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Ted, at times I have arrived at the conclusion that I never asked to be here or to be born. People say that and believe that and what you are saying is that we did decide before creation, even as we will not remember that time or that decision.

I did indeed miss this post from you...


I believe we made a decision to put our faith in YHWH and HIS claims 1. to be the truth from our creator GOD, becoming elect, OR 2. as lies from a false god, being condemned to the outer darkness from that instant.


 I'm also convinced that we knew that this would end with the judgment of all those who rejected HIM as their GOD but any elect who chose to rebel against HIS commands were promised salvation by the work of the Son. Election was indeed a promise of salvation if it was ever needed.


But I am not convinced that we knew that the physical universe would be created nor that all sinners would become humans Matt 13:36-39, and the sinful elect would have to live with the reprobate tares until we were fully sanctified, ie, made holy, ie made to be heaven ready: Heb 12:5-11.


If not, no one asked to be born human and some elect may have been dismayed when they were flung down to Sheol in the centre of the earth to await their turn to be sown, planted, into mankind.

PS, do you see the small print in the last line? I've had to fix 3 or 4 other places by changing the font size but sometimes, as here, it will not take. Neither are the 'remove formatting' and 'toggle view' buttons working for me, sigh.

Don't hesitate to ask again if I missed something...