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As A Man Thinketh...
« on: January 25, 2019, 09:48:24 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

A beautiful Sermon by late Dr. Adrian Rogers, whom my wife and I and my two kids listened to every Sunday morning for years. Oh such wonderful words, the voice, the calm demeanor of that good Pastor, it was truly refreshing to listen to him. Sure got the message out clear too, .. we loved that man for his sermons, and as the Bible says: "he shall receive his reward."

But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.

Well ask yourself, what does Gods son Word (akas Jesus our Lord) has to do with the Globe earth, and Big-Banged space, and the video also included scenes of biological evolution??

Who is our Lord Jesus Christ?
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

What was made?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth

Through whom?

through as it says in John 1:3, .. through the Word, the son of God, who later not just visited the earth, but became flesh.

It was the fourth day that God created the sun, moon and all the stars, and put them in a place called heaven. It does not say God suddenly expanded the sun, moon and the stars, but like he did the grass of the field the daay before, He meticulously created it.

While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.
The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being lookwarnm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers responce that starled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were lisstening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this perticular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....


2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!
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Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 11:21:29 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

A beautiful Sermon by late Dr. Adrian Rogers, whom my wife and I and my two kids listened to every Sunday morning for years. Oh such wonderful words, the voice, the calm demeanor of that good Pastor, it was truly refreshing to listen to him. Sure got the message out clear too, .. we loved that man for his sermons, and as the Bible says: "he shall receive his reward."

But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.

Well ask yourself, what does Gods son Word (akas Jesus our Lord) has to do with the Globe earth, and Big-Banged space, and the video also included scenes of biological evolution??

Who is our Lord Jesus Christ?
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

What was made?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth

Through whom?

through as it says in John 1:3, .. through the Word, the son of God, who later not just visited the earth, but became flesh.

It was the fourth day that God created the sun, moon and all the stars, and put them in a place called heaven. It does not say God suddenly expanded the sun, moon and the stars, but like he did the grass of the field the daay before, He meticulously created it.

While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.

Jesus at this time was just a man as He had abdicated His powers. up until the resurrection, Jesus had stated: at 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue. lAt this time, Jesus was still a man for He thought the Kingdom of Heaven (where He would reign and sit on Kings david's throne) would come. He said:mat 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"   To the time of His death, Jesus Christ was just a man.


The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being lookwarnm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers responce that starled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were lisstening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this perticular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....


2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!

GOD made man in his own image. Next time you are out in the sunlight, look to the ground where your shaddow is. That is the image of GOD. Small or large, wide or thin, it is still the image of GOD.

Blessings.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 09:19:21 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

Jesus at this time was just a man as He had abdicated His powers. up until the resurrection, Jesus had stated: at 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Thank you my friend Blade, now please I ask you sincerely if you could show me where we could find that God ever abdicated His power? Or that God could do such a thing?

We know Jacob wrestled with a physical man who was actually God in the flesh, but He remained God, only enjoyed wrestling with Jacob, just as I used to do with my son when he was just a young child. And yes, my four year old won every time just so I could see his little face saying: "Ah win, yeah ah win!"

But the son Word is clear that he left his high abode as the co-creator of Heaven and earth (all things were created through him) and became flesh and dwelt amongst us. John 1:1-

Quote
Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue. lAt this time, Jesus was still a man for He thought the Kingdom of Heaven (where He would reign and sit on Kings david's throne) would come. He said:mat 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"   To the time of His death, Jesus Christ was just a man.[/shadow]

There was never a time when Jesus was confused about anything, and to think that he was God and confused is even a greater error.
The Kingdom of God did come, only in the spiritual sense:

John 11:23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”


We are baptized not unto death, but unto 'life'. In the baptism we give up our flesh, we lay this old body in that baptismal grave, and take on a New body, where this body we consider as dead with Christ, and alive to the spirit, no longer following the works of the flesh, but we live and walk in that Newness of "life" in Gods Kingdom.
Our old bodies are still with us, and are presented as a living sacrifice to God daily by us giving up the desires of this flesh.

This is what the Jews did not understand, nor does Christianity. The Jews wanted the physical New Kingdom, to have a Messiah rule over their enemies, over the whole earth with them.

