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Re: Christianity Today Magazine - October 2019
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2019, 01:30:50 pm »

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/october-web-only/new-testament-celebrity-conversions-kanye-paul-simon.html







The New Testament Teaches Us Not to Second-Guess Surprising Conversions





Long before Kanye, even the most unexpected believers—like Paul himself—point us toward acceptance over suspicion.


Kanye West’s move from saying “Jesus walks” to confessing “Jesus is King” has divided Christians.

Some are overjoyed that such a prominent figure has made public turn to faith. Others are more hesitant, taking the “let’s see if this sticks” approach. Kanye himself expected the latter, singing on his new album, “What have you been hearin’ from the Christians? They’ll be the first one to judge me. Make it feel like nobody love me.”

While some believers want to wait and see whether his faith is genuine, we don’t find much evidence for this strategy in the Scriptures.

The early church in Acts had its share of surprising transformations and celebrity conversions, which stirred a range of reactions. But ultimately, the text points to acceptance over distrust. It also emphasizes the importance of perseverance for these unexpected converts.

These accounts suggest that with Kanye, there is room for the church to rejoice without suspicion, while also pleading for endurance and mentorship in the faith.

Paul’s Sudden Transformation


Paul represents the first surprising conversion in Acts. He was killer of Christians, but then Jesus appeared to him. Understandably, Paul’s conversion is met with some hesitation and fear. Some readers today may take this response as a case for wariness when someone does an about-face. Ananias questions whether he should go to Paul when the Lord comes to him (Acts 9:13-16). The crowd in Damascus is amazed, wondering what has happened (9:21). In Jerusalem, the disciples were afraid and did not believe he was a disciple (9:26).

Each reaction is different based on context. But it helps to consider their concerns in light of the pattern we see throughout Scripture: Continually, God’s people are slow to God’s plan. They need help to catch up to his agenda. They need convincing when God’s plan is out sprinting ahead of them.

In contrast to the skeptics, Barnabas testifies to those in Jerusalem on Paul’s behalf, and they listen to him (9:27). He is gracious and patient with their concerns and explains the change he has seen. (Maybe the “accepters” need to hear this as well and be gracious to “skeptics.”) The crowd moves from doubt to acceptance based on Barnabas’s testimony.

This does not mean texts like the Parable of the Sower are out of the discussion. There is a place for watching for fruit and perseverance. However, waiting is put into the context of grace and hope, not concern and judgment.

Cornelius’s Surprising Transformation
A next surprising conversion comes from Cornelius and his household in Acts 10–11. Once again, we sense a hesitation as the Jerusalem council gathers to debate Cornelius and his household among the earliest accounts of Gentile convers ions (Acts 10-11,15).

However, their story is not example of “let’s see if it sticks.” In fact, Peter and the rest are quite quick to accept that a Gentile centurion, the last person they would expect, has come to the faith. They recognize right away that “the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God” (Acts 10:45-46).

The Spirit has overcome their prejudices. The evidence is clear. The question in the Council is not if Gentiles are saved, but how and in what way they can enter the people of God. The council accepts the fruit of the Spirit.

The council concludes Gentiles don’t have to “act like Jews” to enter. This is an interesting example because the Spirit’s arrival and the evident fruit makes the conversion of Cornelius’s house widely accepted. They see fruit and move forward accordingly. This does not mean they move forward uncritically, but they move forward with open arms.

Simon the Sorcerer, a New Testament Celebrity Convert
There is also a “celebrity conversion” in Acts: Simon the Sorcerer (8:4-25). This passage is notoriously difficult, and interpreters are divided about whether Simon’s faith is genuine to begin with. He “believed and was baptized” (8:13) and followed Phillip, but Peter refused to pray that Simon would receive the Holy Spirit, citing the condition of his heart.

Some are suspicious noting his discipleship to Philip is abnormal, and his fascination with signs and miracles will be his downfall. However, I think it is better to see Luke presenting this initially as a genuine conversion, though time will reveal the truth.

As Acts commentator Eckhard J. Schnabel writes, “There is no hint that Philip baptized Simon prematurely.” Simon follows Philip, like the disciples follow Jesus, and he is amazed at the signs of Philip like the Samaritans (8:6–7). It’s easy to doubt Simon’s conversion as genuine when we as readers already know the end of the story. But Luke makes a point present Simon’s conversion in a positive light before he reveals its spuriousness. This trains his readers to realize not everything is at it seems in kingdom ministry – like with Simon's miracles. Some people might be attracted initially for the wrong reasons.

