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Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« on: August 14, 2018, 10:20:48 pm »



I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how early, is the same as murder.

I believe that at conception a new life begins and starts to grow. To knowingly and intentionally end that life or remove that life is murder and should be outlawed worldwide starting in America.


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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 01:11:03 am »
Im Pro-Life | Change My Mind


Change My Mind: Abortion.

In a new segment called "Change My Mind", Steven Crowder takes to the streets to have real conversations with everyday people on hot button issues.


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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 08:54:26 pm »
We all know how a New Life ( a baby) is started...

But DO we really know?

At conception, an egg from the woman is sent down the fallopian tube from one of her two ovaries.  There in the Uterus it sits awaiting its opportunity to be
fertilized by a male spermatozoa.Out of the millions in healthy male only one sperm will be lucky enough to find it way into the egg. When this happens, the eggs outer layer immediately hardens to prevent others from getting in.

The above story is common in all mammals on earth. That does not make it any less of a Miracle from GOD!

The Egg now has 46 pairs of Chromosomes. 23 pair from each parent. These contain all the programs necessary to determine male or female, the color of hair, the color of eye, skin tone, etc. The DNA, the software that determines what each human being becomes was written when Adam and EVE were created.

The Egg begins to split. This splitting divided the egg the first time into two eggs. When the egg splits it copies everything thing contain within. Therefore each each egg has the exact same information as the original egg.

As time goes on, the eggs(s) have duplicated to a point that they begin to separate into categories. These categories include  the skin, the hair, Bones. heart, brain, eyeballs, liver, spleen and all other organs of the Body. Yes, also the reproductive organs as well.  These cells instead of the eggs contain the life's information for THIS HUMAN BEING!

What tells the cell to join a specific category and what decides the category it is to join... Is it in the DNA or is it by the Hand of GOD?

Once the cells have separated, they somehow JOIN each other is an intricate maze of nerves, veins, arteries, capillaries, heart valves, etc.etc. etc.....
 
How do cells  do this.. Is it written into the DNA Code or is it by the Hand of GOD?

 As all cells continue to replicate themselves, the body of the fetus becomes a little more noticeable. In fact, the first trimester, the sex can be determined.

The first trimester, 1-12 weeks, Heart is beating. Is the Baby ALIVE?

The Second-trimester, 13-28 weeks, Baby's sucking motion and their first bowel movement, can hear & swallow:  Is the Baby Alive?

The third-Trimester : 29-40 weeks.- eyes opening and closing, lungs, bones and other organs fully formed,    Is the Baby Alive.....?

At up to 20 weeks, abortions are performed on living babies. If they can hear, their brain is working.Their heart is working, their Brain is working as the  nerviest system  and the Brain controls all the body.
 
Notice that the heart is working in the first trimester where most abortions are performed.

 65,000,000 babies have been killed through abortion since ROE vs WADE.

Even in ancient times, abortion was illegal. As the prosperity of a nation  was dependent on its Birthrate.

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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2018, 11:07:05 am »
We all know how a New Life ( a baby) is started...

But DO we really know?

At conception, an egg from the woman is sent down the fallopian tube from one of her two ovaries.  There in the Uterus it sits awaiting its opportunity to be
fertilized by a male spermatozoa.Out of the millions in healthy male only one sperm will be lucky enough to find it way into the egg. When this happens, the eggs outer layer immediately hardens to prevent others from getting in.

The above story is common in all mammals on earth. That does not make it any less of a Miracle from GOD!

The Egg now has 46 pairs of Chromosomes. 23 pair from each parent. These contain all the programs necessary to determine male or female, the color of hair, the color of eye, skin tone, etc. The DNA, the software that determines what each human being becomes was written when Adam and EVE were created.

The Egg begins to split. This splitting divided the egg the first time into two eggs. When the egg splits it copies everything thing contain within. Therefore each each egg has the exact same information as the original egg.

As time goes on, the eggs(s) have duplicated to a point that they begin to separate into categories. These categories include  the skin, the hair, Bones. heart, brain, eyeballs, liver, spleen and all other organs of the Body. Yes, also the reproductive organs as well.  These cells instead of the eggs contain the life's information for THIS HUMAN BEING!

What tells the cell to join a specific category and what decides the category it is to join... Is it in the DNA or is it by the Hand of GOD?