Quote
The implication of such a belief can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if Jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being look warm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers response that startled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were listening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this particular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....

2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!

GOD made man in his own image. Next time you are out in the sunlight, look to the ground where your shaddow is. That is the image of GOD. Small or large, wide or thin, it is still the image of GOD.

Blessings.

Blade



Umm, .. OK my friend, .. but how does that prove God being Jesus, and dying?
How does my shadow explain being made in Gods image?
How do you explain God dying, because that is what the Christians believe, and what this OP is about that "God died".

Thank you for your kind response, and God bless you.
Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 09:47:16 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

Jesus at this time was just a man as He had abdicated His powers. up until the resurrection, Jesus had stated: at 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Thank you my friend Blade, now please I ask you sincerely if you could show me where we could find that God ever abdicated His power? Or that God could do such a thing?

We know Jacob wrestled with a physical man who was actually God in the flesh, but He remained God, only enjoyed wrestling with Jacob, just as I used to do with my son when he was just a young child. And yes, my four year old won every time just so I could see his little face saying: "Ah win, yeah ah win!"

But the son Word is clear that he left his high abode as the co-creator of Heaven and earth (all things were created through him) and became flesh and dwelt amongst us. John 1:1-

Quote
Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue. lAt this time, Jesus was still a man for He thought the Kingdom of Heaven (where He would reign and sit on Kings david's throne) would come. He said:mat 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"   To the time of His death, Jesus Christ was just a man.[/shadow]

There was never a time when Jesus was confused about anything, and to think that he was God and confused is even a greater error.
The Kingdom of God did come, only in the spiritual sense:

John 11:23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”


We are baptized not unto death, but unto 'life'. In the baptism we give up our flesh, we lay this old body in that baptismal grave, and take on a New body, where this body we consider as dead with Christ, and alive to the spirit, no longer following the works of the flesh, but we live and walk in that Newness of "life" in Gods Kingdom.
Our old bodies are still with us, and are presented as a living sacrifice to God daily by us giving up the desires of this flesh.

This is what the Jews did not understand, nor does Christianity. The Jews wanted the physical New Kingdom, to have a Messiah rule over their enemies, over the whole earth with them.

Quote
The implication of such a belief can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if Jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being look warm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers response that startled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were listening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this particular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....

2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!

GOD made man in his own image. Next time you are out in the sunlight, look to the ground where your shaddow is. That is the image of GOD. Small or large, wide or thin, it is still the image of GOD.

Blessings.

Blade



Umm, .. OK my friend, .. but how does that prove God being Jesus, and dying?
How does my shadow explain being made in Gods image?
How do you explain God dying, because that is what the Christians believe, and what this OP is about that "God died".

Thank you for your kind response, and God bless you.

First the Shaddow is an image of each of us. Being an image, has no facial, color or other features that would identify a individual. We all have God's image. OUR Shadow is a image of GOD himself.

Had you really read the Bible you would know that there are many places where Jesus was not aware of what was going to happen. It shows He actually believed the Kingdom of Heaven (Now a future Millennium) that He was preaching to the Jews would come within their lifetime. At the Cross at the end, He ask His father Why had His Father forsaken  HIM......Had Jesus know He was god, He could have simply walked off or worse.   He did not.. Have you seen the Passion. The beating the Roman soldiers gave him in that film, was a small amount according to scriptures.

But in the end, you interpretation is what you and only you have to answer GOD's judgement with... Be very careful.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 10:47:38 am »
While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.
The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.
I have the impression that we have similar views on religion (I hope that doesn't insult you!)...

The following newsletter by Ben Williams reminds me of some of the things you posted:
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Religions affect languages by inventing new words and redefining old words already in use. They need religious words and phrases to facilitate religious rhetoric. Special, often bizarre, words and phrases are employed to give voice to religious tenets.

In the realm of religion, words and phrases are often hijacked from the common vernacular and given new religious meanings that only work in religious venues.

For example, the term “saved” means to be rescued from a bad, or potentially bad, situation. But the same word in religious realms can mean “qualified to go to heaven.”

Likewise, the word “worships" means to admire and honor someone. But in religious circles the term ‘worship” can mean “attending a church meeting.”