We learn that Simon ultimately thinks the apostles are magicians like him, and he can purchase and mechanically control the Spirit (8:18-25). Peter responds by pronouncing Old Testament curses upon him, but also calling him to repentance. In verse 24, Simon asks for Peter to pray for him, but again interpreters are divided on whether his request is genuine.

Though I lean toward a more pessimistic view of Simon’s future, Luke is formally silent about the outcome of Simon. This omission does two things. It instructs readers to search for the main point of this text elsewhere. The word of God powerfully spreads to Samaria under the preaching of Philip and through the hands of Peter and John—so much that even Simon, a celebrity sorcerer, recognizes the power that comes through them. In addition, leaving Simon's future open, Luke urges his readers to consider his back and forth—acceptance, fall, repentance?—and see that the work of God is not always clear initially.

In Acts, we see Simon can be accepted, but he must persevere. Peter’s rebuke exists under the umbrella of grace; it is a covenantal curse. A celebrity conversion in that sense is not different from any conversion. Luke doesn’t encourage an initial suspicion over the magician’s new faith, nor should we expect celebrity converts to inevitably fall. Rather, Simon’s conversion is presented as genuine and he goes on to receive baptism—but time (and his money) reveals his heart.

Praying for Perseverance and a Barnabas
We see that conversions in Acts should be viewed initially with joy, acceptance, and baptism. However, Paul will also go around to the churches he planted and “encourage them all to remain true to the Lord with all their hearts” (Acts 11:23), to “continue in the grace of God” (13:43), to “remain true to the faith” (14:22). Paul urges his congregation in Philippi to “hold firmly to the word of life” because then he will be able to boast on the day of the Lord knowing that he “did not run or labor in vain” (Phil 2:16). Paul sends Timothy back to Thessalonica to find out about their faith fearing he had labored in vain (1 Thess. 3:1-5).

Encouraging perseverance is not the same as suspecting disbelief and doubt. Paul writes to these congregations as saints. He tells them they are loved by God. He encourages them by saying he remembers their faith, love, and hope. He says they have a great inheritance waiting for them: We need to hold fast to Christ, but ultimately he is the one who holds fast to us.

As Christians, we should also remember that discipleship and growth takes time (see 1 Corinthians!). No convert can be expected to be shot into maturity immediately. Even when those who come to faith happen to be famous, not every Christian needs to be a leader, public spokesperson, or the next Constantine.

So what do the Scriptures teach us about how we are to respond to Kanye’s turn to Christ? They encourage rejoicing, acceptance, and support. They also call us to pray for his perseverance and for a mentor. To recognize that all of us can labor in vain. We shouldn’t rain on anyone’s Christ parade. We should fall to our knees asking the Lord of the Harvest to continue the work he has begun.

We have reports of gospel musicians and pastors themselves who vouch for Kanye’s faith. My prayer is that Kanye would continue to be mentored, that a Barnabas would come into his life, that he would grow into an oak of righteousness.

God, show him the way for the devil’s trying to break him down. Jesus walks. Even better, Jesus is King.





Patrick Schreiner is assistant professor of New Testament Language and Literature at Western Seminary and the author of Matthew, Disciple and Scribe (Baker Academic, 2019).




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Re: Christianity Today Magazine - October 2019
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2019, 01:35:51 pm »

https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2019/october/one-on-one-with-rob-gallaty-on-addiction-alcohol-and-gods-a.html






One-on-One with Rob Gallaty on Addiction, Alcohol, and God’s Ability to Heal




“If you surrender your life to Christ, he can do more in a moment than anyone can manufacture in a lifetime.”


Ed: This book is different from any other you’ve written. What was the process of writing it like?

Rob: I’ve had the privilege of counseling people wanting to experience sobriety from drugs and alcohol since I surrendered my life to Christ. Most ask me for resources or books to help them experience freedom. Unfortunately, I’ve been hard pressed to find a resource that is both practical and biblical in recovery.


My goal in writing this book was to provide encouragement and hope for anyone personally battling addiction and the family members who are affected. When I was in the midst of my addiction, I was weary of anyone giving me advice, especially someone who didn't understand what I was dealing with. In Recovered, I walk the reader through my journey of taking one step forward and two steps backward.


Also, I showed the role my parents played in my recovery. Even when they were unbelievers, they extended the grace of God to me in their unconditional love and support. My prayer is that parents will read this book and be encouraged to never give up on their children, knowing that God is working even during the worst times.


