earth was real. Until the late 1940 and 1950's did the Military, and NASA (1952) change this. At this time, the schools began teaching the Globe to all children. The Churches did not have much choice but to get on board the 'Globed earth train' after the science came out in support of the GLOBE.   It was either go along with it or be labeled a crazy and have no church.

Again I thank you for your reply my friend

Earliest actual globe used to identify the earth:

The earliest extant terrestrial globe was made in 1492 by Martin Behaim (1459–1537) with help from the painter Georg Glockendon. Behaim was a German mapmaker, navigator, and merchant. Working in Nuremberg, Germany, he called his globe the "Nürnberg Terrestrial Globe." It is now known as the Erdapfel.

Celestial globe was named 天體儀 in Qing Dynasty. The one in Beijing Ancient Observatory was made by Belgian missionary Ferdinand Verbiest (南懷仁) 1673 C.E. Unlike other Chinese celestial globes, it employs 360 degrees rather than the 365.24 degrees (which is a standard in ancient China).

So don't blame them (Churches) too hard as most of them had rather have a congregation and the ability to save some lives for GOD.

You have that backwards brother, .. we "give up our physical lives" for God, not try to save it at any cost. God is not dead for real, He can save a small remnant for himself even with Lucifer/Satan running the world by it's own made up Religious system.

As you can see, it all points to Rome and The Church of Rome, and the Germans.
I mean just look who runs NASA.gov space, also the U.S., .. the UN, .. the World, .. tells us what is science and what is not, ..  it's the Germans.
And who runs the Germans? The Church of Rome, specifically the Jesuits.
The Pope runs and governs the Catholic side of Christianity included ar (atheism, Islam, Luciferianism, and all the other Religions) , and the Germans starting with Luther runs the Protestant side, and they control the main philosophy regarding the Bible, the main idea, which is; how to interpret the God of the Bible and it's the same on both sides; the Catholic and the Protestant, and it is interpreted through Christian Trinity Doctrine!

Who put the first globes into Chine Ming, Qing dynasty?

Ferdinand Verbiest
- Father Ferdinand Verbiest was a Flemish Jesuit missionary in China during the Qing dynasty. He was born in Pittem near Tielt in the County of Flanders. He is known as Nan Huairen in Chinese

Anyone of us who have decide to follow the WORD of GOD, are labeled as crazy, idiots, etc. our Plight is catching on, for there are more of us today than there were at the beginning of the 21st century.

Yes, that's the "idea" that 'The Church' want's to maintain, that Christianity is crazy, and they even pretended for hundreds of years that they were opposed to the "globe idea", yet we can today see it was always the opposite. The plan was always to slowly change peoples understanding of God, and His creation.
By killing God, and putting His son Word back on the cross, they were able to pass of a New Heaven; space, and a New Globe-earth spinning uncontrollably through it. Man, well we are just animals, evolving apes, not so distant cousins of rats. So to exterminate us, "They (that live)" consider it doing us a favor, giving the rest of us rats a little better life, .. a "more sustainable life".