Religions require their own sets of words and phrases to facilitate their religious tenets. So they invent words and redefine words. Words of religion become code-like terms, supportive of their particular theologies. In time those religious code words gain general acceptance and are used in the common language. This affects entire cultures.
(...)

They are the words and phrases reinvented and/or redefined by priests and politicians. The public uses these words without knowing what the words mean. Thus a major part of our common language consists of words that have been changed from their original meanings and forgotten.

Americans, for the most part, have no idea what the words mean when they use them. In most cases people resort to popular terms and believe whatever the priests and politicians tell them the words mean.
https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/download/file.php?id=334

For me the most interesting of Williams' remarks is that “Christ” was really the name for “Mithras” (that was the first time I heard that!).

Christians were persecuted by the Romans like Jesus had predicted, while Christianity became ever more popular among the poor people. Then the Romans found a better way to pacify Christians: in the 4 century AD, Roman Emperor Constantine merged the teaching of Jesus with Judaism and Mithraism. So instead Christians fighting against the rich slavedrivers, they learned to respect the elite.
The Romans even made Jesus say that he supported taxes to the Roman mass murderers (give the emperor what is his) and made Pontius Pilate supposedly try to save Jesus from death (which Jesus then supposedly refused)...
Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue.

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 03:02:51 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

Jesus at this time was just a man as He had abdicated His powers. up until the resurrection, Jesus had stated: at 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Thank you my friend Blade, now please I ask you sincerely if you could show me where we could find that God ever abdicated His power? Or that God could do such a thing?

We know Jacob wrestled with a physical man who was actually God in the flesh, but He remained God, only enjoyed wrestling with Jacob, just as I used to do with my son when he was just a young child. And yes, my four year old won every time just so I could see his little face saying: "Ah win, yeah ah win!"

But the son Word is clear that he left his high abode as the co-creator of Heaven and earth (all things were created through him) and became flesh and dwelt amongst us. John 1:1-

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Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue. lAt this time, Jesus was still a man for He thought the Kingdom of Heaven (where He would reign and sit on Kings david's throne) would come. He said:mat 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"   To the time of His death, Jesus Christ was just a man.[/shadow]

There was never a time when Jesus was confused about anything, and to think that he was God and confused is even a greater error.
The Kingdom of God did come, only in the spiritual sense:

John 11:23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”


We are baptized not unto death, but unto 'life'. In the baptism we give up our flesh, we lay this old body in that baptismal grave, and take on a New body, where this body we consider as dead with Christ, and alive to the spirit, no longer following the works of the flesh, but we live and walk in that Newness of "life" in Gods Kingdom.
Our old bodies are still with us, and are presented as a living sacrifice to God daily by us giving up the desires of this flesh.

This is what the Jews did not understand, nor does Christianity. The Jews wanted the physical New Kingdom, to have a Messiah rule over their enemies, over the whole earth with them.

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The implication of such a belief can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if Jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being look warm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers response that startled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were listening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this particular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....

2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!

GOD made man in his own image. Next time you are out in the sunlight, look to the ground where your shaddow is. That is the image of GOD. Small or large, wide or thin, it is still the image of GOD.

Blessings.

Blade



Umm, .. OK my friend, .. but how does that prove God being Jesus, and dying?
How does my shadow explain being made in Gods image?
How do you explain God dying, because that is what the Christians believe, and what this OP is about that "God died".

Thank you for your kind response, and God bless you.

First the Shaddow is an image of each of us. Being an image, has no facial, color or other features that would identify a individual. We all have God's image. OUR Shadow is a image of GOD himself.

Had you really read the Bible you would know that there are many places where Jesus was not aware of what was going to happen. It shows He actually believed the Kingdom of Heaven (Now a future Millennium) that He was preaching to the Jews would come within their lifetime. At the Cross at the end, He ask His father Why had His Father forsaken  HIM......Had Jesus know He was god, He could have simply walked off or worse.   He did not.. Have you seen the Passion. The beating the Roman soldiers gave him in that film, was a small amount according to scriptures.

But in the end, you interpretation is what you and only you have to answer GOD's judgement with... Be very careful.