The lessons I learned along the way have helped me remain sober for the past 17 years. In addition to sprinkling those lessons throughout the book, I’ve also included an entire chapter with a step-by-step process for staying sober.

Ed: Our country has been in a much-publicized opioid crisis for several years. Having walked through this yourself, how do you think this book can speak to this issue? What would you say is a missing part of this conversation nationally?

Rob: More people die from drug overdoses than car crashes in our country. One group analyzed preventable injuries and deaths in 2017 and found the odds of dying by accidental opioid overdose to be 1 in 96, while the odds of a motor vehicle crash are 1 in 103.

Every person knows a friend or family member battling some form of addiction today. The missing element in recovery programs today is Jesus. Sobriety without Christ is a dead-end street. An individual may experience momentary sobriety through treatment, rehab or weekly meetings, but long-term victory is difficult.

Like any sin, we need Christ to set us free from the bondage that shackles us. We are incapable of truly healing ourselves in our own power. This is why so many people turn back to drugs after seasons of sobriety.

Another missing element is discipleship. Even though my addiction was drugs and alcohol, I believe the principles I’ve learned can be applied to any form of addiction. The missing element, which I explain in the book, is a discipleship relationship for accountability and stability.

Ed: How do you counsel addicts and former addicts with whom you speak on a regular basis? What would you want others who haven’t struggled with addiction to know?

Rob: I offer many practical suggestions in the book for experiencing victory over addiction. Two that come to mind are: “Bad company corrupts good character” and “Stop enabling those around you to continue to use drugs.”

Most Christians have life verses. These are verses that summarize their lives, have helped

during a difficult time, or have provided much needed direction. 1 Corinthians 15:33 encapsulated all of those for me: “Bad company corrupts good character.” In other words, sinful people will corrode our values.

This is especially true for those of us with addictive or compulsive personalities. You’ve heard the adage: “You are who you hang with.” If that's the case, then we can determine our future by taking a photograph of our closest friends. I’ve told young people from time to time, “You can’t soar with the eagles if you keep hanging out with a bunch of turkeys.”

If you trace the root of a perpetual drug problem, you can always find an enabler. Normally, it’s the addict’s parent or spouse. In my case, it was my dad. No parent sets out to contribute to the downfall and eventual death of a person. In their minds, they are helping them by paying for bills, providing money for gas, or giving them a place to stay with no strings attached.

Love is the driving force behind the help; however, in cases like these, kindness can do more harm than good. An addict can prey on that kindness to keep getting access to drugs.

During my addiction, I was a master manipulator who would say or do anything to get money for drugs. “Robby, I thought you paid your cell phone bill two weeks ago,” my dad would say. I’d come back with, “Sure, Dad, but this bill is for overcharges. I need it now! I can’t wait.”

Nothing got in the way of feeding the insatiable desire I had to get high. Family members believe they are extending love by helping, but what they are doing is perpetuating the drug addiction. Addicts will never desire help unless they have hit rock bottom. You create a bottom for them by cutting them off, kicking them out, and not paying their bills. I know this sounds harsh, but it’s the only tactic for getting the attention of a person consumed with an addiction.

The reason this works is because addicts will always try to find another avenue to get high. When you cut off all roads, seeking help becomes the only choice. When my parents kicked me out, it saved my life. It was the hardest three months of their lives, and they’ll tell you that. But it was the best thing for me. I knew that I couldn’t fix myself. Eventually I turned to Jesus.

Don’t forget this: If you keep being their savior, Jesus never can be. Give them over to

God and trust him.

Ed: You talk a lot about your family in this book. What message do you have for families of addicts that can provide some hope?

Rob: My parents never gave up on me. Mom did exercise tough love on me, which ultimately saved my life, but she did it because she loved me. Even though she cut off physical contact with me, she never disconnected from God. She prayed fervently for God to bring me to a place of surrender to him. God can turn any situation around in a moment, no matter how far gone your family member or friend may be.

Commit to praying for God to do something miraculous in their lives and yours. Remember, God uses everything to bring us closer to him. This present situation is God’s instrument to bring you into greater intimacy with him.

Ed: How do you hope this book equips pastors, small group leaders and church leaders to better minister to those struggling with addiction?

Rob: I tried to be as authentic as possible in sharing the struggles I experienced in my addiction. My hope is that pastors and leaders who have never struggled with addiction will be able to better understand how people struggle to experience sobriety.

I wrote it as a tool to be given out to people struggling with an addiction of any kind. I share the gospel on three different occasions in the book. Prayerfully, God will use it to bring people closer to himself.

