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Yes, it is Blasphemy to even contemplate that mankind can be on some plane of level with Jesus Christ. It is the same arrogance that Lucifer presented before His fall.

How can the time when we were created put us on an equal plane with Christ, our God? He is the creator, we the created...there is no way that the timing of when He created us can ever make us Godly and on an equal plane with Him! Your logic is broken... It seems to me that being in HIS image is much more of an equality with Him than the timing of our creation.

Quote from: Ted T. on August 16, 2020, 11:03:01 am

Once again you have proven that your animosity to PCE lends itself to knee jerk reactions caused by a (wilful? culpable??) misinterpretation of what I wrote. My quote,

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"This is a huge step up from the Calvinist position that there was no reason for our election (it was UNconditional) except HE liked the election of only some and not others."

clearly refers to Calvinists as knowing what GOD likes or dislikes ! so you should be joining me in castigatening them, not basing a rejection of my work on such a misconception that I endorse Calvinism!

Now, the essence of what I wrote was that your assertion that there was no reason given for our predestination is a step up from the Calvinist assertion that the predestination of some to hell before their creation pleased HIM. If you want to argue that 'no reason' is NOT better than 'HE liked it to be that way', be my guest!

I do not even pretend to think that I know what He does, knows , etc.   All I can do is give you His words over those of the book, manual you get your PCE Manual from.

Blade I just pointed out your misrepresentations of me and my belief. You have ignored this.

You may explain how you came to misunderstand PCE or you may try to develop how your interpretation fits my PCE but to ignore such accusations is bad form on every debate forum, especially a forum of Christian pov, as it makes the misrepresentations a slander and shows a lack of moral commitment.

Quote from: Ted T. on August 16, 2020, 11:03:01 am

...such as: our predestination was based upon our free will choice to put our faith in HIM as telling us the truth OR as rejecting to put our faith in HIM as a liar and a false god) must be considered.

Don't agree with this...All we really have to do is have faith in Him according to those very scriptures you disregard.  Blade

To contrast faith in Christ for our salvation with the reason we were chosen to be elect or to be passed over for election is really illogical.

And to accuse me of disregarding any scripture without any proof or reference is another slander. Hard to stop when you are on a roll, eh...