Blade


you said: "Thank you my friend Blade, now please I ask you sincerely if you could show me where we could find that God ever abdicated His power? "  Jesus was a Man at the time of Crucifixion before He died yet in Mat 24:44. Notice the "NO MAN" part.

Mat 24:44...."But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." [/color]    Jesus at this time was only a man.

If that is not good enough for you, which I doubt, Mar 13:32..."But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

So in two verses of GOD's WORD which you disagree with, Jesus tells us that as a Man He does not know the time (in Jewish terms) the 2nd coming of the Messiah will happen.

THe other verse tells us the same thing except it adds "Neither the SON"  so as to clarify any misgivings you might have.


Have a good day.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 06:56:47 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

A beautiful Sermon by late Dr. Adrian Rogers, whom my wife and I and my two kids listened to every Sunday morning for years. Oh such wonderful words, the voice, the calm demeanor of that good Pastor, it was truly refreshing to listen to him. Sure got the message out clear too, .. we loved that man for his sermons, and as the Bible says: "he shall receive his reward."

But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.

Well ask yourself, what does Gods son Word (akas Jesus our Lord) has to do with the Globe earth, and Big-Banged space, and the video also included scenes of biological evolution??

Who is our Lord Jesus Christ?
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

What was made?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth

Through whom?

through as it says in John 1:3, .. through the Word, the son of God, who later not just visited the earth, but became flesh.

It was the fourth day that God created the sun, moon and all the stars, and put them in a place called heaven. It does not say God suddenly expanded the sun, moon and the stars, but like he did the grass of the field the daay before, He meticulously created it.

While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.
The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being lookwarnm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers responce that starled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were lisstening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this perticular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....


2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!
Thank you Seve !!! I had a short video clip of this sermon but I didn't have the whole thing.


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"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)

6 minutes - great sermon - it's for you

https://youtu.be/7oURbbvVSuc





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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2019, 07:33:23 pm »
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=362&v=7oURbbvVSuc

A beautiful Sermon by late Dr. Adrian Rogers, whom my wife and I and my two kids listened to every Sunday morning for years. Oh such wonderful words, the voice, the calm demeanor of that good Pastor, it was truly refreshing to listen to him. Sure got the message out clear too, .. we loved that man for his sermons, and as the Bible says: "he shall receive his reward."

But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.

Well ask yourself, what does Gods son Word (akas Jesus our Lord) has to do with the Globe earth, and Big-Banged space, and the video also included scenes of biological evolution??

Who is our Lord Jesus Christ?
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

What was made?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth

Through whom?

through as it says in John 1:3, .. through the Word, the son of God, who later not just visited the earth, but became flesh.

It was the fourth day that God created the sun, moon and all the stars, and put them in a place called heaven. It does not say God suddenly expanded the sun, moon and the stars, but like he did the grass of the field the daay before, He meticulously created it.

While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.
The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

Look, if jesus was God, and both Jesus and God died, then 2/3 of the trinity died that day, for the Bible is clear that God is our Father, not Jesus.
If Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, then they are all Fathers also.
One Christian Minister with his doctorate in Theology tried to explain to me about this paradox, he said: "Yes, God is all three, and all three are then Fathers. Think about it this way:" he continued: "I am a father, and my son is a father, and my grandson will one day be a father. So you see, the Trinity-God is not so hard to understand!"

Well of course I begged to differ, nor would I "agree to disagree", because I told him "that would be being lookwarm, and we know how God feels about us being lookwarnm right?"

But of all the crafty apologetics regarding the Trinity, it was our dear Adrian Rogers responce that starled me and my wife the most. As my family and I were lisstening one Sunday morning to Adrian Rogers "Love Worth Finding" weekly telecast, the announcer asked if before he concluded his service he could briefly explain the Trinity Doctrine; to the younger audience who were listening to his program world wide? This is what he said: (not verbatim, it has been years, and I have failed to find this perticular sermon of his ever since)
"To our younger audience, I would sum up the Trinity is this way: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses, And all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty together again ... this speaks to me!"
With this, the Church audience clapped.

Wake up Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for as a man thinketh, ....