Ed: What do you hope readers learn from it? How do you hope they are changed from reading it?

Rob: Addiction is synonymous with hopelessness. Family members fighting for the lives of their loved ones know this well. I’m praying God will encourage those in an addiction now. I always tell people who come to visit me for help: “If there is breath, there is hope.”

The final chapter of your life is yet to be written. If you surrender your life to Christ, he can do more in a moment than anyone can manufacture in a lifetime. While you may have wasted away years of your life, don’t let your past discourage you from moving forward. God allows trials in our lives to refine us, not define us. Trust in Christ and let him lead the way.





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Re: Christianity Today Magazine - October 2019
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2019, 01:44:36 pm »








Lord, We Don’t Know What We Should Be Asking of You




For anyone who struggles to pray, Pete Greig’s new book offers an easy and approachable guide.


When I was six, I started praying in earnest for a snowspeeder. Every night after my parents said goodnight, I knelt beside the bed and prayed. A snowspeeder is a vehicle from the Star Wars movies, specifically The Empire Strikes Back. Imagine a sort of wingless jet with two laser cannons on the front and another on the back. Each night I explained in great detail why I wanted this machine and asked God to provide it. In the mornings I leapt out of bed and raced to my bedroom window, expecting to see a spaceship on the lawn.

Christmas morning I awoke to find a toy version of a snowspeeder under the tree, and I remember thinking either I had not been sufficiently clear with the Lord or that he was playing a genie trick on me because I hadn’t been specific enough. I wasn’t doing it right. Prayer worked, sort of, but it didn’t get me what I wanted. Not really.

I’ve been a minister for 20 years now, and I still find myself with some childlike apprehension about prayer. God has spoken to me often in prayer, has provided for my family, has done amazing, unexpected things that were more than I hoped for or imagined. But there were also times when I prayed and nothing came from it. Or I went to a corporate prayer time and experienced only immense boredom. Or I offered up deep, important prayers, especially prayers for the healing of loved ones, which were met with silence. And sometimes, like it or not, the thought of prayer fills me only with feelings of obligation and guilt.

So it was with some trepidation that I picked up Pete Greig’s How to Pray: A Simple Guide for Normal People. I’ve read a lot of books on prayer. Some are deep and insightful and require a great deal of work to fully understand, and others are so simple that it feels like a waste of time to flip through them. There are always a few that help grow a heart for prayer in my own life, and those are the ones I like best.

Something to Connect with
Pete Greig is the founder of 24-7 Prayer, which is, according to the organization’s website, “an international, interdenominational movement of prayer, mission and justice.” It’s a “non-stop prayer meeting that has continued for every minute of this century so far, in over half the countries on earth.” Learning this did not make me feel better about the book. I suspected I was about to read something by someone at least 97 percent on the way to sainthood, and that the book might very well be a series of chapters telling me I should be more committed to prayer.

I am glad to say that I was wrong. In fact, this is the best, most astonishing, most powerful, most effective and beautiful book on prayer I have ever read. What’s more, I found myself praying as I read each chapter of the book, and my desire to pray grew stronger with each turn of the page.

I was caught completely off guard when Greig opened by summarizing the entire book in two and a half pages. In those couple pages he tells us that this book will be a detailed exploration of the Lord’s Prayer, and that it will teach us “How to P.R.A.Y.” (Pause, Rejoice, Ask, Yield).

Now if that sounds contrived or overly systematic for you, fear not. Many chapters have structured points like these to help you pray, but there are also a great many stories, poetic reflections, quotes, explanations of Scripture, and personal anecdotes. Each chapter is written in such a way that whatever your preferred learning style, there’s something to connect with. Each chapter also ends with a selection of tools to help you learn more about prayer: an online course called the Prayer Course, a reminder of concrete prayer practices that have been covered in the chapter, and suggestions of books you can read to learn more about the aspects of prayer covered in that chapter.

Here’s an example of what this looks like.

A friend of mine passed away the night before I read chapter 7. She had passed after an unexpected medical issue. She had lingered for several days as the doctors did surgeries to no avail. She was well loved by her family, her church, and her many friends, and we were all praying desperately for her recovery. But God did not answer those prayers in the way we desired.

As Greig started his chapter covering the phrase “your will be done” from the Lord’s Prayer, I didn’t expect it to cut its way through my grief and into my life. Greig uses “your will be done” as a springboard to discuss unanswered prayer. How do we deal with the disappointment when God doesn’t answer prayer in the way we desire, even when we’re praying for good things?