Once the cells have separated, they somehow JOIN each other is an intricate maze of nerves, veins, arteries, capillaries, heart valves, etc.etc. etc.....
 
How do cells  do this.. Is it written into the DNA Code or is it by the Hand of GOD?

 As all cells continue to replicate themselves, the body of the fetus becomes a little more noticeable. In fact, the first trimester, the sex can be determined.

The first trimester, 1-12 weeks, Heart is beating. Is the Baby ALIVE?

The Second-trimester, 13-28 weeks, Baby's sucking motion and their first bowel movement, can hear & swallow:  Is the Baby Alive?

The third-Trimester : 29-40 weeks.- eyes opening and closing, lungs, bones and other organs fully formed,    Is the Baby Alive.....?

At up to 20 weeks, abortions are performed on living babies. If they can hear, their brain is working.Their heart is working, their Brain is working as the  nerviest system  and the Brain controls all the body.
 
Notice that the heart is working in the first trimester where most abortions are performed.

 65,000,000 babies have been killed through abortion since ROE vs WADE.

Even in ancient times, abortion was illegal. As the prosperity of a nation  was dependent on its Birthrate.

Blade

Well done, Blade! The miracle of birth explained. Add to your description that unlike mammals, humans are a living soul contained within that body, and we see that God and only God could possibly do all that. Again, well done, my man!
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2018, 10:13:48 pm »
For those people who don't know how to respond for the many reasons given by Mothers wanting an abortion. Here is the answer!

Most of the reasons for abortions can be narrowed down to one.

"the fetus is dehumanized".

Its easy to get rid of something that is not human. However, this opens up a counter argument that can be used with any of the reasons presented.

The TODDLER EFFECT!

I am sure you have heard this before:

Complaint: Its my body and I can't be tied down right now. 

Reply: I have a toddler here who has a mother that say she cannot be tied down right now... It is ok to go ahead and let her kill the Toddler?

Complaint: If I keep this baby, I will not be able to feed it or anything?

Reply: I have a Toddler whose mother cannot afford to feed it. It is Ok to let the Mother kill the Toddler to solve this problem?

Complaint: My boyfriend does not want any kids running around.

Reply:  I have a Toddler whose mother has a boyfriend who does not like or want kids around him.  It is OK to let the Mother kill the toddler in this case?

BUT you are talking about a Toddler and I am talking about a unborn Baby that I do not want.
 
I have a Toddler whose mother wants to get rid of it because it is in her opinion not human and she does not want it. It is OK for the MOTHER to Kill the Toddler? YES?

As you can see, this approach humanizes the Baby. Just remember, they will give all kind of excuses, scenarios, causes, etc.

Stay with the Toddler approach and it will work... Humanize that unborn Baby!

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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2018, 01:41:16 am »
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2018, 06:15:05 am »
Doctor Who Did 1,200 Abortions Tells Congress to Ban Them


Dr. Anthony Levatino is a pro-life physician from New Mexico but, before having a change of heart on the issue of abortion he was an OBGYN who also performed abortions.  Levatino did as many as 1,200 abortions some of them after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Then, after his daughter died in a tragic automobile accident, he re-evaluated his position on abortion and stopped doing abortions.  Today, Dr. Levatino told members of a Congressional committee that they should support a bill sponsored by Rep. Trent Franks that would ban abortions nationwide aft 20 weeks of pregnancy.


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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2018, 07:31:34 am »


I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how early, is the same as murder.

As an anti-abortion, pro-child femininist, my argument against abortion is very simple: 

Abortion *intentionally* kills a developing, unborn baby.
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2018, 09:46:04 am »


I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how early, is the same as murder.

As an anti-abortion, pro-child femininist, my argument against abortion is very simple: 

Abortion *intentionally* kills a developing, unborn baby.
Very true and I feel that we need to be vocal and put out the truth as much as possible. People and women in particular have been duped by "society" into thinking they NEED that choice and that freedom to rid themselves, flush their bodies of an unwanted child, a human being with life.

I've never done my part in this travesty called Choice that is murder to be sure. In all that I post covering a wide range of subjects I have always said that even if I only reach one person and lead one person to change, to think and to act and most importantly to be led to Christ, then I have accomplished something, with God's help.
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
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I'm pro-life pro-baby all the way. Abortion is evil.
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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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