2 Corinthians 4:Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is why Jesus said: "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father" because no one has ever seen Infinite and Eternal "I Am", so God sent His son to reveal Himself to us in "knowledge", to see Him in our minds, feel Him in our hearts. By "faith through evidence with substance", not blindly accepting a man made doctrine that doesn't make any sense.

God bless us all!
Thank you Seve !!! I had a short video clip of this sermon but I didn't have the whole thing.


As A Man Thinketh...
"The Battle for your Mind" (full sermon by Adrian Rodgers)

6 minutes - great sermon - it's for you

https://youtu.be/7oURbbvVSuc





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you said:"But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.
"

Rem, None of this is real. God tells us what the world is and it is not according to NASA.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2019, 11:00:54 pm »
Umm, .. OK my friend, .. but how does that prove God being Jesus, and dying?
How does my shadow explain being made in Gods image?
How do you explain God dying, because that is what the Christians believe, and what this OP is about that "God died".

Thank you for your kind response, and God bless you.

First the Shaddow is an image of each of us. Being an image, has no facial, color or other features that would identify a individual. We all have God's image. OUR Shadow is a image of GOD himself.

Thanks again Blade.

So if I was to create, from the quantum dust particles an image of myself (just the physical part) that wouldn't be an "image"? I understand shadows, but wouldn't a mirror be a better definition of an image, or a sculpture, a painting, a photo?

How is our shadow the image of God himself?

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Had you really read the Bible you would know that there are many places where Jesus was not aware of what was going to happen. It shows He actually believed the Kingdom of Heaven (Now a future Millennium) that He was preaching to the Jews would come within their lifetime. At the Cross at the end, He ask His father Why had His Father forsaken  HIM......Had Jesus know He was god, He could have simply walked off or worse.   He did not.. Have you seen the Passion. The beating the Roman soldiers gave him in that film, was a small amount according to scriptures.

I'm not the one who claims Jesus was God, that would be the Christian Trinity Doctrine, not me.
Jesus understood thing far better than we can, because he was in constant prayer, and kept the commandments to a "t". With such, Gods Spirit is fully on him, instructing him, comforting him and so on. Jesus throughout his ministry said he only speaks of what he heard his Father speak, which is what was written in the Prophets. That's why he kept mentioning: "It was written, .. didn't you read this, and that!?" because the son Word became flesh, and was tempted like we are tempted, he was not some god-man or a sun-god. That's what i was saying.

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But in the end, you interpretation is what you and only you have to answer GOD's judgement with... Be very careful.

Blade [/shadow]

That's right, and this is why I am very careful not to create my own doctrines, but as Jesus taught us to stick with the written Word.
As you claim to be a Believer, then I ask you, remind you as a disciple of Christ of your duty to show me where my interpretation is wrong, especially be liable for judgement? Please?

Thanks again for your response

your friend

Arius.
Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich
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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2019, 01:09:05 am »
While Christianity is lulled to sleep with each wonderful sermon from the Bible, another conspiracy is taking place in their subconscious, just like it shows in this video, the messages are subliminal, and are bombarding us from everywhere. So just as the subject of this video: Proverbs 23:7 "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:" we too have been conditioned to think a certain way. One major fall is that we were made to believe that Jesus was God.
It is not hard to take us to the next step of this Giant Conspiracy, for if Jesus was God, then the Roman Pontius Pilot under the Emperor Tiberius was able to kill God.
The implication of such a beliefe can be eternal to ones soul, eternal damnation that is.

I have the impression that we have similar views on religion (I hope that doesn't insult you!)…

Of course not, have you listened to George Carlin, or the best guy that I have ever heard on Religion was: Christopher Eric Hitchens, who was a British-American author, columnist, essayist, orator, journalist, and social critic. Hitchens was the author, co-author, editor or co-editor of over 30 books, including five collections of essays on culture, politics and literature.

.. whom I so wished to have debated just Once on his show, because the poor man, like his best friend Richard Dawkins were as ignorant about the Bible as they were about the Big-bang and their Evolution theories.
But they were right on with Religion.
My message is NOT against the Bible, and our Creator revealed in the Bible, but hoping to wake up the likes of Dawkins and Hitchens (and you my good man if you think like them) that using one ridiculous Religion (like the Big-Bang Evolution stories) to try to make fun of another Religion like Christianity is, well not as bright as they think they are. And boy them two are, or were proud (Hitchens is dead)
Just because they have a lot of follower, even in the millions, doesn't mean they shouldn't stop and think about their message, because it is out of sheer ignorance.