One thing I appreciate about this book is Grieg’s easy, approachable style. After the loss of my friend I didn’t need a dry theologian’s perspective on loss and grieving and the absence of God in hard times. I needed what Grieg supplied: a friend who has been through disappointment and grief himself, a fellow traveler on the journey toward Christ.

Greig starts by sharing multiple stories of loss in his own life. He is honest about his own experience of those things. He says things like, “The Bible is more honest about unanswered prayer than the church.” Then he shows us through the stories of Scripture that this is true. I appreciated that he never made it look like he was some super Christian, but instead just an ordinary person following Christ. In fact, he shares the painful story that months after starting the 24-7 Prayer movement, his wife was diagnosed with a brain tumor. “In a matter of days,” he writes, “I went from believing that my prayers could save the entire planet to doubting that they could save my wife.” This level of honesty put me at ease—here was someone who had experienced loss and grief like my own.

Greig spends much of the chapter talking about the ways Jesus dealt with disappointment and grief in prayer, as well as the reasons God may choose not to answer our prayers in the ways we think he should. He uses Scripture to point out Jesus’ vulnerability, how he pushed deeper into prayer when in anguish, and that he held onto God’s love, held out for his power, and yet was honest with God in the midst of his troubles. Toward the end of the chapter he gives us a specific practice: the prayer of relinquishment, in which we ask for God’s will alone to prevail. He explains how a prayer of relinquishment works and how to pray that way, before giving us the practical tools of the online video and a couple book recommendations.

A Book for Anyone
At the end of the chapter I felt a profound sense of my connectedness to Christ as well as to Greig and all those who have experienced suffering and loss despite our prayers to be spared. Between each chapter he has a short two-page story about a hero of prayer—in this instance Joni Eareckson Tada. And there was an example of a prayer of relinquishment, this one from the 18th-century French archbishop François Fénelon, and I found myself praying along while reading: Lord, I do not know what I should be asking of you. You are the only One who knows what I need… All I can do is present myself to you.

Which, more than anything, sums up my experience of this book. I found myself praying along while reading. I have a short list of books I love about prayer. How to Pray is an instant spiritual classic. Accessible for someone new to spiritual things, but deep enough for someone who has been following Jesus for decades, this is truly a book for anyone.

How to Pray is a book with heart, deep wisdom, generosity for where you are on the journey, practical tools and tips, and a gentle way of increasing the reader’s passion for prayer. Highly, highly recommended.




Matt Mikalatos is the author of several books, including, most recently, Good News for a Change: How to Talk to Anyone about Jesus (NavPress).






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Lord, We Don’t Know What We Should Be Asking of You




For anyone who struggles to pray, Pete Greig’s new book offers an easy and approachable guide.


When I was six, I started praying in earnest for a snowspeeder. Every night after my parents said goodnight, I knelt beside the bed and prayed. A snowspeeder is a vehicle from the Star Wars movies, specifically The Empire Strikes Back. Imagine a sort of wingless jet with two laser cannons on the front and another on the back. Each night I explained in great detail why I wanted this machine and asked God to provide it. In the mornings I leapt out of bed and raced to my bedroom window, expecting to see a spaceship on the lawn.

Christmas morning I awoke to find a toy version of a snowspeeder under the tree, and I remember thinking either I had not been sufficiently clear with the Lord or that he was playing a genie trick on me because I hadn’t been specific enough. I wasn’t doing it right. Prayer worked, sort of, but it didn’t get me what I wanted. Not really.

I’ve been a minister for 20 years now, and I still find myself with some childlike apprehension about prayer. God has spoken to me often in prayer, has provided for my family, has done amazing, unexpected things that were more than I hoped for or imagined. But there were also times when I prayed and nothing came from it. Or I went to a corporate prayer time and experienced only immense boredom. Or I offered up deep, important prayers, especially prayers for the healing of loved ones, which were met with silence. And sometimes, like it or not, the thought of prayer fills me only with feelings of obligation and guilt.

So it was with some trepidation that I picked up Pete Greig’s How to Pray: A Simple Guide for Normal People. I’ve read a lot of books on prayer. Some are deep and insightful and require a great deal of work to fully understand, and others are so simple that it feels like a waste of time to flip through them. There are always a few that help grow a heart for prayer in my own life, and those are the ones I like best.

Something to Connect with
Pete Greig is the founder of 24-7 Prayer, which is, according to the organization’s website, “an international, interdenominational movement of prayer, mission and justice.” It’s a “non-stop prayer meeting that has continued for every minute of this century so far, in over half the countries on earth.” Learning this did not make me feel better about the book. I suspected I was about to read something by someone at least 97 percent on the way to sainthood, and that the book might very well be a series of chapters telling me I should be more committed to prayer.

I am glad to say that I was wrong. In fact, this is the best, most astonishing, most powerful, most effective and beautiful book on prayer I have ever read. What’s more, I found myself praying as I read each chapter of the book, and my desire to pray grew stronger with each turn of the page.

I was caught completely off guard when Greig opened by summarizing the entire book in two and a half pages. In those couple pages he tells us that this book will be a detailed exploration of the Lord’s Prayer, and that it will teach us “How to P.R.A.Y.” (Pause, Rejoice, Ask, Yield).

Now if that sounds contrived or overly systematic for you, fear not. Many chapters have structured points like these to help you pray, but there are also a great many stories, poetic reflections, quotes, explanations of Scripture, and personal anecdotes. Each chapter is written in such a way that whatever your preferred learning style, there’s something to connect with. Each chapter also ends with a selection of tools to help you learn more about prayer: an online course called the Prayer Course, a reminder of concrete prayer practices that have been covered in the chapter, and suggestions of books you can read to learn more about the aspects of prayer covered in that chapter.

Here’s an example of what this looks like.

A friend of mine passed away the night before I read chapter 7. She had passed after an unexpected medical issue. She had lingered for several days as the doctors did surgeries to no avail. She was well loved by her family, her church, and her many friends, and we were all praying desperately for her recovery. But God did not answer those prayers in the way we desired.

As Greig started his chapter covering the phrase “your will be done” from the Lord’s Prayer, I didn’t expect it to cut its way through my grief and into my life. Greig uses “your will be done” as a springboard to discuss unanswered prayer. How do we deal with the disappointment when God doesn’t answer prayer in the way we desire, even when we’re praying for good things?

One thing I appreciate about this book is Grieg’s easy, approachable style. After the loss of my friend I didn’t need a dry theologian’s perspective on loss and grieving and the absence of God in hard times. I needed what Grieg supplied: a friend who has been through disappointment and grief himself, a fellow traveler on the journey toward Christ.

Greig starts by sharing multiple stories of loss in his own life. He is honest about his own experience of those things. He says things like, “The Bible is more honest about unanswered prayer than the church.” Then he shows us through the stories of Scripture that this is true. I appreciated that he never made it look like he was some super Christian, but instead just an ordinary person following Christ. In fact, he shares the painful story that months after starting the 24-7 Prayer movement, his wife was diagnosed with a brain tumor. “In a matter of days,” he writes, “I went from believing that my prayers could save the entire planet to doubting that they could save my wife.” This level of honesty put me at ease—here was someone who had experienced loss and grief like my own.

Greig spends much of the chapter talking about the ways Jesus dealt with disappointment and grief in prayer, as well as the reasons God may choose not to answer our prayers in the ways we think he should. He uses Scripture to point out Jesus’ vulnerability, how he pushed deeper into prayer when in anguish, and that he held onto God’s love, held out for his power, and yet was honest with God in the midst of his troubles. Toward the end of the chapter he gives us a specific practice: the prayer of relinquishment, in which we ask for God’s will alone to prevail. He explains how a prayer of relinquishment works and how to pray that way, before giving us the practical tools of the online video and a couple book recommendations.

A Book for Anyone
At the end of the chapter I felt a profound sense of my connectedness to Christ as well as to Greig and all those who have experienced suffering and loss despite our prayers to be spared. Between each chapter he has a short two-page story about a hero of prayer—in this instance Joni Eareckson Tada. And there was an example of a prayer of relinquishment, this one from the 18th-century French archbishop François Fénelon, and I found myself praying along while reading: Lord, I do not know what I should be asking of you. You are the only One who knows what I need… All I can do is present myself to you.

Which, more than anything, sums up my experience of this book. I found myself praying along while reading. I have a short list of books I love about prayer. How to Pray is an instant spiritual classic. Accessible for someone new to spiritual things, but deep enough for someone who has been following Jesus for decades, this is truly a book for anyone.

How to Pray is a book with heart, deep wisdom, generosity for where you are on the journey, practical tools and tips, and a gentle way of increasing the reader’s passion for prayer. Highly, highly recommended.




Matt Mikalatos is the author of several books, including, most recently, Good News for a Change: How to Talk to Anyone about Jesus (NavPress).






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Re: Christianity Today Magazine - October 2019
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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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