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The following newsletter by Ben Williams reminds me of some of the things you posted:

You misunderstood me my friend, just as your friend Ben Williams here misunderstood the relationship between Bible-God and the gods in Religion

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Ben Williams - Religions affect languages by inventing new words and redefining old words already in use. They need religious words and phrases to facilitate religious rhetoric. Special, often bizarre, words and phrases are employed to give voice to religious tenets.

In the realm of religion, words and phrases are often hijacked from the common vernacular and given new religious meanings that only work in religious venues.

I agree, especially in the Big-bang Evolution Religions, they rename things "falling" into non existent imaginary thing like "gravity", and make up all kinds of science fiction rhetoric like gravitons, crotons, string cheese theory, leptons, black and white holes, gravitational waves, bosons and a bunch of Star Trek bs. I'm sure you heard the latest, like that NASA discovered Tatooine, or their Star Wars Program, .. Lol. So yeah, I know what he means!

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For example, the term “saved” means to be rescued from a bad, or potentially bad, situation. But the same word in religious realms can mean “qualified to go to heaven.”

Well that doesn't compute. In the Biblical sense, that is exactly what it means.
Look, like in baseball, when the ump yells; "Safe!" we don't take that to mean "it is safe to jump out of a seventh story window", right? I mean I doubt if the umpire seen this dead guy flattened on the cement would yell: "Safe!" right?
We have to keep things in their proper context.
In the context of the Bible according to Jesus teaching, "one saved" means he or she is qualified to go to heaven.
What did he say next?

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Likewise, the word “worships" means to admire and honor someone. But in religious circles the term ‘worship” can mean “attending a church meeting.”

Or when your favorite football team makes a touchdown, I have seen sports fans actually bow down in worship before the Big-screen TV in the Sport Bar. So you see we could also say "worship means a touchdown made by your favorite Football Team". I'm sure you agree that for millions of fans, watching sport has become a Religion, right?

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Religions require their own sets of words and phrases to facilitate their religious tenets. So they invent words and redefine words. Words of religion become code-like terms, supportive of their particular theologies. In time those religious code words gain general acceptance and are used in the common language. This affects entire cultures.
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I mean yeah, .. of course! Just like with sports. Here is some Baseball language that effected entire cultures:

* 6-4-3 Double Play:  Shortstop to second, to first double play.
* Aboard:  Used to refer to “on base,” as in “there are 2 men aboard.”
* Ace:  Term used to refer to a top-notch starting pitcher.
* Alley:  Spaces in the field between the outfielders.
* Around the Horn:  When the fielders throw the ball around from 3rd, to 2nd to 1st during a double play OR when the catcher throws the ball down to third and the fielders toss it around after a strikeout OR when a hitter touches them all after a home run.

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They are the words and phrases reinvented and/or redefined by priests and politicians. The public uses these words without knowing what the words mean. Thus a major part of our common language consists of words that have been changed from their original meanings and forgotten.

Yeah, sure, especially those who are not of the same belief, or Religion. Or like those who hate baseball would never know what those words (baseball slangs) really mean?

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Americans, for the most part, have no idea what the words mean when they use them. In most cases people resort to popular terms and believe whatever the priests and politicians tell them the words mean.
https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/download/file.php?id=334[/quote]

Oh come on, i wouldn't go as far as saying: "Americans, for the most part, have no idea what the words mean when they use them", .. that's silly.

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For me the most interesting of Williams' remarks is that “Christ” was really the name for “Mithras” (that was the first time I heard that!).

.. or, Mithras was created as a False Christ, .. by people that hate baseball, .. I mean hate Jesus and the Bible!? Have you thought of that?
If you want a really good hate-Jesus film documentary, watch the YouTube "Zeitgeist" Hate-on-Jesus and hate-on-the-Bible is everywhere my friend, but most are distorted facts, made up stories written by people who truly hate God. Not because they believe He does not exist, right? No one would go into so much BS if they really didn't believe in God.
My suggestion is that you hear all things out, then investigate. Find out what's really behind their story? You will see that atheism is the biggest hypocritical Religion there is, hands down!

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Christians were persecuted by the Romans like Jesus had predicted, while Christianity became ever more popular among the poor people. Then the Romans found a better way to pacify Christians: in the 4 century AD, Roman Emperor Constantine merged the teaching of Jesus with Judaism and Mithraism. So instead Christians fighting against the rich slavedrivers, they learned to respect the elite.

In reality, if you study the Roman Christian History is that Constantine took over, and copied the books of the Hebrew Prophets, both the OT and the Apostles writings, then took this word "Christian" that the gentiles used to mock the early Disciples of Christ, and added them to their pagan religions and idols. So yes, in the Original RCC-Christian Religion, they did make Jesus as Mithras, and their sun-god which is none other than Lucifer.
I don't think Judaism accepts Jesus yet, but yes, Christianity is a mix a little of all Religions.
There is a big difference between holding and preaching from the Bible and actually believing in it. Would you believe a Used-car Salesman if he swore on a stack of Bibles and quoted scripture?
No, right? You would go and check out the car yourself.

Yes, we as Believers and followers of the Way do respect and honor our rulers, no matter how much they make us suffer, or try to kill me, I mean us.

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The Romans even made Jesus say that he supported taxes to the Roman mass murderers (give the emperor what is his) and made Pontius Pilate supposedly try to save Jesus from death (which Jesus then supposedly refused)...
Therefore the Pharisees sentenced Jesus Christ, their own messiah to Death at the hands of the Romans. Pontius Pilot washed His hands of the matter as He tried to save Jesus from harm. In the end, it was predestined that His soldiers carryout the wishes of the Pharisees over the Jewish synagogue.

For more information on Mithraism: https://3169.createaforum.com/philosophy/the-occult-religions/msg3219/#msg3219

You see my friend, God is God over Satan too, as he is over all the other gods who take life into their own hands and murder men, women and children with chemo therapy, or simply "put elderly down" just like sick or unwanted dogs right after they start collecting Social Security.
As for the Romans and the Pharisees, they were no different than our Military Rulers today, they both caused horrible suffering, and terrible crimes against humanity which soon they will have to face up to.

Seek the Lord my friend, but just so you know that "there are many false Christs out there", .. many denominations yelling: "He's here, .. no, he is over there!"
Read the Bible, if there is anything in there (not what some God hater atheist, or Religious Priest who want's to get you in his church told you) that you don't understand, hey, I'm here, I can maybe explain!? If not me, there is a lot of good info out there, all you have to do is look, seek, knock!

God bless you Firestarter.
Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich
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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2019, 01:26:58 am »


you said:"But if we look at this video closer, one thing specially sticks out, it is the New Age, or this; NASA-science-age. Planets, the Globe earth, beautiful CGI tour of the Star Trek space, with quasars exploding creating black holes and eventually evolving over billions of years galaxies filled with planets which are said to be twirling and expanding along the Fabric of Spacetime, all the while he speaks of none other then Jesus the Lord.
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Rem, None of this is real. God tells us what the world is and it is not according to NASA.

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So do you believe that the earth is a globe spinning up there where the stars are?
Or are you saying nothing is real?

Or do you mean this:

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Thanks.
Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2019, 07:04:37 pm »
- As a man thinketh -

Just a few years ago I, along with billions of people thought I was up there where the stars are, on a spinning globe as depicted by our science teachers by a paper or plastic globe, and as shown in Disney cartoons and NASA Computer graphic images like we see in science fiction movies.
I believed that NASA were actually exploring other planets up there where the stars are, and was anxious what kind of life they will find on Mars. I was hoping to one day see; "My Favorite Martian".

Oh yeah, and that Jesus and his Apostles were Christians, and that the Roman Catholic Christian Church was a take off from Apostle Peter, and that over time it just became corrupt as Satan took more and more hold of Christs Church.

I accepted all this (and a lot more fantastic stories) through "blind faith" which is what I, and everyone in my old Church thought was how we are to come to Christ, and through listening to Christian Preachers, Teachers, Elders for they were the mouthpiece of God,and that upon my death I will be escorted by winged Angels into Heaven and be with the Lord forever more.

Oh yeah, and having gone to many, many, many funerals in my life of Christians, Atheists, Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, I accepted (or more like never bothered to think about it) that at the end, EVERYONE goes to Heaven, even those who I knew were atheist and didn't believe in God, or His son Jesus Christ. They were all sent off to Heaven to be with all their atheist, Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Mafioso (whatever) loved ones who have passed on before. I have never, ever heard of anyone sent off to become "one with the universe"!?

Adrian Rogers sermons were beautiful, Biblical (for the most part) and really touched my heart every time me and my family listened to him, just like Billy Graham, but now that I woke up to mind boggling conspiracies, I realized that my Christian Religion was the culprit in training me through doctrines, and even MK-ultra to accept everything that TPTB told us, starting with our Teachers, Ministers, Government officials, Presidents etc. What I'm saying is that for the last 1,700 years we have been trained to accept an alternate reality, and there is no better way to describe this than what today our Military Government calls science, and what Religions call God.

Any opinions, comments, suggestions or questions?

Thank you.
Galatians 2:20 (NKJV)
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

There is but One Infinite and Eternal God, and since Infinite is borderless, you can't have any other gods besides Him.

God did not die, His son Word did, for you and for me, because - John 3:16

God is not a being, but the Ground of being - Tillich

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Re: As A Man Thinketh...
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2019, 11:22:39 pm »
- As a man thinketh -

Just a few years ago I, along with billions of people thought I was up there where the stars are, on a spinning globe as depicted by our science teachers by a paper or plastic globe, and as shown in Disney cartoons and NASA Computer graphic images like we see in science fiction movies.
I believed that NASA were actually exploring other planets up there where the stars are, and was anxious what kind of life they will find on Mars. I was hoping to one day see; "My Favorite Martian".

Oh yeah, and that Jesus and his Apostles were Christians, and that the Roman Catholic Christian Church was a take off from Apostle Peter, and that over time it just became corrupt as Satan took more and more hold of Christs Church.

I accepted all this (and a lot more fantastic stories) through "blind faith" which is what I, and everyone in my old Church thought was how we are to come to Christ, and through listening to Christian Preachers, Teachers, Elders for they were the mouthpiece of God,and that upon my death I will be escorted by winged Angels into Heaven and be with the Lord forever more.

Oh yeah, and having gone to many, many, many funerals in my life of Christians, Atheists, Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, I accepted (or more like never bothered to think about it) that at the end, EVERYONE goes to Heaven, even those who I knew were atheist and didn't believe in God, or His son Jesus Christ. They were all sent off to Heaven to be with all their atheist, Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Mafioso (whatever) loved ones who have passed on before. I have never, ever heard of anyone sent off to become "one with the universe"!?

Adrian Rogers sermons were beautiful, Biblical (for the most part) and really touched my heart every time me and my family listened to him, just like Billy Graham, but now that I woke up to mind boggling conspiracies, I realized that my Christian Religion was the culprit in training me through doctrines, and even MK-ultra to accept everything that TPTB told us, starting with our Teachers, Ministers, Government officials, Presidents etc. What I'm saying is that for the last 1,700 years we have been trained to accept an alternate reality, and there is no better way to describe this than what today our Military Government calls science, and what Religions call God.

Any opinions, comments, suggestions or questions?

Thank you.

you said: "that for the last 1,700, we have been trained" is not exactly right.

Up until the late 1800 and early 1900's the flat earth was real. Until the late 1940 and 1950's did the Military, and NASA (1952) change this. At this time, the schools began teaching the Globe to all children. The Churches did not have much choice but to get on board the 'Globed earth train' after the science came out in support of the GLOBE.   It was either go along with it or be labeled a crazy and have no church.

So don't blame them (Churches) too hard as most of them had rather have a congregation and the ability to save some lives for GOD.

Anyone of us who have decide to follow the WORD of GOD, are labeled as crazy, idiots, etc. our Plight is catching on, for there are more of us today than there were at the beginning of the 21st century.

Blade

1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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